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Wherever the football was whenever his knee/butt/whatever hit. I'd have to look at the play to be sure, but if his leading foot was the only thing at the 36, then it sounds like they were a little generous on that one as well.

Spot of the ball is correct. The rule:

I'd gladly take that bet, because a report was filed. (Witness Scott Berchtold calling it a "police matter.") BuffNews may not have all the reporters they used to, but I'll guarantee that there's still someone working the cops-and-courts desk.

Just a reminder that people can disagree about this topic without being disagreeable. One guy has already crossed that line, and won't be coming back for a while. Hate to see anyone else join him.

He probably would've gotten an unsportsmanlike-conduct penalty for daring to question the mighty Patriot dynasty. Kidding aside, it wouldn't surprise me a bit to find out that BB said something to the LJ, just like baseball managers "working" the ump or college basketball coaches taking a deliberate T to get the next few calls in their favor.

Don't know about his plans for Friday, but unfortunately for us, the Bills are the one AFC East team Tim won't be covering this weekend. Pats-Jets intradivision battle Sunday, Fins-Colts on Monday night.

Actually, I checked the rulebook on this, and they're only allowed to be a FOOT behind the line: I have to admit I can't ever remember seeing it called more than once in the same game, though, and someone made the point earlier that the officials ignore it most of the time. Makes me wonder if one Mr. Belichick pointed it out to the line judge, making it a point of emphasis.

It was in there: "This would be the first time in local history that a Pacific coast team played in Buffalo ..." So those Bucs were essentially one of the barnstorming nomads of the late '20s, Ken? Nice work, as always.

What he said.

Graham weighs in: Isolated stupidity shouldn't paint all Bills fans

Valid point.

Must have missed this: TSW Terms of Service

Depends. Are fans of the rest of the league's teams painting obscenities in their players' front yards? If not, maybe I do want to be a little more like them.

"Over-reaction"? Bull.

Well said.

As he continues to check down, teams with better secondaries than New England's -- which gave up the second-most touchdown passes in the league last year, costing all four top CBs their roster spots during the offseason -- will start to play more press coverage on the Bills WRs. Let's hope Evans and Owens can take advantage of that with some double moves; otherwise, this offense will begin to resemble last year's ... and nobody here wants that.

Ooh, "science."

But if you look at the play-by-play stats provided by NFL GSIS, he DIDN'T go downfield on every long passing gain. Not even close. For your viewing pleasure, here's a list of every completion for more than 10 yards: 1-10-NE 33 (4:03) 5-T.Edwards pass short left to 22-F.Jackson pushed ob at NE 12 for 21 yards (23-L.Bodden). 1st Down Passing: BUF Passing Yards: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), 21 yards Pass Length, Completion: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), -3 yards Pass Reception Yards: BUF 22 (F.Jackson), 21 yards Pass Target: BUF 22 (F.Jackson) Yardage Gained After the Catch: BUF 22 (F.Jackson), 24 yards Solo Tackle: NE 23 (L.Bodden) 2-9-NE 11 (3:03) (No Huddle) 5-T.Edwards pass short left to 89-S.Nelson for 11 yards, TOUCHDOWN. 1st Down Passing: BUF Passing Yards, TD: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), 11 yards Pass Length, Completion: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), 1 yards Pass Reception Yards, TD: BUF 89 (S.Nelson), 11 yards Pass Target: BUF 89 (S.Nelson) Yardage Gained After the Catch: BUF 89 (S.Nelson), 10 yards 2-9-BUF 21 (5:55) (No Huddle) 5-T.Edwards pass short right to 22-F.Jackson pushed ob at BUF 37 for 16 yards (59-G.Guyton). 1st Down Passing: BUF Passing Yards: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), 16 yards Pass Length, Completion: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), 2 yards Pass Reception Yards: BUF 22 (F.Jackson), 16 yards Pass Target: BUF 22 (F.Jackson) Yardage Gained After the Catch: BUF 22 (F.Jackson), 14 yards Solo Tackle: NE 59 (G.Guyton) 2-8-BUF 29 (:40) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short right to 83-L.Evans to BUF 39 for 10 yards (29-S.Springs, 31-B.Meriweather). 1st Down Passing: BUF Passing Yards: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), 10 yards Pass Length, Completion: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), 10 yards Pass Reception Yards: BUF 83 (L.Evans), 10 yards Pass Target: BUF 83 (L.Evans) Yardage Gained After the Catch: BUF 83 (L.Evans), 0 yards Assisted Tackle: NE 29 (S.Springs) Tackle Assist: NE 31 (B.Meriweather) 2-9-BUF 21 (5:55) (No Huddle) 5-T.Edwards pass short right to 22-F.Jackson pushed ob at BUF 37 for 16 yards (59-G.Guyton). 1st Down Passing: BUF Passing Yards: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), 16 yards Pass Length, Completion: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), 2 yards Pass Reception Yards: BUF 22 (F.Jackson), 16 yards Pass Target: BUF 22 (F.Jackson) Yardage Gained After the Catch: BUF 22 (F.Jackson), 14 yards Solo Tackle: NE 59 (G.Guyton) 1-10-BUF 26 (14:32) 5-T.Edwards pass short right to 22-F.Jackson to BUF 41 for 15 yards (24-J.Wilhite, 31-B.Meriweather). 1st Down Passing: BUF Passing Yards: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), 15 yards Pass Length, Completion: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), -2 yards Pass Reception Yards: BUF 22 (F.Jackson), 15 yards Pass Target: BUF 22 (F.Jackson) Yardage Gained After the Catch: BUF 22 (F.Jackson), 17 yards Assisted Tackle: NE 24 (J.Wilhite) Tackle Assist: NE 31 (B.Meriweather) 2-15-BUF 36 (13:50) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short right to 83-L.Evans to BUF 48 for 12 yards (24-J.Wilhite). Passing Yards: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), 12 yards Pass Length, Completion: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), 10 yards Pass Reception Yards: BUF 83 (L.Evans), 12 yards Pass Target: BUF 83 (L.Evans) Yardage Gained After the Catch: BUF 83 (L.Evans), 2 yards Solo Tackle: NE 24 (J.Wilhite) 3-1-BUF 45 (4:53) (No Huddle) 5-T.Edwards pass short middle to 81-T.Owens pushed ob at NE 28 for 27 yards (29-S.Springs). BUF 81-Owens 184th consecutive game with a reception. BUF 81-Owens 952 career receptions, 6th best all-time. 1st Down Passing: BUF 3rd Down Attempt Converted: BUF Passing Yards: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), 27 yards Pass Length, Completion: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), 6 yards Pass Reception Yards: BUF 81 (T.Owens), 27 yards Pass Target: BUF 81 (T.Owens) Yardage Gained After the Catch: BUF 81 (T.Owens), 21 yards Solo Tackle: NE 29 (S.Springs) 3-20-NE 38 (3:19) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short left to 80-D.Schouman to NE 22 for 16 yards (31-B.Meriweather, 30-B.McGowan). 3rd Down Attempt Failed: BUF Passing Yards: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), 16 yards Pass Length, Completion: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), 7 yards Pass Reception Yards: BUF 80 (D.Schouman), 16 yards Pass Target: BUF 80 (D.Schouman) Yardage Gained After the Catch: BUF 80 (D.Schouman), 9 yards Assisted Tackle: NE 31 (B.Meriweather) Tackle Assist: NE 30 (B.McGowan) 3-15-BUF 33 (10:29) 5-T.Edwards pass short right to 22-F.Jackson pushed ob at NE 49 for 18 yards (36-J.Sanders). 1st Down Passing: BUF 3rd Down Attempt Converted: BUF Passing Yards: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), 18 yards Pass Length, Completion: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), -3 yards Pass Reception Yards: BUF 22 (F.Jackson), 18 yards Pass Target: BUF 22 (F.Jackson) Yardage Gained After the Catch: BUF 22 (F.Jackson), 21 yards Solo Tackle: NE 36 (J.Sanders) 2-10-NE 10 (5:38) 5-T.Edwards pass short left to 22-F.Jackson for 10 yards, TOUCHDOWN. 1st Down Passing: BUF Passing Yards, TD: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), 10 yards Pass Length, Completion: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), -6 yards Pass Reception Yards, TD: BUF 22 (F.Jackson), 10 yards Pass Target: BUF 22 (F.Jackson) Yardage Gained After the Catch: BUF 22 (F.Jackson), 16 yards 1-10-BUF 21 (:45) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass deep middle to 81-T.Owens to BUF 40 for 19 yards (31-B.Meriweather, 24-J.Wilhite). 1st Down Passing: BUF Passing Yards: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), 19 yards Pass Length, Completion: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), 19 yards Pass Reception Yards: BUF 81 (T.Owens), 19 yards Pass Target: BUF 81 (T.Owens) Yardage Gained After the Catch: BUF 81 (T.Owens), 0 yards Assisted Tackle: NE 31 (B.Meriweather) Tackle Assist: NE 24 (J.Wilhite) 4-20-BUF 30 (:01) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass deep right to 80-D.Schouman to NE 47 for 23 yards. Lateral to 11-R.Parrish to NE 43 for 4 yards. Lateral to 22-F.Jackson to NE 34 for 9 yards. FUMBLES, recovered by BUF-11-R.Parrish at NE 40. 11-R.Parrish to NE 44 for -4 yards (23-L.Bodden). 1st Down Passing: BUF 4th Down Attempt Converted: BUF Passing Yards: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), 30 yards Pass Length, Completion: BUF 5 (T.Edwards), 18 yards Pass Reception Yards: BUF 80 (D.Schouman), 23 yards Pass Target: BUF 80 (D.Schouman) Yardage Gained After the Catch: BUF 80 (D.Schouman), 5 yards Pass Reception Yards, No Reception: BUF 11 (R.Parrish), 4 yards Pass Reception Yards, No Reception: BUF 22 (F.Jackson), 3 yards Fumble - Not Forced: BUF 22 (F.Jackson) Own Recovery Yards: BUF 11 (R.Parrish), -4 yards Solo Tackle: NE 23 (L.Bodden) ----------------------------------------------- I believe Edwards played the best game against the Patriots by a Bills QB since the 2003 opener, and it's great to see the YAC stats, but this list emphatically does not support the theory that Edwards looked downfield -- indeed, he didn't complete a pass more than 10 yards past the line of scrimmage until the desperate last-minute drive.

Right, because there was absolutely no reaction on TSW to any of those other incidents. BTW, per Wawrow, the graffiti DID include an obscenity.

Exactly. It's being picked up by the national media. Yeah, not serious at all.

FWIW, No. 100 is Thomas Symonette. And Scott Green's crew is the same one which blew the Polamalu call in last year's Chargers-Steelers game: http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/conte...s_refs_adm.html http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3707245

For what it's worth, a few reactions from the national media: Rich Eisen, NFL: "Awful. Apparently, no one circles the front lawn like the Buffalo Bills..."fans"?" Pete Prisco, CBS: "It makes me sick to think some jackass fan vandalized Leodis McKelvin's home. It's a game idiot. Not life or death. And I think I get it bad with some of the comments on the bottom of my columns. nasty people." Charles Robinson, Yahoo!: "Add this fan to Kanye's "jackass" category." So ... get used to hearing about those "classy" Bills fans. Great.

Brad Riter has a screenshot of that play on Facebook. Welker's elbow is on the hashmark at the 26, with everything else behind it. I'll copy what I posted there: From the gamebook: 2-10-BUF 35 (2:38) (No Huddle, Shotgun) T.Brady pass short middle to W.Welker to BUF 25 for 10 yards (R.Corner). For statistic-calculating purposes, the ball would have had to be completely over the hashmark at the 36 for it to be considered first-and-10 at the 35. In that picture, the ball is not completely over the 26, so there's no possible way that completion was good for a full 10 yards. Third down.

The really funny thing about this? Brad Riter has a screenshot of the game up on his Facebook page ... and with the ball roughly a yard from hitting his hands, McKelvin's foot is OUTSIDE the end zone. So, yeah, in that split-second, he obviously should have known whether or not he was okay to kneel down for a touchback.