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you know what, WEO, probably even the league, in general, too.

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2021/10/15/22728339/washington-football-investigation-jeff-pash-bruce-allen-jon-gruden https://nypost.com/2021/10/14/wft-cheerleaders-are-traumatized-reliving-topless-photo-nightmare/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/10/07/ryan-vermillion-washington-trainer-prescription-drugs/ and no, part of this, a 10 million dollar fine doesn’t cover it. Edit: and it is sprinkled with utter and complete horse**** that 650k emails resulted in one or two guys, not with the org, getting in any sort of trouble.

Quite simply think about how you feel right now about other organizations, players and coaches around the league. Especially some of the lesser ones (Miami, Jets, etc.). Now think about if you had won countless games, divisions and Super Bowls over even a few years. I mean, I get it. For the first time, especially after the last 24 games, I get it. By year three in New England how are you not thinking of most teams around as tiny little amoebas, just annoyingly in your way to your ultimate goal? Don't believe me? Then how worried are you, or how much thought do you give to winning the division? It’s not an endeavor in my mind. It’s just something, you know…you do, but not worth even talking about.

@Hapless Bills Fan This is a joke, Hap. A great big freaking joke and they should not be allowed to get away with this. No one should feel comfortable allowing them to get away with this.

I don’t disagree with your comment on the position they are in or even judging on wins and losses. I was just referencing the program as a whole. Staying at a consistent level, even given the coaching transition, helps quite a bit. 7-5 keeps the .500 or better 4 year trend going. Even now 31-14 in their last 38, since being 2-6 in 2017.

Let’s be completely honest, a loss today could have set the program back a few years. I still think 7-5 keeps things moving forward and upward. They cash in though at 6-6 or worse…oh boy. Won’t be a bounce back year next year.

i like them both, but Moss more than a Singletary, but yeah I was just about to post about Singletary. I don’t know why but I just have this feeling in my gut. Now, wjag, in my mind maybe even Moss with more carries, but Singletary is going to escape on one like in Miami. Maybe not a td, but it will account for his big chunk of yards and he will lead the team in rushing. That said, of course I want a big game from Josh, BUT, I would like to see another 140 yards or more rushing by the three headed monster. Keep teams thinking, “oh no, they can run, too.”

@TheyCallMeAndy @Logic @MJS The obvious one, even so much that Jeremy talked about this morning on WGR, Knox with the lead early on in Ray’s video above with a a four point jump overall to 81. 1. Well deserved. 2. A Bills TE with an 80 or greater rating in Madden?! Never thought I’d see the day. The other news is Josh finally go up beyond where he starts the season. His highest ever rating of 89 (up 1). Good, but how this guy, now into his second year of dominance is still in the 80s is ridiculous. Ray agrees (8:41 - 8:56 above). Especially with Dak at 90 and Lamar at 93. afc defensive rookie of the week Greg Rousseau going up two points to…a 71? How is he so low even as a rookie?! (14:22)

The Bills are built for this year and next. Things become dicey after that as far as signings and keepings. call it the Wilford Factor, although for the young ones who don’t know that is a whole thread on its own.

They have made a number of improvements, but this year's edition at launch and for a while afterwards was UNIVERSALLY PANNED AND RIPPED, especially by the online players and Youtube community. Of course it would have to be in the year that the Bills were good in it for the first time in almost a quarter century, right?

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/10/13/to-get-wft-emails-pressure-is-being-placed-on-nfl-sponsors/ We are quite an assembly of half wits. We dawdle back and forth on this stuff concerning an already fired coach. Please, why don't we go another few rounds on the OJ WoF thing, or crucify Shefter in the name of journalistic integrity. All the while the real villains at the center of this story are still out there, prowling about thinking they got away. No...no you didn't. No you didn't, Dan Snyder, WFT and NFL.

Yes, ned. What I posted on earlier in this thread was from the website, but honestly, I don't click on him and I won't even go to web page articles about him again. Fine talking about him here, but I will aid him in nothing that helps his career. No acrimony and no canceling. I just have no reason to support the guy on anything because, quite simply...he lies.

Dang it, now I’m liking all these. ….I just don’t like the subject. 😁

100% agree and thought about it, Ed, but I was sticking to a certain narrative. 😂

No laurel resting here, Chris. Just citing numbers. Also, life is too short to let excitement wait until February 2022. 😉

Amen, Brother Rubes.

That's the record of the AFC Semi-Finalists, including playoffs, since kickoff in 2020. Buffalo: 19-5 KC: 18-6 Ravens: 16-7 Titans: 14-8 The Bills and the Packers have the best record in Football over that span (Bucs are 19-6). More data? Over those 24 games the Bills have put up 741 points to 500 points against for a positive ledger to the tune of 241 points. Edited down over that entire span including losses, the Bills have put up 31 or so points a game to giving up 21 per game. ...and our D is obviously now much better. Want more stupid numbers? In the last 8 regular season games the Bills have outscored their opponents 314 - 119, or roughly 39 to 15, every game. ESPN also put up a stat (don't make fun of me, I was just looking around for post game info) that said this year's Bills and the Broncos (I don't know, pick which year it was, I really don't care) are the only two teams in NFL history to score 35 or more points in 7 out of 8 regular season games. In summation...this Bills team makes me want to shout...a lot.

LOGIC... ... DANGIT...they will. Pathetic. I haven't checked even before Sunday's game, but honestly, I bet the Chiefs as a team are still higher than the Bills (and still will be after this week), because...you know...stuff. Algorithms and math...stuff. I will fight you, EA. I will fight you in broad daylight!

Guns, no lie, if the Bills win 48-21 he will have an excuse. That's the problem with his commentary and why you can't take him seriously. Please everyone, I know about click bait, but this goes beyond that. This is obstinance over the treatment he has received from Bills fans because we above all others have had the greatest disdain for him and have voiced it loudly and clearly. I am definitely not saying he is right. I am saying no height of success will have him give an expected commentary. He is beyond that with us. Fine...we are the same with him.

@TheyCallMeAndy Waiting, Andy. Just waiting. You watch and see. They'll give him nothing. Nothing. EA - nasally, punk voice: "Meh, he only completed 52% of his passes which offsets 3 TDs, a 130 rating, 59 yards rushing and another td on the ground. As far as the team goes they really didn't do that much more than the Chiefs." Jerks.

It's ridiculous that we have to go all the way back to the Miami game to have both those conditions (or better) show up at the same time. EDIT: All you teams playing in consistently ideal conditions with a little bit of rosiness on your checks at the end of Sunday afternoons enjoy it for now. Because winter is coming and the North remembers.

The stuff we talk about sometimes is red herring bull****. OJ, the WoF, Gruden. All of this should either be paused or just plain flushed down the toilet. While we piss on each other back and forth on this stuff the NFL, the WFT and Dan Snyder are going to creep out the backdoor, strolling and whistling their way home. I love football, but this is sprinkled with so much horse**** it shouldn't be a "s*** sandwich, with horse*** sprinkles." It is just plain a horse**** sandwich and I don't think they should be allowed to just walk away on this hypocrisy. Don't be a dunce and just quote other instances. I don't approve of those, either. However, it is horrible what that man and that organization, and to a further extent what this league has done and you mean to tell me that the fall guy in all this is John Gruden?! Really?! So that is the meat on this bone, rah-rah, see you later?! Hardly! EDIT: NFL fans want to start a chant in the stands of every game this weekend? THIS is what it should be about. Every stadium.

Agree. My comment was about and in response to OJ.

I hate to be that guy, but...acquitted. Sorry, I lean towards the legal aspect of things...and yes I 100% believe he did it. HOWEVER, taking him down because he is a for sure wife beater, even going back to his Buffalo days?! Yes.

I answered the only correct answer along with some of my brethren…30-40%. It can’t be 50-50. I love jelly, too, but it simply can’t be. and below 30%? No offense, but shove it. Just plain not enough jelly sweet goodness.