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My deepest sympathy and condolences to Ralph and the Wilson family. BTW, if memory serves me, and some of you can verify this, she was responsible for pushing hard on the Bills drafting Andre Reed.

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Geez, I'm sorry, i know it is a "Good" grade, but I don't understand comments like this. If you want to state the loss of Peters necessitated them getting an OT in the draft and they didn't, THEN SAY THAT. Otherwise the comment is wrong. Other than the picks we got for Peters he has nothing to do with this draft class. Why not just mention that because we lost Crowell in free agency this draft wasn't as good b/c we did not get a starting LB? Yes, I know, even though he wasn't the starting LB for us last year, but you get my point. Additionally, have the bills made any comments along the lines of, "We see Byrd as a Safety, but come on, he'll eventually go back to corner because we see him excelling at the position due to his one-step-behind lack of corner speed." ?

Small additional note: Maybin was 236lbs...about 4 months ago. Although i will take the A- from them.

Only two teams higher than ours in the DMN. I can really, really live with that. Thanks, KD, I'm starting feel damn good about this draft.

That's great, but more importantly I am waiting for the Dallas Morning News' grade for the Bills. I just have always trusted them when it comes to the draft.

Everyone made fun of the Bengals for making a "reach" pick on Levi Jones in that draft. Of the top three tackles taken in the 2002 draft which would you have wanted the last few years; Jones, Mike Williams, or McKinney? Yeah, I'll take Jones, please. Maybe not now b/c of his injuries but I always liked that pick for Cincy.

If Schobel and Moorman play with the bills after next season it will be their 10th year with the team. The thing is, off the top of my head I can't even remember the last "10" year Bill. I'm seriously asking the question b/c I want to know, but doesn't that also show the bad state of this team for drafting, retaining and obtaining talent? Ok, OK, rhetorically question, I know, but it is still pretty sad when you think about it considering the number of players from previous iterations that spent 10 years here.

Two Night references, can't remember who said them: "He can turn off the lights and be in bed before it gets dark." "He can catch a beebee at midnight during a new moon."

I'm sorry, you lost me at "three second-round picks." Three-second-round-picks. Look, I know it's the patriots and they always have a ton of picks each year, but I am just sick of it. It's like extra monopoly money for them.

From what I've seen they love Moreno and considering the tread (or lack there of) on Westbrook's tires I think they are going to go RB.

Yeah, very true. Regardless of whether you get your favorites or not if someone handed that to you as Bills fan you'd just have to shake your head and say, "damn, looks good."

When the last of the Polian team (John Butler and AJ Smith) left town in 2000. Regardless of what some people around here say about Butler and the cap mess that we were in, we made the Playoffs 2 out of his last 3 years. Polian, Ferguson, Butler, Smith...10 trips to the playoffs in their last 13 years (88,89,90,91,92,93,95,96,98,99) Honestly...HONESTLY, do we even need to look any further?

That's what I was thinking too, nucci. Even though the article says he's fine financially he could be realizing that THE VERY LAST YEARS of pulling a yearly income of more than 500k a year are going to disappear shortly so he better get on track.

What do you guys think: 5 million per year with a good percentage guaranteed (maybe 75%) for the first player drafted, sloping to 3 million per year for the 16-17th pick and 1 million and over per year for the 32nd pick. Just an idea, tweak as you like. EDIT: Even with the dramatic change from the numbers you see nowadays I find it hard to believe that any college graduate...err, sorry - former college student would walk away from a 5 year, 25 million dollar deal with 18.75 million guaranteed.

Also, you guys, isn't Philly one of those teams that plays around with the cap like Minnesota started doing a number of years ago? I guess clump would be a better person to answer this question, but I think it involved front loading contracts, the way bonuses were handed out and squeezing all cap space out before the start of any given year to make room for the next season.

I used to rip on reed...i don't anymore. This guys just plain keeps getting better the older he gets, or at least better each of the last couple of years. Yes, it will help, but I would be thrilled with 60 + and 6 TDs for Reed. I'll be even more honest with ya, I would be OK with our starting 3 receivers catching 200 or so balls and 18 TDs. Its not stellar, but it would be passable. EDIT: just some additional info; our starting 3 WRs caught 143 balls for 1,846 yards...and 5 TDs. Could I be asking too much for 18 TDs?

How long will it take for him to again get disinterested in football?

That is a good point, Mr L. I guess it would depend on how much they love somebody in the later half.

No, I am not 100% sure about 2010. I just know from everything that I have read that THIS is not a strong draft and I am not sure we are quite at the state to see how many FIRST ROUND draft picks we can stack it with, or give up for it. What do you do if AFTER the 2010 college season the 2010 draft is deep at a position of need, wherein you might be able to fall back in round 1 or get more picks later in the draft? My one overall feeling this year is that I do not want to stretch in this years draft. Get what we need, get deals if they are out there, and that's it. hmmm, why can't i get the image of JP Losman from the 2004 Draft Class out of my head? NOTE: Thank you, G.Host, I had not yet seen your post before i revised mine, but your point is my point.

No offense, but this is not the draft year you try to put all your eggs into. ...No, this is not that year at all.

Sorry to be one of those guys, NYO, but who's on first? So, you won't be nervous if we DO come out of the first round without an OT? Just funnin' ya, man, I get what ya meant and I'm with you.

Thanks, Skoob. I know it was an easy and obvious one to throw out there but I could not resist.

Hey, did anyone see that Youtube video of Hitler going on about T.O.?

You, Sir, are flawed in your thinking...because you left out the Dockery Debacle. Otherwise, your analysis was uncomfortably accurate. Man am I nauseous over this team and front office.