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Sorry helmet hair, but I have to agree with "Laces Out!" on this one. I know the Bills and Marv covet ST'ers as good as Davis but he does not come cheap, is getting older and the Bills may want to take a shot at adding depth at WR in the draft. I love our guys, but we do have a lot of veterans at WR that aren't necessarily as good as what we are paying them.

Well said, TGS; that was just plain dumb and it shows you that he is either incredibly ignorant or has a huge axe to grind. I think it's a little of both, but more so that this guy is a huggggggggeee ignoramus!

This is no offense to some well thought out posts that followed, but the above is true and the debate on the subject really does start and finish with Quaker's comments.

I truly think that in his 2nd or 3rd season this guy is going to be something special. Man, even if we get a RB earlier I would hope we get this kid in the 3rd round with our second pick. I know it is being greedy but I seriously think he is worth it, just not necessarily for the 2007 season.

Post of the Day. OMG, "drop a coil," are you kidding me? Tremendous.

There are so many good posts in this thread that i don't want to rehash things people have already said. Please just assume that I "quoted" 95% of everything written here.

Hell, if we are going this far why don't we throw in Losman, just in case SD wants him to compete with Rivers, and, I don't know, let's say a 3rd rounder in 2009.

I did see that. It is one thing to say that you disagree with the Bills' moves, speak poorly of them and then say they were headed in the wrong direction...However, this was more than that. This was a bludgeoning of the team and the organization, equipped with conspiracy theories (thanks Morty!) and outright lies (since when does being 8-9 million under the cap equal out to - paraphrase - "unwilling to spend any money"). Even though my other comments on this board concerning this subject made me a little sensitive to the a national attacks on the Bills, I was accepting of what some here said when you suggested, "the heck with them, what do they know," but come on, guys, this was ridiculous yesterday.

Sorry, I have to disagree. I've heard before it was his dream job. Even before the events at the 'Nati he would have left the Bearcats in an instant to take the WV job if it had been offered, even given how much he enjoyed Cincinnati. I feel bad for the players, but when your dream job is finally dangled out there for you, you don't pass it up. None of us would.

I'm starting to lean so heavily in Willis' favor lately that I will be very disappointed if we don't get him at #12. That being said, it partially assumes that AP is not their at 12. However, if AP is their at 12, regardless of the talent pool for RB being better than the talent pool for LB for the remainder of the draft (personal opinion), I just can't imagine passing up on a kid as talented as Peterson when he falls into your lap. This coming from a guy who sort of considers RBs to be a dime a dozen. If it were Lynch / Willis, no brainer - Willis. I think Willis is outstanding. However, I am among those that think that AP is such a special talent that all other considerations, even desperate need positions, go right out the window when the opportunity arises to get him.

I hear ya and agree with you 95% on this one, Dan. Although I would consider Lynch if he were still there. However, I am leaning more and more towards hoping and praying that Willis will be there... ...which means he won't be there.

If we don't get Turner then i absolutely love the above. Nice job Horus.

DB-94, from what you know of these guys do you think or feel they are ready to start? I think that is a fair question b/c i believe there was a feeling last year that Simpson was going to be able to see the field early in his first year at safety, where as they knew Youboty, although highly touted, was going to need a little time.

I disagree with you that our other young LBs can step up with Crowell and Ellison. However, I'll go along with you as long as you can give me the name of a potential LB in the 3rd round who could start for us.

I 2nd billsoverdue on this one.

I'll agree with you, mainly b/c I don't want to appear idiotic.

I agree completely, disco. You can't see it but my emoticons eyes were rolling. I just was using those two as examples of what gives todays NFL bloggers the warm and fuzzies with respect to what teams should do. Additionally, I wish I could remember it exactly, but I remember Marv Levy's press conference after the draft last year when one of the reporters seriously questioned the Bills' picks and (I believe) stated that most NFL analysts said it was a bad move and Marv simply replied that he trusts his scouts and staff for putting the Bills together more than NFL analysts. I might be a little off on that but that is essentially what happened. Priceless! Nice job, Marv. Although i would hate to lose Modrak, but I'll believe his gone when I see it.

Absolutely. I was just more so commenting about the "State of the Bills" that came out of the article.

Nice! Guys, I know we're "homers" but come on, lately, any 5 of us can knock the hell out of most of these arguments or comments that the "analysts" have been saying about the Bills. It doesn't necessarily make us right, it just makes them look bad.

Thanks, billsoverdue, I never got a "Bravo" before.

Jeez, I'm so sick of the "sky is falling" national media outlet commentaries with respect to this team. A couple of quick hits here, If I may: 1. I believe I am correct when i say that come the 2007 season, we'll have only 3 starters 30 and over and no one over 31 - youth; 2. After we draft or trade, almost the entirety of our starting defense we'll either be contractual obligated or restricted free agents for no less than 2, most likely, 3 years to come - stability; 3. Most of the current (Triplett), new (Walker, and McCargo - remember him) or possibly, soon to be (Willis) defensive players are compatible with our implementation of the Tampa 2 defensive scheme - experience or scheme knowledge; 4. There is little argument that our OL that got better last year (5-4 finish) was made, through free agency, better this year, and with a little depth - upgrade; 5. I have little doubt that either through a trade (Turner) or the draft (Lynch, Pittman) we will get a faster, more hands efficient RB that, at least for a little while, wants to be here - stability, consistency, youth, skill; 6. The guy protecting JPs blind side should probably come into his own this year as one of the best tackles in the business - experience, skill, stability, youth; 7. Cap wise, we are going to be in a good position after this year to sign JP and Evans (should they flourish) which along with our upcoming draft moves, FA so far, and our recent signings will contractually obligate a majority of our improved and improving OF for no less than 2, most likely, 3 years to come - stability; 8. We are getting back the NFL's 11th rated QB, along with our "should have been a Pro Bowler" WR - youth, stability, experience, skill and I could go on and on. Please forgive me for not feeling worse about my team, its direction and its leadership. Can anyone tell me how we go about signing Lavaar Arrington or Chris Brown?

You stole the words from right out under my finger tips. If he did not suffer his injury last year i would still grade him as worthless.

I can't stress this enough: I have honestly felt for years that Lavaar Arrington is and has been THE most overrated player in NFL. I watched teams throw money at him after essentially having only one career year. I've talked about this with friends and it has always been one of the more baffling things about the NFL. It was even more annoying during nationally televised games when announcers would repeatedly comment about how great he is; only to watch him play poorly during that particular game. I ask you honestly, did this guy make a deal with the devil?

Yes, yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss, I'M MAKING SUPER HUMANS!!!!!! No, I'm just an idiot, I mean Patrick Willis.