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rpcolosi, no offense my friend and fellow bills fan, but you are missing my point, well, some of my point, that's cool, though. (actually, maybe you do, may be you don't) Hey, I am glad you are a hunter, hell, I love hunters, you want to bring the venison over my friend, I will give you the address and i promise to do it up in the the skillet to make it nice and juicy...mmmm deer meat!!! The mistake, is grilling it, too lean to grill!!! Check Petrino's post who I quoted from, I was mainly agreeing with his thoughts. However, i highly doubt, as a dog owner, you would do what was indicated in that Real Sports story. if you did though, I doubt I would cheer for you.

Two cats right now and I hope to get a dog some day. I couldn't agree with you more, Petrino. I can forgive Michael Vick, but I don't think I can forget enough to cheer for the guy when he crosses the endzone in a Bills jersey. ...sorry, I just can't. PS - sorry to make this more horrible, but during an episode of Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel last year I saw in a story they were doing on dog fighting that they will kidnap long since domesticated and gentle dogs out of people's yards, tape their mouths shut, and let them be tortured as training fodder for the fight dogs. ...so, you out there tell me that I should cheer for him?

I read my post again and considering my poor writing skills I thought to myself why didn't I just say, "great point, cincy, I agree." but nnoooooo I had to get wordy!!! Yeah, I want to see the goods, too. He needs to get in.

It is who we are, Todd. We are powerless to fight it.

Lets see here, Just Jack decided to post, OK, blah blah blah, Oh, there's pictures, OK, I'll just click and see...and I am still heterosexual, good to know very good to know. Man, they have great skin.

Man, you guys, this is the 800 lbs gorilla in the room that people outside of this board don't talk about. "Oh, the line has issues" "Is T.O. going to cause problems." "I don't know if Edwards is a true starter in this league." ??????????? Uh, no, talking heads, how about, "Is it my imagination or are the Bills' DEs getting eaten alive?"

You and I are normally on the same page, stuckincincy, especially lately. So please don't mind if I feel the need to second your posts. I couldn't agree more with you more, my friend, and very well said. Maybin - either tack 5% onto last year's #11 pick salary, or do subtle derivations between the closest signed guys to you, top and bottom, come up with a number and get into to camp.

Thanks, Billistic, that was a mystery from watching the game last night. No one seemed to even acknowledge Rhodes not playing on the telecast, although i may have missed something.

I'm sorry, but aren't a lot of you guys leaving out that fact that before Vick even went to jail a couple of years ago that he really wasn't that good of a quarterback? Do some of you think, and I am not knocking you if you do, that going away to jail and not playing any football for years gave him insight to be a better and smarter QB than the one we have now?

I had this conversation with Bagel a couple of weeks ago. No chance for Ruben Brown? 4 time all-pro and nine time pro bowler in 13 season. I'm not saying he's a lock and I am not even saying that he gets in, but I'd probably ease off that "no chance" tag.

So, he may be signed in time to play in 4 preseason games? Um, yeah, I guess that kinda works for me. No harm, no foul.

Nice J666. I only have one gripe with your final 53 and it is the same as others have mentioned here. Youbouty WILL make this team.

Man, do I feel stupid. I did not even know we could do that with DirecTV, and I've had it for 8 years, and the HD box for 2.

Don't, Dave, seriously, don't. Don't go there, because I was one of those whinny little b******* all those years ago that would have loved for us to be in the Central division - wherein the furthest city away from us, driving wise, is still closer than our closest opponent in the East - wherein Baltimore would have been a natural fit in the East, as we would in the central - wherein all the teams are at the pretty much same pay scale - WHEREIN BILL PARCELS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN LINKED TO EVERY OTHER AFC EAST FRANCHISE EXCEPT FOR US!!! SO DON'T GO THERE OR I...WILL...LOSE IT!!!!!!!!! Peace, Bills brethren and sisteren.

best response ever. Nice, M & M.

Yes, because after the great success of the Peerless Price deal Atlanta can't wait to get their hands on another Buffalo receiver.

I happened to catch this last night, as well. Considering Vincent Smith (i believe that's who it was) is a Buffalo native, I am not going to jump all over him for his opinion of Buffalo or Buffalonians. BUT, it was a little insulting, not as much his comments directly about racial issues in this city, but how it is better in other cities, as he mentioned Atlanta...? (yes)...and from his comments you can assume he also includes TOs other cities: Dallas, San Fran, and Philly due to Smith's comments that the racial component would be WORSE in Buffalo than in TOs prior stops. Come on, Vincent. Come on.

YEAH BABBBBBYYYYYY!!!! Ah, that felt good.

Right on, Chandler. Look, I can imagine how tricky it will be for him and if he doesn't catch on it may slightly jeopardize his career. HOWEVER, I believe he is in the 3rd year of a five year deal, and if he shows up this year and even improves greatly next year, this guy can walk into One Bills Drive after his 4th year and say, "Let's start talking long term; I'm thinking 6 years, 60 million dollars sounds about right." ...and considering this conversation is taking place in January/February 2011, he might just get it.

I know they adjusted the ratings this year, where most teams seem to be a little lower than they were in previous years, AND I know it is mostly based on the aggregate of ratings but DAAAAMMMNNNNNN I would be pissed if I were a Dolphin fan. ...Last year's AFC East Division champions with an overall rating of 77?! The third place Jets at 78, and the last place Bills at 76? Man I can hear the complaining from South Beach now. EDIT: I like the Chargers team, in general, but...really?...they're 11 points better than us (88). ?...A team we beat who we finished one game behind?

Magox The thread officially ends due to Bills fan logic being spot on. Yeah, it would be nice, but it is just not going to happen.

Pitta, this is not a knock on you, hell this isn't a knock on anybody, but, as long as you know the plays and you have a smart center (which we do), whether you have 35 seconds in between plays to digest it, or 15, it really doesn't make a difference to you as an offense lineman, and it DOES put even a good defense on its heels a little bit. Holy crap was that a poorly punctuated sentence?! I've never thought that there was great risk for any team to run the no huddle - line wise. All you really need for it are play makers and a smart QB/C combo. Smart QB: Edwards - Stanford - check Smart C: Hangartner - 47 on the wonderlic - check Play makers: Evans, Owens, Lynch, Jackson, on third downs Reed - check

God bless you, Joe!!!

Ok, this was brilliant and so I am giving it its "propers" because no one else did.

San Jose, I have nothing more concrete here. I just always heard that he was generally unruly with the staff, creaming at them rudely, and such. Edit: a better word might be abrasive.