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Sorry if this has been asked before, but I just haven't seen this discussed before at the odd times I come into TSW.
Additionally, sorry if this is too far back for some of you, but for the elderly of this Board, it seems like yesterday.
For those who don't know let me give you a little history lesson:
1980 - Week 15, Bills lose to the Patriots and Fergy hurts his ankle early in the game. The next week, hobbled by a sprain that years later we would find out is actually a broken ankle, Joe leads us to a victory over the upstart 49ers with a rookie Joe Montana, an 11-5 record and a division title.
We go out West and lose to the Chargers (whom we defeated earlier in the year out there, 26-24) in the divisional round, due to a 50 yard TD pass by Fouts with about 2:14 to play. SD holds and wins 20-14.
As some (maybe many of you know), Oakland beats Cleveland and goes to SD to beat the Chargers and eventually the Super Bowl 15 over Jaws and the Eagles.
The obvious question: would a healthy Joe Ferguson have made the difference? Could we have beat the Chargers in SD, as we did earlier in the year, if Joe had two good legs?
Secondly, could we have beaten the Raiders? Yes, the Raiders were a different team with Plunkett at the helm than we had beat up on them in Buffalo earlier in the year.
However, as the Wild Card, they would have had to come to Buffalo to beat us, instead of going out to sunny SD. BTW, yes, I know that they had to go to frozen Cleveland and win 14-12, so weather may not have mattered, but in all honestly, I don't like comparing some of the lucky things the Cardiac Kids of Cleveland did with what the Bills did with a top flight defense and Fergy, Cribbs, Butler and Lewis did on Offense.
Of all the teams in the Bills history and all the turmoil we have put ourselves through as fans, this is the one that I really thought could have been something more than what they were.
If we make it to the Super Bowl how long does Knox stay around, even given his problems with Wilson?
Do we still let Fergy go in '84 even though he is the "savior" that took us to our first SB?
Do we let Cribbs go?
Again, sorry if this is old territory for most of you, but seeing our success lately makes me think back to our other good teams and other potentially great seasons and finishes that just drifted away through time.
Peace and go Bills!
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i dont have a problem with the rankings. my gripe is with espn...one week we are pretenders the next we are contenders..it's ridiculous...the same thing happened with new england when the lost to san diego...last week they were toast and this week's bs win over the broncos espn said they are ready to make a run at the super bowl
True, and I think I'm changing my tune. Your point is well taken, so is Kas's point that we are the lowest rated 5-1 team. That needed to sink in a bit.
I'm going to go even further; how much do you think they were really tempted to put one of the 2 loss teams ahead of us but just couldn't?
Um, are we going to get a boast in cred considering that the Rams haven't loss since playing us?
How about the fact that we have now beaten 3 playoff teams from last year, lost our only game to a good Cards team, and beat the Chargers by a larger amount than all their other losses combined (i think - OK, just checked, close to it 10 points combined, 9 in the Bills game)?
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We've been having red zone TD issues for countless years.
Oh, believe me, I hear ya, MFP, but I thought I heard somewhere that overall it was the lowest TD total in 16-game team history.
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Ah hah!
We're tied for 7th in rushing TDs with 7, but we're tied for 17th in receiving TDs with 7.
We're tied at 13 in total TDs with 16.
I like the balance, but I'd like to se a whole bunch more 6s piled up.
This Sunday would be a great place to start.
Guys, this got me thinking; how many offensive TDs did we have last year?
Wasn't an all time low for the Bills, like 16 or 17?
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look at the new power rankings...two weeks ago, after the arizona game, they had the bills dead in the water...now we are a "real contender"...these rankings are soooo ridiculous
jd, I am not trying to be one of those guys, but i really don't have a problem with it and until NY, Pitt or Tenn lose badily or win REAL ugly we are probably going to be stuck at #4.
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Honestly, this story is actually more interesting with what is going on now with the sort of cover-up (if true) than the original issue at hand.
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92% favorable. What the hell do the other 8% expect?!
He should be more dynamic.
...or maybe wear shirts with a racing stripe on the side.
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Assuming this isn't also sarcasm, back 'atcha.
Naw, man, it is the genuine, grade A thing!!
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Decaf, huh? I suppose that's to mean my post made me sound overly excitable or something. I'll try to tone it down.
Also, I'm not sure what you believe the word "sarcasm" to mean, but your statement was a direct response to my asking for an example of an "illegal reason" that you suggested could exist for this incident to have occured, and as such I took it at face value.
Sorry to have misunderstood...Whatever it is you were trying to say.
No, Kgun5, it's my bad and my lame sense of humor. And if i was overly jerky in my response, my apologies.
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So you think the following is more likely to have happened than this all being accidental:
1) The ref is offered money to not only fix a game, but to injure an opposing team's QB.
2) He is ok with it morally.
3) He believes he can, without pads, a helmet, youth, or a weapon, actually injure the QB.
4) He decides to try to accomplish his mission without any subtlty, with a weak forearm to a helmetted QB's head.
Sure, it's possible. Is it more likely than this being accidental? Is it even close?
Decaf.
Seriously, it is just as tasty as the real thing.
Furthermore, Sears can also fix sarcasm detectors if yours is broken.
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I'd love to hear the illegal reasons you could give.
Ref: "Look, I can't begin to tell you HOW MUCH money they were offering me to take him out, but I can say, it was quite a bit."
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beerball-where did you get that pic for your avatar? thing is awesome
Please can i second that, and who is she?
EDIT: sorry, I mean dib's avatar.
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I don't know how the NCAA can't see anything wrong with that.
I don't know how any reason (other than illegal reasons) can be given other than flash back.
Ref: "You don't understand...i was right there. I had a clear shot on the QB and that only comes up a few times in a lifetime, whether you're 18 or 48."
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Analogy of the year award winner?
Youtube link, murra, to help those on the board who are uninformed.
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FOX Sports reports that Favre contacted Lions and spent over 1 hour briefing them on GB playbook.
Of course, the sorry Lions still lost big. Still, if proven true it shows that Bret is a real a$$wipe.
Sitting around and explaining to the Lions how to win in this League is kind of like the witness protection officers trying to explain to Homer Simpson that he now has an alias in that Cape Fear/Side Show Bob episode.
Although, I give Homer a little more credit.
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How doth one run for 167 years?
You go down hill a lot.
Geez, think about these questions before you ask them, will you?
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It didn't look like that to me. It looked like Lynch saw a cut-back lane open and just tripped over Preston's leg.
Preston held his own, although I don't disagree with you that an upgrade at center would be nice.
JR, I watched it a couple of times, he got pushed back and to the right. Preston could have been riding him outside, but he still appeared to get into the backfield, or rather stymied Preston into the backfield.
Partially Marshawn's fault, you betcha. Did he have a good game, yepper. I just really noticed that play.
However, we do really need a new center.
Sorry, Melvin.
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Sure. Didn't mean to infer that it wouldn't. Just that I believe we're a lock for post season play. Against Denver specifically, I really like our chances. Their defense is poor, which makes them a pretender. But I hope they blow the Pat* out tonight.
Man, can you believe we are even talking this way?
This is nuts...I love this season.
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Just a guess here, but I have come to believe neither the Bronco's game nor Patriots* game will have much influence on playoffs. This is hard to type with a straight face -sort of- but the Bills will win the East as easily as they did in '88 and we and the Titans will have a bye to open the AFC playoffs.
BELIEVE, Bills fans!
Yeah, maybe no influence on making it to the playoffs, but if Buffalo has 10 or more wins and Denver has 10 or more wins do you mean to tell me that a precursor to a potential playoff showdown wouldn't be of interest?
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The Chargers are SOLID at the DT position......Jamal Williams and that other guy they have are big time disrupters
I didn't see any inside push getting to Edwards
Now we didn't look that much better between the tackles......but you also didn't see Melvin Fowler missing assignments. Duke Preston needs to start.
Yeah, but I remember on the 2nd play near our goal line, where it looked like Marshawn tripped, or popped in the air, was due to Preston getting pushed back.
We need a new center either way...I'm just sayin'.
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With pizza man looking like he might be out for quite some time, it makes the decision to IR Crowell look even worse. I understand the Bills were mad, but he would have been back around now, and our depth at LB would have been much better.
Ralph was really, really, REALLY mad at him.
However, it doesn't make your point any less true.
Yeah, it would have been better to have him right about now.
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I gotta feeling that the final game at home against new england is gonna be moved to prime time, with playoffs/division on the line. But then again, I got a feeling about a lot of things
3cheese, please don't take this wrong, but there is no way, at least in my mind, that the playoffs or the division for that matter, are going to be on the line come that game against NE.
As i posted a few weeks ago, I think it is going to be the Denver game. There is no way (again, in my opinion) that both the Bills and Broncos won't have at least 10 wins by that game.
Although, the Jets game is a strong possibility, as well.
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Here is a crazy idea, Tony:
considering that KC, even when they were good a couple of years ago weren't going to the Super Bowl any time soon, coupled with the fact that KC is a small market that you didn't want to play in...why didn't you just get to the end of your contract and go to the place and the team you really wanted to go to instead of re-upping 2007?
...oh, wait, yeah, that's right, the money.
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god, i havent wanted anything more in a very long time from this team.
MAKE. THIS. HAPPEN.
I know.
I'm with you.
Please.
...Please.
If Fergy doesn't break his ankle in 1980
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Dan Manucci - no one wanted him to play
...and yes, I know Cribbs left of his own accord, but would we have fought more to keep him?