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This is one of those annoying threads at TSW where I actually have to consider almost all the posts because you guys all seem to be raising good points for your arguments. ...stop this. It is hurting my head. Truly, you think it would shift the thought process on the draft, but I really could see them finishing out the defense and trying to shore up the OL line somehows (ya like that english?) else. I hate all of you who are MAKING me consider Spiller, because I am starting to have daydreams about him in a Bills uniform running and catching touchdowns. Peace, my TSW brothers and sisters.

Normally i put a lot of thought into these poll questions before I answer, but this one was easy.

Yeah, agreed. Our fortunes won't be decided by Fitzy, but they are not going to spiral b/c of him, either.

Interesting. Curious that there is a COMPLETE turnover, with Browns' fans keeping their fingers crossed on Delhomme...fingers, toes, eyes, etc.

Yepper. I'll 2nd that.

It still scares me, BJM. This got could still lose 15-20 more pounds, get drafted, sign a deal and balloon back up. Yeah, the discipline is still an issue.

Ya know, if I really sat down and thought about ALL the mistakes and bungling done by the guys who ran this team over the last 10 years, from coaches to GMs to Owner, and all the WTF moments in drafts, from Whitner over Ngata and Maybin over Oher... ...I think I'd like to take out a stick and start whacking a bunch of people over the head. Seriously.

Look, I don't know how many of you guys have actually seen him play (I've seen him live in no less than 11 games), but honestly, Roosevelt is the real deal and if he is still there in the 4th round you have to take him. No, he is not big and no he is not ULTIMATELY fast; but he has quicks, great hands and is a ball hawk. Even playing for the UB Bulls stats don't lie: 268 career grabs, 3,551 yards and 28 TDs.

The weird thing is, I agree with this, in a way. Look, I know he's under contract and I know the Bills pay him more than good money and teams don't owe their players anything more than that...other than respect. I think after ten years of commitment to an organization you have the right to go to them and say, "Thank you for everything. However, it has been 10 years and i have never made the playoffs and it doesn't look likely that I am going to make it there anytime soon. I am closer now to the end then I am to the beginning. Please can I go closer to home and take a shot at the playoffs for what might be the last time in my career?" EDIT: The Sabres were classy enough to do it with Mike Ramsay (if memory serves me, in sending him to Pittsburgh) and although the Bills offered it to Joe D. in 1985, his tears were classy enough in letting the Bills, and us know, "thank you, but I started as Buffalo Bill and I am going to finish as a Buffalo Bill."

I didn't need to read the article, figoferreira. Your subject line and four letter comment told me enough. ...I was thinking of another four letter word for it, but the one you chose handles my opinion amply enough.

Also, Darth, I believe he is planning on selling the team and doesn't want to strap new ownership with large contracts they may not be interested in...even Peppers.

That would be great, and if that happens, I HOPE NBC would have at least some interest in airing that game on their primary network. (Yes that was a dig, yes I know they will, but yes, it is still a pisser...my msnbc was not in HD) BTW, much respect and hats off to our Canadian brothers and sisters.

You and me, both, kota. I swear to you I just had a bad feeling not only when he went down, but when we found out he was lost for the season. Honestly, it was a, "well, that's it" moment.

I agree with Dr D. I think, before this takes place, we would have to show McNabb (or any QB of noteworthiness that we might try to get here) that measures have been taken to upgrade the OL. In other words, FA, or trade for at least one quality Tackle, or convince McNabb we are definitely going to address OL in the first round of the draft. BTW, I am talking left tackle as I am not unhappy with Butler, even coming back from injury.

Sorry, Marv, I didn't see your post before I wrote mine. I could have just saved my fingers the work.

Thanks, GW, and I like your plan, but where is the money coming from? I am not at all trying to be sarcastic. When we fixed the stadium more than a decade ago we had to beg, BEG the State for money just to try and save our franchise and they weren't real eager for it; and those when in slightly better economic times. We all know that when it comes to allocating money for upstate NY, Albany gets real, real anxious and clutches their purse strings tighter and tighter. Would we have an Erie County tax? We love our Bills, but in our economy, again, not a really favorable option. Please let me state again, I do really like your plan. I like the look and I like the vibe...I just hate the reality of our situation and the way we are viewed by the rest of the State.

This thread is full of some win and a much, much, much needed 50 CCs injection of optimism we as Bills fans badly needed.

I'll agree with Thirty Year Fan: Great post. ...and a great thread. Additionally, I am very much looking forward to stories along the lines of, "I woke last night to the sound of thunder only to realize that it was just Nix, Gailey and Whaley arguing the next football move to make the Bills tougher." or "Chuck Norris bows to no men...but bows to Nix, Gailey and Whaley because it's just what you do out of respect when you're in the same club."

On a tangent here; I met Reeves randomly while in Georgia a few years ago at this well known steak place that I can't remember for the life of me. I was surprised, dare I say stunned, at what an affable and great guy he was. Honestly, just warm, considerate, thoughtful and would you believe, funny.

SJBF, in the recent past we've gone anywhere from 9 to 11, sometimes depending upon whether one of them is a long snapper. ...so no, I think we have room.

The Saving Grace to all us Buffalo sports fans but these long road trips (7 games in 14 days) are brutal on any team.

5-11...there. There it is. Now, are we going to be happy that we won more than 2 games or pissed that we didn't get to 8-8? Either way, its wash-rinse and repeat as it has been for the last decade. I envy you, b/c I utterly long for the days when this team got me excited.

Tru-dat, Adam. Word!! Hey, look, I'm still hip at 40!

I was 30 when the bills last made the playoffs. I am 40 now. Holy crap, I really could be freaking dead before they ever get to the playoffs again.

This. So very, very this.