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wow.

Thank you. Thank you. I believe Tyrod will start and I am more than fine with that, but I have loved EJ lately. However, the 400 lb gorilla in the room (ok, maybe 150 lb gorilla) is that, come the Indy game, the next td cassell or Tyrod throw for this team will be the first td they throw for this team.

It was one of those times for me when i get into my car and I could see his name on NFL Radio, but they had apparently just wrapped up and were going to commercial. They didn't follow-up after the break and I had to head back in to work. Just curious what he might have said to them...more so, what he said to the NFL listening audience, in general, about what has been going on.

I know I am in the minority here, but this has been one of the most enjoyable threads here in years. Many of you are typing a good game. I've wanted to quote some posts, but there has just been too many good ones to quote while still maintaining some reasonable order. Well done, TSW, and keep it up. Oh, and just in case anyone forgets who we all are during this 34 page back and forth: GO BILLS!

Well, either you do or ya don't. Ya know, 50-50.

Honestly, it's like watching that Miss Teen America Contestant from a few years ago have a melt down during the Q&A!

Isn't it funny, earlier this week they were, "it's the coaches doing this, it's the coaches that feel this way" and now it's, "what the F*** are the coaches doing?!"

I only had the chance to listen for a few minutes, but i seriously think Schoop is going to explode. ...open your windows and you should be able to hear it for real.

2 series EJ 2-3 series Cassell or 2-3 series for Tyrod. All with the starters (maybe 7 series total) This is what I think and I like it. ...and I don't believe they are doing it to be fair. I honestly think they just want to know. Not just with EJ as the starter, but everybody with the starters.

Man though, doesn't he Pete? When he's off, he is off...but that throw earlier this season and in his first season against the jets. Pretty, pretty, pretty. those throws.

Halfway through the preseason it would probably be good, regardless of our euphoria, if either of the two guys in line to be the starter on this team for the past few weeks throws a touchdown pass. ...and I say this even though I voted for Tyrod.

I agree completely, eball. I am so tired of this idea that if it is not indicated in the rules to be cheating or against the rules that it must be OK is a bunch garbage. Change the rules to mention only those things you are allowed to do (film analysis, hire/question former players and employees, etc.) and make everything else cheating.

I am willing to give Woods the "when bullets start to fly for real" pass here.

Don't be a fool, reddog. If I tilt my head a certain way and squint, that almost looks like you are giving EJ a compliment and that will NOT be tolerated, not on this board. He is on the rail and ready to be ridden out. ...even though keeping him doesn't really hurt us salary cap wise, and he is a good teammate. BE GONE WITH YOU, SIR!!! Sincerely, One-of-those-who-thinks-it's-ok-to-keep-3-QBs

I can judge anyone for any reason anytime I want. ...it is my God given right as an American! Truthfully, I'm interested to see what he does with this little aspect of adversity. What happens in a game when the ground game isn't going as it should?

So much truth. I second this.

Where in the world do you find a quote from Marrone's mom?

Guys, this PO's me a little bit. I get that your stats are your stats, but it does look like they take too much of the players that affect (yes, I did mean "a" and not "e" - not resulting but influencing) you into consideration. OBJ is not that much better than Watkins (if at all) but his QB is better than "insert Bills QB here".

Jeepers, Dork, that is some dynamite analysis.

I AM confused on why we are below the Dolphins.

Dareus (94) K. Williams (93) Mario (90) Gilmore (86) Hughes (85) Graham (84) Bradham (83) McKelvin (80) A Williams (79) I am not 100% sure about a starting 11, but if someone suggests a group I can pull the ratings for the remaining guys. EDIT: But I think it is ridiculous that they have Darby at 70!!!!!

Sorry, gentlemen, it was a little rude of me not to include where I am getting this from. They have a spreadsheet you can DL for the whole league. Additionally, to give credit where it is due, a shout out to JPSoccer4 on one of the other boards I frequent found the link. https://www.easports.com/madden-nfl/news/2015/player-ratings?utm_campaign=mad16-social-global-ic-fb-madden-16-ratings-excel-081215-fb-img-site-lnch&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&sourceid=mad16-social-global-ic-fb-madden-16-ratings-excel-081215-fb-img-site-lnch&cid=41908&ts=1439396942870&sf39871931=1

Agreed BH. Man, what I could do with Price, Moulds and Reed as the third WR back in the day. ...and don't even get my started on Parrish! and Kdiggz, you know that if the Pats had picked up IK, they'd be geniuses! I am disappointed with the rating, as well. I thought for sure they would be over 80.

That is the rating for Cassel, Manuel and Taylor, respectively. Those familiar with Madden know that is a pretty bad overall score for each, and worse when you consider that your QBs, in total, average below 75. What is encouraging? Reasonably happy with a speculated starting line of Glenn (86) Incognito (79), Wood (80), Miller (76) and Henderson (76), with an average of 79.4. OK, not stellar but they should hold their own. What is there to get thrilled over besides defense? Our other skill positions on offense. If you have three WRs, a TE and a RB in the game it looks like this: Woods (80), Watkins (85), Harvin (86), Clay (86) and McCoy (88). Freddy needs to relieve Shady? OK, then you have a respectable 82. Oh, you have a FB in? How about Felton's 88? In the first Offensive breakdown I indicated above the average for those positions is 85, giving a 10 player offense average of 82.2. With Cassel at QB it drops you down to about 81.5. Still, for Madden and Bills fans it really does give you enough to work with for Madden 16. EDIT: Sorry, I forget to mention overall the Bills are a 79...it has been quite sometime since they were 80 or above.

I haven't read all the posts, but I think this is being misinterpreted even further than what the OP thinks. Considering when Brady is likely to be suspended ESPN isn't even necessarily saying the Bills are an 8-8...they are likely a 7-9 team, that gets to improve to 8-8 without Brady in week two.