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Respectfully, if memory serves me I do not believe '04 was "win and your in." It became that as everything we needed to happen fell into place and an opportunity against Pittsburgh back-ups was missed. I thought we need (at least) the Jets to lose, and they did. I just don't remember it being win and your in. EDIT: Yeah, we would have beat the Jets in a tie-breaker. The Jets were 10-4 and then they lost their last two games, the last one in OT.

I will say this, I am honestly thinking for the first real time that if they absolutely love one of the top guys that I would be OK with them parting with three first round draft picks to get him. Will it set us back at other positions? Definitely. We need this though, you guys...oh, we need this so badly. EDIT: 4-12 (1986) and 7-8 (1987) Jim Kelly were so much more exciting and meaningful than the last decade or so. I know we had better foundation then, but still.

"Hope" is a great name for this Bills board. Welcome, young friend. New blood helps keep the veins of TSW strong.

Hindsight being ridiculously 20/20 and considering the internal rift, any chance New England would have taken our earlier number 1 (give them the option) for Jimmy?

Ok, that is just an easy up vote you got from me....you up vote w****! go bills!!!

I hate when I am reminded that I am getting old and that things, time and unfortunately, people, all pass. he was a good one. Condolences to his family.

My my first true laugh of the day. Thank you, J Dubs. Thank you.

Tangent here... Man, how much I would love to read on Christmas morning (after having watched it on Christmas Eve): "No Shady for Pats as LeSean lights up New England for 160 yards on the ground and 105 through the air, with 4TDs setting a personal record in a Buffalo uniform." Incognito put it best, "I mean it was ridiculous. We barely had to hold our blocks and he was gone. As far as the ten receptions go, what can I say? They knew he was going to get them and they still just couldn't cover him. Lee should have known better. We needed every one of those first downs and I will never forget the over the shoulder TD grab as long as I live."

Please, please, please...is it really just plain too much to ask for a miracle from the Colts? I'ts a damn football game, Indy. Come on, man, please win it.

Thurm, I am not going to jump on anyone for thinking that way. i get it, brother, I do. I was in tank mode at 6-6. However, I just plain need this 122nd out of 122 teams in North American Professional sports to make the playoffs thing to end. ...oh wait, I mean 123rd as Las Vegas looks like they will make the playoffs in their first year in hockey.

Good for for him, but respectfully, I don't get it.

Shady, three seconds before I hit Submit I had to change it from "SD". I stand by my LA...let the Rams be LAR!

my head hurts...but i would love to see it work out the way Promo suggests. My absolute druthers? Bills: 10-6 LA: 7-9 Balt: 8-8 Titans: 8-8

scares the hell out of me that I have actually thought about this...not with respect to your dog, but the final two games...your dog would just help me escape this turmoil.

No, but let me check again...oh yeah...it's what are the three best road games by Tyrod Taylor. Not everything is a fight, dude. Not every comment or thread is an invitation to confrontation and going aggro for the purposes of mixing it up. See, the thing is, I can explain it to you, but I can't comprehend it for you...that's on your end. If you're reading it as a purpose or reason to take it as an a front to something...man, then, OK...that's your call. I just know my OT doesn't have any baiting in it. I think those are his three best road games. Some may even mention the Tennessee game...very few yards, but he made some nice plays in pulling out a victory. ...we will need a very good Tyrod...regardless of his future here and regardless of anyone's current feelings on the man...if there is any hope of winning this weekend. I want the Bills to win this weekend, however unlikely that may be. My OT had three games where I thought he played well on the road. They show respectable yardage (277, 289, 291), TDs (3, twice through the air) and make affirmative comments ("ALL man", "loss...so what?" and "need yards and TDs in Foxborro"...like in the listed game).

Yeah, I kind of missed the part in my post where I said he is the QB of the future and we should rally behind him as he is the best option right now over Peterman, Webb, EJ, Yates, etc. because that part of the scenario is currently up in the air right now. I'll check again, though, just to be sure. ...yep, I didn't. I just went over it and it appears I just said what I thought were his three best games on the road as some inspiration ("possibly") heading into the weekend because regardless of the internet he is the starter for the Bills. Mainly this thread is also based upon the fact that Mr. Peabody and the Way Back Machine aren't around so that I could go and get a 32 year old Jim Kelly to play on Sunday or else this would be super easy...so...I mean...it's Tyrod on Sunday...on the road.

In honor of what we have facing us as Bills fans this week in New England, and what we have to overcome, what are the three best road games Tyrod Taylor has played to possibly give us some inspiration? In no particular order: @ KC, 11-29-15, L: yes, a loss but he threw for 291 (21-38) yards and had three TDs...we are going to need yards and TDs in Foxborro this weekend. @ Mia, 9-27-15, W: 21 of 29, for 277 yards and 3 tds...need I say more? @Seattle, 11-7-16, L: yeah, another loss...so what? He was ALL man in that game, 27-38 for 289, 1 TD, 1 pick, with 8 carries for 43 yards and 1 TD. There are other road games of note, even with less impressive stat lines than the above that I will leave to you guys to bring up.

Just FYI, all of you who said the Bengals are getting ridiculously easy up votes from me, whether your comments are good or not...but they've generally all been pretty good. Merry Christmas or "Happy Holidays" if you hate Christmas.

OK, but I still think the Cincy game. The jets are a much better team, regardless of the comparable records, than CIncy. It was a short week and we were going on the road to NY...tough order. AFC mark would still be 7-3 either way and I am not worried, even now, about Miami catching us even if they do because we'd still be toast at that point (they win second place at 8-8, so be it)...so divisional game really doesn't mean squat. EDIT: and if memory serves me, we were also winning for a brief period of time in the third or fourth quarter of the CIncy game. After the very first play of the Jets game I turned into every Star Wars character: "I got a bad feeling about this."

Respectfully, to the guys calling out the Jets game, were the Bills ever really in that game?

The above as Patrick Duffy and I were talking about in another thread.

Duff, somebody somewhere nationally (sports illustrated, espn? don't remember) during the pre-season, when no one was picking the Bills to do anything, said the bills 5th game of the season against Cincy may be the determining factor of whether they make it to the playoffs or not. Crazy if it ends up being true. Additionally, for those who think it is the same thing for any other loss I have to disagree. Cincy is the worst team we've played and lost to. Don't give me the Jets as they have been in almost ever game this season and they are a divisional opponent hungry for blood. Sure they could have beat Carolina on the road, but that is an NFC game and this just in, Carolina is pretty good this year. They had to just plain reach out and take the Cincy game, even with the injuries at that point (including Clay part of the way through the game) and if everything stays the exact same this is a dramatically different team with a 9-5 record (7-3 AFC record) heading into the last two weeks. Hell, we'd still be going for not only a shot at the division this weekend with 2 Patriot losses, but also a first round bye still on the table.

When Gaines missed the Cincy game (one that we sort of had to have considering the tire fire they are) I noticed how much our pass defense was hurting without him...and every time thereafter without him. he doesn't play I give them no chance. Throw in road Tyrod Taylor, a non-existent WR group, and no pass rush...I mean, come on guys. I love this team, but come on. i hope I am wrong. In the worst way I do.

And I know this may be a typical Bills fan small time thing for me to say, but this was my hope for the last few weeks...just to at least make it through and be in it on the final day of the season for the first time in 13 years. Yes, I want to make the playoffs...but to have every game truly matter throughout the season was a small victory I was going to be happy with at the start of this season.