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Tom, I am just kidding. My bad as I was going to continue on by saying that we need to call our probes back that show us in a 9 planet solar system...probably would have made my position more apparent. I posted here earlier with respect to Geno's position.

...and I will say this, science told me we were in a solar system with 9 planets until science told me we were in a solar system with 8 planets.

Keep your voodoo science to yourself, Poindexter. - ...this has just made me chuckle this morning. This is so ridiculous.

I don't doubt Pete's opinion on Esch in the OT. However, and I know this may be an unpopular position, but in the last couple of years I have honestly cooled on the whole idea of it being of utmost importance to have tremendous pass rushers. Don't get me wrong, I know they are "important"...but utmost? IMO, not necessarily during a time in the NFL when it appears that all QBs seem to be quickly getting rid of the ball, rushed or not. Additionally, they are usually very expensive after awhile. Maybe I've been spoiled lately in Buffalo/McBeantown, but give me a three down LB, a good CB (or rather a very stable dback group of 4) and a a man-eating DT before a pass-rushing DE.

I get ya on that, Chuck.

Chuck, respectfully less dollars is less dollars and sitting for a year is unlikely to help him going forward.

at mid-season if he signs anywhere for 2-3 million dollars and catches 4 balls a game he is getting great cash going forward in 2018. ...now he's just a guy who should some talent previously and was out of football in 2017.

He lost a year of his career. He lost a whole year of getting paid. Remarkable.

Maybe (and this is a big maybe TC, and pure fantasy speculation) Tyrod, Glenn, 21 and our second rounder and maybe something in 2019 for 4.

Just to be clear, BR, my thumbs up was for you and not necessarily for Barnwells' moves, which I agree are a little basic. You did a nice clean job with your disclosure, too.

I liked them while they were here and I absolutely don't miss them now that they are gone.

I truly thought at the time that when we moved up we were getting Wilson. I would not have taken him in the second round, but I thought he was good for the third...worried he would be gone in the fourth. I won't deny hindsight, but I also won't deny that even back then I am unfamiliar with any planet other than this one that would draft Graham over Wilson. Losman over Rothelisburger (with the opportunity) For those matters, Whitner over Ngata...I was visiting my friend in CT (a board member here) during that draft and we were just stunned when Ngata wasn't the pick. I don't think we spoke for about 30 seconds.

Nihilarian I gave you a thumbs up because I was high on Allen in the fall, then he dropped off, then I dropped off and now everyone's running from him, but I am coming back around. Yes, the completion percentage is a big issue, but if the Bills don't move up and he is there at 21 or 22 I'd really consider taking him.

I dig it. Let's bring the Payne! I love me some Alabama Defensive Linem.......oooooooohhhhhhhh, wait a minute.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Please no.

Annoyingly good point. The truth does hurt.

Yolo, no reason for anyone to believe me, but honestly, in the lead up to the draft I was thinking that I would have taken Wentz first overall if I were the Rams. ...this news is a little disturbing as I respect Mayock a bit.

Keep Fitz Move up in the third round draft Russell Wilson (a guy many of us liked in the third or fourth round) instead of taking Graham Wilson replaces Fitz towards the end of 2012 ...it would have been so easy. Would we get the same Wilson of today? I don't know and I don't care, the same way I didn't care in analyzing us NOT getting Big Ben in the draft.. We just plain would have been better...in both instances. No rocket science involved.

I got it, Sean, I just would have liked the Brad Pitt gif to go with it!

Tremendous, my friend! I haven't had that come up years here.

Gotta think outside the box, Reed.

Yeah, just saw: 2.9 yards per carry the last two years, and less than 1,000 total yards rushing. ...1,402 yards in 2015.

That, CB, is interesting. hmm. Didn't he have a little bit of a rough season this year?

I just got rid of it last week. Shady, I have a young child and there is only so much space on the DVR. I still have the victory of the Patriots at home, the home victory over the Vikings, the home victory over the Raiders (same year as the patriot victory), and both the re-broadcast and documentary of the comeback game. Throw in the 30 for 30s and documentaries on the Four Falls, the 1983 draft, Jim Kelly, as well as the NFL Network documentary on the Bills' SB years, plus the finish of the Bengals game this year and the local news stations covering the day the Bills ended the drought and the most recent Bills documentary "Playoff Caliber"...and...well, I think that's it.

It honestly would be a shame, given how good he has been over the course of his career, if Bree's only got to the Super Bowl once. Yes, his cap number is high and it probably has been hard onNew Orleans over the years. However, the Saints have been more fortunate to have him than the other way around.