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Edmunds, Mack, Tre, Kyle, Hyde, Poyer, Harry, Star, and eventually Murphy... ... ... ...I need to sit down for a bit.

With the exception of the one playoff season (2002) and a 10 win season (2007) over the last 22 or so years they've suffered worse. They lost their team and were without football for 3 years. Their first overall pick in '99 was a wwwwwhhhhiiff (Couch)...oh, unless you think they ruined him. A number of first round picks in recent years who should be on this team are almost all gone because they shouldn't be on their team in the first place (we have one of them). Second 0-16 team in NFL history. Their 1-31 is the worst 32 games in NFL history. Their record in 19 years since returning to the league is 88-216 (4.63 wins per year). The Bills over that same stretch are 132-172 (6.94 wins per year), not infinitely better, but better.

I knew when I chuckled at Jay up above that Royale wasn't far behind. I enjoy you guys enough to feel comfortable borrowing money from you.

Chris: "If you ruin your rookie QB 4 games into his rookie season, then he is not your QB." I continue to love Chris Simms and the plain speak/common sense of his comments.

No, no, no. Different Benoit. Let's be clear.

Astro Notes.

Ya know I like Holmes. However, he BETTER be valuable as a special teamer in 2018, because I truly don't have him in my top 6 receivers as far first through third down.

Cool

With this I can live with them being 2-2 at the quarter pole. Big win for this team and reason for optimism about staying in the playoff hunt.

Oh boy...that is too bad.

Is is there any consideration that they did? I've been curious about this, too.

Respectfully, your post is out of context with what has been going on with Zay since he returned to the field. His seriousness to the position, work ethic and performance has made him, even now at this late stage, one of the surprises of camp according to Sal. Additioanlly, he apparently has also been working continually with the ones, which tells you what the coaches think of him.

If you would have told me three years ago, Juice, that the smartest guys in QBing in 2018 would be Jordan Palmer and Dan Orlofsky I’d have called you nuts. ...three years ago.

Your post above so far has 32 varied up votes, including one from me. Bravo, my friend, for nailing it simply and directly.

It's weird to up vote bad news, but I know you get what I mean when doing it, PT!

Royale, in my older brothers day he had worse than I did. I never complained. None of us could. We just had to take it...if we wanted to be men. MB, pee-wee football is back more now than I ever noticed it before. Part of why I notice it is because I witnessed at parks, late in the fall, practices seemingly going on until almost 9 o'clock at night. I turn to tell my wife, "you gotta be kidding me?!" I've also seen videos, I think one may have been from HBO's Real Sports, where kids in pee-wee get their bell rung by another kid and the coaches are laughing and high-fiving it.

I knows it's not college and I know it is tangential, but Dave back more than 30 years ago in high school they would actually call you a baby and p***y if you were thirsty during double sessions. You had to beg for water and you were looked down upon for doing so. If you didn't want any part of that you weren't a man. ...ridiculous.

About 10.7 million right now, 16th most cap space I. The league, but they usually like to keep a buffer, and there could be cut down day signings. good question, but I would image if they want him bade enough they could make something work. Guaranties and such. Edit: my bad, 11.2 million, still 16th though.

It is his turn.

Shouldn't he start because it's his turn? Not to be overly simplistic about it, but it makes sense. Then just throw in the fact that he has been playing well.

However, we do know that something is wrong and his practice in the three weeks before the start of the season would appear to be limited, at best. If this were Jim Kelly I would have no problem with him practicing just the week before the start of the season. However, to miss let's say even just two weeks now...no way do I let him start against Baltimore, unless Peterman and Allen take tremendous steps backwards.

Yolo, to be honest with you if they wanted to keep their privacy a bit longer I don't find a single thing wrong with her coming out and saying, "my husband got a multi-million dollar contract and I've been celebrating with wings and bon-bons." ...I, for one, would not judge her for that or give it a second thought.

Thank you, Inigo (btw, love the avatar...one of my all time favorites). Additionally, don't get me wrong. I believe in Allen, but there is a little bit of queasiness about throwing the kid out there. I will say this, what I didn't mention above is that there is a bit of "Trust the process" in my opinion. In other words, if they don't put him out there then I trust that they just think he needs a bit more time.

That's awesome for them. I missed that announcement.