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...or at least one that has better minor league prospects or minor league organization. Junior aside Buffalo and their stadium still are the jewel of the minor leagues and since Cleveland let Buffalo go, wherein they had 8 playoff appearances in their first 10 years together, Buffalo has now missed the post season 13 years in a row (3 with Cleveland, 4 with the Mets, 6 with the Blue Jays). Additionally, year 14 is off to a shaky start. I know proximity is important, but it is very frustrating that we can't hook up with somebody that has a reasonably run minor league program. 13, soon to be 14 years is a ridiculous time to go without a post season bid, but more directly, not to have a competitive team in Triple A. Only 3 times during this stretch have they won 75 or more games, not once have they won 80 and they have never finished in 2nd during this stretch.

So, and just speculating here: IF this is true, could we see a Jonah Williams at 9 and N'Keal Harris at 40?

171 grabs in 4 years, and a career 4.0 rusher...yeah, if you are a mid-round RB hoping the Bills will draft you...maybe you should be thinking about another team.

Come on, Punt, you know they can. They will draft one next weekend, but truthfully they can even wait until next year. You just plain don’t need to prep RBs in the nfl like you do other positions.

@Inigo Montoya Great OT, Inigo. 7 out of 10, as you say, which I believe is 4 linemen, 2 WR and a tight end. However, I’d like to throw in the 5th olinemen, Dawkins and his renewed commitment to being a better player instead of just succumbing to the inertia of being a pro. As well I am going to mentione Zay/Foster as the situational third receiver and their expected growth, and finally Shady, a man who is making a push for the hall of fame and still has juice left in the tank. I just think there are way to many positives, as opposed to last year, that are beneficial to Allen to think that he would have a sophomore slump...actually, I think they may be better at every position this year on O...crazy.

Oh please. Spiders are more afraid of us than we are of F#)$$($(&($$*#*#*@&@*%%-=#*#(#)#(#($($($*shshs!!!!###K, WHAT THE HELL IS THAT THING?!

I absolutely cannot be the only one here who is tired of everything Gettleman says and would be perfectly OK if he took up communicating in French.

From my very first chance I quickly went through it and initially got to 9-7, which includes 2 losses to NE, as well as a loss to Pitt, among others.

The first game should be Buffalo vs Chicago (Green Bay was an independent in 1919) if for no other reason than we can get the Bulls**t screw job we took on the title in '20 and '21 out of the way and make those Halas babies cry. ...want it at Soldier field?! FINE, YOU'RE ON!!! EDIT: If the schedule disadvantage is now coming up from the last decade, and we have the likes of "No goal" and "The Music City Miracle" on our backs I wish someone would actually do a story how Halas did us in, not only in the early 20s, but in 1950 when he stopped the Buffalo Bills of the All American Football Conference from getting in the NFL.

One additional note that I hope doesn't get lost: This is why I want my owner to be super rich. They are not going to make the same amount of money off this team the way other owners do with their teams, and therefore they are not going to have that extra income stream to pour back in the team. Tired and gone are the days of having an owner (respectfully to hockey and Ralph) that has 80-90% of their worth tied up in the team. I am likely in the minority, but I really don't want the Pegulas shelling out more than a billion dollars on a stadium...and then...well done, that's it, no more. BTW, where is your $50,000 PSL Bills fans? I'll always love this team, but maybe more importantly I want the players to love playing here and appreciate what they have because of the thought and care that went into the nice touches.

I don't have a link, but I also read that they have a new hyperbole chamber that is simply the best one that has ever existed.

Solid points, BRD, but Gore is a tough back even at his age and I think they honestly brought him in for tough yards and leadership.

Boy, MJS, I need my relief pitcher to do something, especially one the caliber of Gore. If I had Nolan Ryan in his last couple of years i wouldn't just sit him. Allen could do 700 and I don't have as big a problem with him doing it as some. I just don't think the coaches are going to let that happen.

Forgive me for I am one of those glass half filled guys. I honestly believe it will be a bounce back year for Shady given the line improvements and I think Gore brings so much more to the table than just his 15,000 yards rushing. I have trouble wrapping my head around the idea that we may have two Hall of Fame RBs on our team at the same time, so forgive me if my rose colored Bills glasses stay on. I will say this, though, if your name gets mentioned with the phrase "Hall of Fame", I doubt when an opportunity presents itself to move the needle forward for you or your team that you are the type that is going to shrink from that responsibility. That said I reasonably think and hope that we get 1,600 yards from Shady and Frank. I don't really care how you break it down, but I can imagine a 900-950 Shady and a 650-700 Gore. I am not going to be the guy that crazily says we have two -thousand yard backs here because I just don't see that happening and I think the above would be acceptable with most Bills fans. After that give me 480 from Allen this year. A step down, but still a good sum given his skills and with a likely step back that Bills' coaches probably would like to see. As well, give me 10 yards per game from some other source. All said that is 140 yards per game, which would have been 2nd in the NFL last year (Dallas was 2nd with a 139.something). I would love it if it were more, but if your team is banging out 140 yards rushing in any way shape or form I think it sets up nicely for a hopefully and potentially balanced offense. ...don't get me started on a potential 3,600 yard passing season (the combined yards would put us 15th in O if it were 2018). Your thoughts?

Great analysis, Shaw, as usual. So, in a way I guess we are looking for those guys at a position of need for the Bills in the 20s which talent at that position drops of precipitously after that guy is drafted.

I wish we could double emoji as you would have gotten a beer thanks, as well.

wait, Shady...so, in other words, this wasn't our imagination? The thing we all said was a real thing and not fair turned out to be a real thing and not fair even though common sense would tell any upright walking sloth that this was: a) a real thing; and b) not f***ing fair.

@IgotBILLStopay Igots has mean on this Q. WIlliams trade up thing so much that I can't think about anything else. Stupid attractive draft nuisance enticing Igots. Yeah, I would like the above for what it does to our D, especially over the next 4-5 years (Williams, Star, Phillips). However, If it doesn't happen I am a big fan of trading what we need to get two in the top 32. However, I don't necessarily want to trade back and then use some capital to trade back in. I like the potential pick at 9. I'd rather have 9 and 20 something rather than teens, 20 something a little extra capital later on. I want those first two picks to just plain start.

Shaw! Players love Buffalo. It's a no brainer he would sign here. *sits and waits for both sides*

One of our board members linked to a great article about how teammates of Wilson's were more than a bit disgruntled and how the coaching staff and whole organization caters to Wilson...almost like a a softer precursor to Dunne's article on Rogers. ...that said, man, Russell does bring it.

Yeah, but the thing is my original post was about a number of guys that I like are potentially going to be cut...that hasn't changed with whether we trade for draft picks or whether the coaches get to see it instead of me.

It’s just that I don’t think the preseason gives that much of a taste. They’ll do it in practice, but not many of us will see it.

@IgotBILLStopay I haven’t considered him him this whole draft season as I always thought he was out of reach. Additionally, even though we’ve filled a number of holes, we still have others to fill. All that said I believe I am with you on this, and I would give up a quite bit to do it. With this move I think an already good/great defense becomes an absolute mess for opposing offenses to play against.

Absolutely true. However, don’t you like to play with new toys first and then eventually get bored and pass them on?

Jeepers freaking creepers, in August this team is going to end up cutting guys I like quite a bit.