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Bodine and Vlad were two of our starters last year, and our two other starters are gone. AND it was an admitted bad sophomore resting on his laurels year for Dawkins (hmmm, I wonder why). I’ll say it ad nausea: our line was way worse than how bad we thought it was.

I will be a broken record on this: as bad as anyone thought the Oline was last year they were actual much, much worse. I believe they got too much credit in some situations where they didn’t deserve it.

Let me guess, it was also 2 pm in the afternoon. No...color me surprised.

No, I think it just gets you back Up tackle, should they like Ford at G. Teller might be the number 2 back up guard, if your starters are Dawkins, Spain, Morris, Ford, and Nsehke (sorry if I spelled it wrong). So, with Feliciano as the back up center, Teller and Long the back up guards, and somebody showing something as the swing tackle, that group of nine might be it. plus you could always put long at back up center should Morris go down, and if anything happens to nsehke, Ford goes to tackle and long comes in. Then if anything happens to Dawkins this new kid could sub there, or bring nsehke over and put the kid at RT. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU HATE THIS OFFENSIVE LINE BECAUSE YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN THAT TO ME. ?? EDIT: I know I am the only one who does this, but whenever I think of feliciano his name in my head is always to the melody of Feliz Navidad. Feli Ci Ano. Feli Ci Ano!

Limeaid, you got that pretty darn right. ridiculous, and the players go along with it, plus complain about safety measures on tackling.

John, seriously I would be surprised if they cut him. Remember the old days when you could develop a linemen. I think this kid will be ready to fully step in and dominate in 2020, while serving as great relief in 2019.

Pathetic. Man, besides the potential of Boettger who ended up on the practice squad for awhile last year, its ridiculous Dawkins and Teller are the only two quality lineman carrying over...and Teller doesn't even start?! Again, as before, that is ridiculous. AND we know Dawkins had a down year, which I think was rectified the moment he gave that interview after the season saying tha he has to be more committed and better, and it is showing. I will stand by what I have said here and other places: As bad as you think last years offense line was last year it was much, much worse. "well, well, they made some plays and protected Allen well at times." Too rarely did they make plays and even when Josh got passes over you could not only see the pocket collapsing, but collapsing in awkward fashion. Tell me you don't watch other teams around the league, even teams worse than us, and notice the general form when a pocket collapses. With the Bills it is normally a jail break collapse. That's why it was so frustrating after the miami game last year to hear Chris and Mike on GR talk about Allen leaving he pocket too early...he left just as the s*** was hitting the fan, and had he stayed without any options that would have been it. That play was kept alive because of Allen, not in spite of him and he just got gassed in the Florida heat when he threw it. They were simply terrible, and sometimes even terrible in games they won. Thank you defense.

I have no problem with Nsheke as I thought he might take the job when we signed him. However, I would love Ford to get that spot, too, if for no other reason that we are now short at back-up T. I know, I know, 6 or one half dozen. However, I was just counting on Ford being the tackle and if anything happens to Dawkins or Ford, Nsheke goes in. We are a little deeper at guard than we are at T, and now we have our T draft pick going in at G. Which, honestly, that is fine if he is good, but again we are thin at T.

Do you think he slipped into the sophomore slump, like Dion did last year? Maybe believing too much n the hype of his second half last year ad not enough work ad focus now.

Love you, man!

Has no on brought up the fact that teef has been in concussion protocol since the 1993 AFC Championship game and he is none the worse for wear?

I can't help but love the s*** sandwich we are usually forced to eat as opposed to other parts of the country, time after time, because...you know, we are Buffalo. The above, and arguable some of the highest electric bills in the country while being right next to Niagara Falls, or being (I believe) having the last numbered designated stretch of thruway in New York (190, 290, 390 etc., not the 90 itself) to have tolls on it on the waterfront until someone said, "why the F do we have to pay this" and NY gov't officials shuffled their feet and pretended they had a reasonable answer. People wonder where that chip on our shoulder came from. Sorry. This won't last long. Reasoned or not I am just "in that place" right now. EDIT: Let me chase it with this...how many NFL cities are now left without CBS on directv? Buffalo, Cincy and Cleveland? Look at those three. it figures, if so.

It's weird that part of his wish was to get traded for an undisclosed draft pick. That's some pretty specific mojo going on there. EDIT: Lined it out because other than my stupid joke this is a pretty solid thread and I didn't want to spoil it.

Come on, Gugny, you are just saying that because you are too scared to come out and say that Allen's knee might explode this preseason. Admit it.

Indeed, seriously, we knew this. However, I will still take EJ for 8 games a year then some mediocre other back up for 16. Again, and I know you can’t directly correlate it to him, but the Bills were 8-3 with him in 2017 and 1-4 without him. EDIT: For some reason, although not necessarily a too unknown reason, that mix of Micah, Jordan, EJ and Tre was something together in 2017.

Youch. That'll leave a mark.

Just plain Line of The Day contender.

Absolutely no lie...this. Man, we are already seeing it directly in camp. This stinks. Please get better soon M&M. EDIT: @LBSeeBallLBGetBall and, LB, I know I am being master of the obvious, but holy cow Bodine almost isn't even in the same league.

Ya know, Yolo, and I know I am sort of stating the obvious here, but given Jerrah's comments over the weekend (or rather his son's, maybe) about not wanting to "set the market" with Zeke we truly do live in a football world (as we have for a number of years now) where RBs are important, but they are not demonstrative for teams' success and as such are just not going to be paid like they were. Meaning? Give me an offensive line that averages over 6 million dollars for five guys (just as a mark of talent, per se) and then let me have a 2-4 million RB to play behind them. ...maybe even 2 RBs for a total of 4 million and a half million dollar rookie. Interesting conversation about part of this when Sal was on with Howard and Jeremy.

Please, please, please let it be that they think he is fantastic, but they were hoping to go in a more mediocre direction for 2019.

Look, I know she doesn't need the money. However, earning her first championship and winning $43,000 in her chosen vocation...that's pretty sweet.

That blows. Sorry, man. Man, somebody has got to give us a heads up on this. I’ve had people over for the last 4 years now on opening day and, as situated, it really is not convenient to run an antenna. 75” tv, with the center of it about 9 feet off the ground and 10-12 feet away from a window and pretty damn tricky to try and suspend a line.

I miss those days. 2k...blitz...989...and Madden...seriously, even after all these years the exclusive deal stinks and although people blame EA it was actually the nfl that wanted. it hasn’t helped their league at all. Congrats on saving time on scanning players images.

Big C, I know they say that and I know we back them up on it, but I honestly can see it where the Bills are 6-2 in real life, maybe 2nd or 3rd in the conference and their preseason rating of 77 surging all the way up...to 80. That’s the problem. It makes it a difficult purchase for the casual player, and I know we can adjust the ratings, even a bit in franchise, but still. 2 things I’ve wanted for years and know we won’t get: 1. A simple, straight forward franchise where you can play the 2019 season, over and over again without jumping through hoops, and 2. Full user controlled and adjustable view of the field, with ball tracking on passes, like 2k did so well all those years ago. That’s not a “madden vs 2k” thing, rather a just plain “steal the good idea already” thing.

Big whup. I am below average at much more than two things.