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One day we will find a way to defeat our large go cart overlords. Until then we just have to remain vigilant.

I didn’t read through this entire thread To see if any one posted this. although this regime was the one that cut him I remembering reading articles where McDermott and staff were quoted about being very impressed with his work ethic. it has been a tough road for him after his issues in college, but I like seeing that the kid got some years in, and some money out of, the nfl.

Although likely not mathematically a loss to the Bills essentially ends the Broncos season, all the while they get to swallow ash in playing out the five game remainder of their season. ...would love it if it were Allen they remember as the one who finished them off and made their late November and December utterly worthless.

Anything that keeps the division still in play AND takes some of the pressure off our next opponent is a good thing. It absolutely is the Cowboys all the way. Why do I have the feeling that he makes a nice recovery in time to place the Bills on Thursday? ?

Jay will you get off Hauschka's back?! It's not easy making 9 extra points.

Kiss me your glorious and wonderful fool!* (* please be a woman, please be a woman, please be a woman)

The woman is carrying your child...your child... ...and she is a woman... ...who is pregnant with your baby. How can your hand go back and forth against her face...hard...or at all? She was probably screaming and crying, too, but I guess the fear in her voice and pain in her noises didn't do the trick for you. With my changes below... "The Dolphins are now likely in the market for a new lead running back starting in 2020. Widley Snipper-Bow has assumed that role in Walton's absence with little success, averaging just 1.9 yards per carry. Channing McDoodle Snack and Chester Chesterton have received limited reps behind Ballage. The trio, along with Gutteral Delancy, will carry the load for the rest of the season." It literally doesn't change the impact of the story, whatsoever. I know none of those backs, but at least my names are interesting.

Wouldn't it be great if Ford popped the living s*** out of Von Miller on a highlight reel play this weekend? That is not anything against Miller as I like him. However, what a great tone setter that would be.

DK would be doing nasty, nasty, nasty things to dbs playing against this team. funny as we really need Ford right now, but que my inner Homer drooling noise now at the idea of dk. whew, honestly thank you for correcting me, Colorado. i was Squamish thinking about this. 1 loss and we are in that much trouble?! glad I was off the mark a bit. yes, it is a big game, but seriously thank you for the corrected info.

Joe, please might I also add that he needs help in the draft and in FAs...that isn't just him, Joe...EVERY QB IN HIS scenario on this team would need more help. No disrespect to some of the guys we have now. Just more. 1 WR, 2 more Oline, and another RB. That would be a nice menu in my book for 2020..

Joe, even in the best light given the above he only comes close. First, do I want him to do what you are saying? Hell yes, and I will take that! are you kidding, 25 tds...GREAT. However, you are going right to my very point...that is WE NEED HIM TO DO THAT FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR AGAINST TOUGHER COMPETITION. We are on the same page! Secondly, if he does that, and doesn't throw ANY picks for the rest of the season he ends up at 48-26, with Rushing TDs. It isn't the same as 52-19 (55-19 with Wilson's rushing TDS)...but this is all tangential to the main point. Hypothetically and out of thin air not based on too much...If the Bills go 3-3 and Allen has 10 tds and 4 picks and generally looks good, I am probably good with that, especially if 10-6 gets them in the playoffs. Before the season I may have thrown out 24 tds and 14 picks as a goal for him, with 30 tds total as a nice progression. The above scenario: 23 passing tds, 13 picks and lets throw on at least 1 more rushing tds for 32 tds total...I love it. ...but give me your numbers, which I think aren't just good but significant. Give me 12 tds, maybe just 2 picks and 4-2 with an upset victory on his shoulders and damn...25 tds, 9 picks, 34 tds total and 11-5...Joe HE IS that franchise QB then. He is in the numbers range of Wilson, year 2, albeit with many more rushing tds). ...he just has to do what you are saying or hoping is going to do, and I for one really want him to do it. What you're saying isn't a "nice progression" or "pleasantly pleasing" as we are all prone to say. Finishing with 22 passing tds over a 10 plus game period with 2 ints really is a franchise qb.

Wilson IS at a differently level right now, but respectfully the guy threw 52 TDs in his first 2 seasons, with 19 picks and a QBR of over 100. That is for both seasons. He stat line is very similar (26-10 year 1 with a 100 rating and 26-9 year 2 with a 101.2 rating). I have yet to attach "sub par" with any post here that I have made. He also is more advanced than what even I though he would be at this point, too. I am with you on that. However, I want more. We need more. Other guys are doing more. The guys who aren't doing more, Rosen and Darnold, I don't give a crap about. I want Allen to progress as much as he can and as quickly as he can to keep up with the Jackson's of this League as well as the Mahomes'. Please, I just ask you to note what I am writing and not trying to read between the lines. I am not disappointed with Allen, but I want to see more and with the way the League is I am asking, and hoping, to see more. After Miami, game 1, the first seeds of doubt entered my thoughts. however, he has been much better... ...but I want him to be great...consistently...and soon. Because he'll need to be. Side note, which should not be under estimated: If the Bills get upset by the Broncos and the Raiders and Texans win, the Bills will already be out of the the last playoff spot by next Sunday at about 4:30. The Raiders, out of the playoff picture right now, play one single team with a winning record from here on out. The Bills' schedule is obviously more difficult. We need Allen great, as great as he can be, and soon as he can do it.

...yet I still want it, because I see it from so called franchise QBs and that is the goal. Great Goff had 173 yards and won against an increasingly terrible team like the Bears, and that was just yesterday. I wouldn't take him over Allen right now. I want a Russell Wilson. That's what I want. That's what I want him to be. Our other warts be damned when we have that, but that is what I want. It is not ignorant to want the potential of a franchise QB. It is not ignorant to hope for Bills fans chanting "MVP" like they do for Jackson in Baltimore ( a guy drafted further down the list) and have it be a real thing. It is what I want and it is what I still think OUR QB might be able to do. ...I just need to see it.

This is such a great post, Hap, that I really can't find anything to debate with you on. ...wins are wins, and yes I would take 12-10 against the Cowboys on Thanksgiving. I honestly think Beasely can still have a record setting year (I believe he is at 42 receptions, and would need 24 more, but I could be wrong). John Brown will set his career mark. Note to potential FA WRs in 2020...Buffalo may be a landing spot for you. What we can all say in earnest is that Josh Allen is still going to need more help. We really do need a number 1, or rather a 1A over Brown next year and we really do need a couple of more permanent answers on the Oline and...not done yet...after Gore (what I mean is after gore either retires or leaves) we really need another RB option next year. Maybe the rugby young man, FA or a draft pick.

Great point, Hap. Man...I am treading on this lightly, even as I did in my earlier post. I want THIS kid to succeed, and he is playing well. Boy, I would just love to see him get "tested" in a game and show up with flying colors. He's proved he can do comebacks. He's proved he can prevent turning the ball over. He's proved he can increase his completion percentage. He's proved he can throw TDs, long and short. I just need him to prove all that against better competition, WHEN given the opportunity. I would so love to see yesterday's tally on Thanksgiving Day. Go BILLS, GO ALLEN!

I am an Allen guy. I am. I have been one from the day we drafted him. I only started to not give him a pass during the first Miami game this year. However, what I would love to see next week, against a good Denver D, is a similar game...Sort of similar. If he throws for 250, 2 tds, and no picks and completes 60% of his passes in a win (even if it is a 27-24 Bills win) I think that will show us a lot, or at the very least a nice progression against a good D. A 14-10 victory (good Bills D) and the excuse of, "Well, they didn't need him to throw for more than 170 yards in a game like this.", won't cut it for me. Of course I will take the win. It is just I am looking for the progression of a "franchise QB"...because I believe we are looking for a franchise QB.

That was so very easy that if I were the Browns I would feel 10 feet tall and bullet proof. outstandingly poor. Congrats.

I can eat a whole large pizza in one sitting. I think I can eat a whole large pizza in one sitting. ...can anyone buy me a whole large pizza so we can see if I can eat it in one sitting? You know how people use the saying "keep them in a bubble" usually meant to keep someone safe? Well, I wish we could sign AB a put him in a bubble for the purposes of keeping everyone on the team, in the organization and in humanity in general, safe from him. If there was little or no contact with him as a person other than Xs and Os we may actually be on to something. No interviews...ever. No nothing other than paying him and his play. Then he goes home. ... ... I'm sorry. I went to my happy place for a couple of seconds. Please PM about the pizza thing.

At the end of this year I believe they can starting talking to Milano (5th round pick, 4 years total and it will be the end of his 3rd year after the Super Bowl). ...I would start talking to his agent whenever they can start talking to his agent.

Was up early at the office working and I was listening to ESPN radio overnight (forget who) and after Gruden's win last night they were giving him credit for his coaching job so far this year. That was fair enough. Then they went through about 6-7 other coaches, some rookies (Packers coach) among them and saying what good jobs they've been doing. ...noooooo mention of a guy who equaled his teams win total from last year only half way through the season and who, in ESPN's preseason estimation, was on the hottest seat in football.

A Bills over Browns on the road 1990 type of victory...although it doesn't have to be 42-0, but I wouldn't argue with that outcome. Jets and Dolphins keep winning as they are not going to hurt us from here on out against other teams, also they can actually help us with playoff position, makes our schedule look a little more difficult, and most importantly, it might keep Adam Gase in New York.

I've said this so many times over the course of the season: the Bills most egregious sin in 2019 is that they are not a good fantasy team. They used to sing songs about the Bears defense in the 80s. However, in this day and age while watching a game with a large group of people you look around and see almost 90% of them are looking down at their phones, sometimes while a play is going on...and well...you kind of know your time has come and gone. Therefore and honestly, in this day and age the Bills aren't overlooked because of their easy schedule and "sometimes" offense, they are overlooked because they don't mean anything points wise to the "Three Lards And A Cloud Of Buds" team in their keeper league at ACME, Inc. ...their offense does need to score more, though.

Please, BBG, never once thought that you were crapping on the thread. Both of your posts were really good, my friend. I will stress this about Fitzy, I also said this in an earlier thread and here as well...I would love to see the guy give up on being the number 1 guy and go to a place (if there is some successful team willing to take him) where the team is really good. Agreed that the QB elevates the team, and sometimes he did, and man sometimes he didn't. I am about to commit sacrilege here...Frank Reich was so good when he played on the 80s and 90s Bills teams and when he wasn't...man...he just didn't elevate anything in Carolina. ...I would like to see Fitzy in that situation as back up, just once, out of no other reason than I am just really curious to see it. What if he had to come in for a game for New Orleans? He is no Teddy Bridgewater and if forced to play a number of games wouldn't have similar success. ...but it would be interesting to see because, frankly, we've never seen it.

The thing is also, teef, when he goes on the run he throws some beautiful balls, too. Yes some duds, but man I love watching the replays of some of these throws he's making (completed or not) when he giddy-ups*. *Intentional Western or "Buffalo Bill" reference.

HUDS, I am such a terrible fan. As maybe you are the only person around here who would notice my absence, other than the Board members I owe money (SDS is killing me on the membership fees here...I didn't even know there were any!), it is obvious that I disappear after losses. I just don't like focusing on them or talking about them after losses or bad games. There is nothing I can do about it and it doesn't bring me any joy so I just do other things during the week. ...like the lost art of macrame.