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8 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said:
Oh, oh, something just happened in my pants.
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Just now, ScorpionZero said:
I like that very much, Smith is perfect at that spot. Very athletic for his size, just needs the proper coaching and motivation.
Like Latu getting poopooed and falling to us, maybe the same will work for us with Smith...( bit of an injury history etc.)
Can you imagine getting Latu, Sweat and Smith? Young , solid core of intimidating DLine for years.
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8 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said:
I really like Robinson as an inside/out player. End on early downs, inside on passing downs. The problem being as with all McDermott picks he'll have to earn his time, so drafting him that early means he'll make the team but his contribution year one, will be light.
This is where I like Maason Smith. 6'6" 315 can play anywhere and draws comps. to Calais Campbell. Could also have some Chris Jones to him. If we can get him at 128?
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I'm thinking DL or WR rd. 1 barring a trade back. I can't see them moving up more than 4 picks if at all. That being said, I think Thomas is out by late teens.
Mitchell and Worthy not long after. Would they go with Legette given the one yr. production and knowing he's be pretty much 30 by 2nd contract time?
Would they value McConkey enough for the 5 yr. deal?
As far as DL goes, I like Murphy and Newton, but why go 3 tech there? If they can go to 24 or 26 and get a game wrecking Latu for a 2 yr. old injury discount, it's Christmas in April. They can find 2 WRs a little later.
We need to hit on DE, DT and at least one WR. Latu , McConkey, Sweat and Walker. Call me happy. BB will have to wheel and deal and I think he will.
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4 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:
Why would that be dumb? Premium position, some 1st round prospects, need likely next year.
I really don’t understand the fear of CB in the first round- and we hear it every year at draft time. It is a passing dominated league, somebody needs to cover receivers- hopefully well.
I am not arguing that they should take a CB in the first, but if they do it would not be like taking a RB or S or LB in the first- those positions have somewhat lesser value based on how the league pays them.
I shouldn't have said Dumb. If they took Q.Mitchell, I'd understand for sure...if for some reason, he made it to us. That guy's got all pro stank.
I'd prefer Latu. Not expecting Thomas to even get close.
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Walker will be the next Jaylen Waddle. ..or more. My picks are:
Trade a 4th to Tb for 26 or even 4th and whatever to Jerry for 24. Get Latu ( given that Thomas jr. is long gone.) We need another Bruce and this guy is a cross between a Bosa and Seau. NFL.com comparison is T.J. Watt. Perfect, since Miller will be out next year. ....and we replace Floyd all in one shot.
Trade next years 1st for a 2nd and 3rd this year, get Sweat 2 WRs and Maason Smith....the next Calais Campbell. BPA after.
Give me Burton and Walker...or Legette and Walker or Polk and Walker, IDC.
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25 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:
Well, let's hope so.
Hold my beer....Kaiir Elam
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1 hour ago, Dr. Who said:
Latu might fall because of the injury concern, though I share that concern.
I mostly have a different list at WR. I like Thomas, Mitchell, Legette, and then I like McConkey, who isn't an X, though he can play outside. I am biased, because an UGA fan, but I think he is going to be better than many imagine. I like Polk and Baker the best from the rest of your selections. I've said a few times here that I am afraid McD is going to rush the podium to select Cooper Dejean. Newton is the only fella that could fall to #28 that I wouldn't blame them for taking, though I strongly favor WR.
CB in the 1st would make me queezy for sure...uggh...even McD can't be that dumb.
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1 hour ago, Dr. Who said:
So, he has to play where Kincaid plays most of the time? I don't think I like that.
I wish Odunze would fall far enough to make a play for him. (I presume he is WR3.)
I'd gamble on Thomas' traits, but even he is probably out of reach.
I think Legette is the next best play at WR that is likely to be there at #28, but I think Franklin might be their pick.
Read an article comparing Franklin to Diggs. And Worthy might be an option, but neither of them is a big X.
Gimme Legette, Polk, Burton, Walker, Baker...etc. I'm gonna put my confidence in the FO. Wouldn't be surprised Brady gets Thomas nor surprised at McD getting Latu. Hoping for the latter myself.
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1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said:
please refrain from using BB as an acronym.
I get anxiety
Thought you might be a closet Patriots fan. Yes I know he doesnt coach them any more !
Feel my trauma.
We talk about trading a 1st to get something key this year
Honestly I just dont have that much faith in the organization yet for trading ahead.
Trading around , sure , Have to since IMO
But Buffalo Bills lol
Should be able to grab two players of influence this year , will make plays coming season. Hoping for some real developmental gems in later rounds (11) picks
I agree McBeanes wants two second round picks. I think that depends on where they stand by the time pick for #27 comes in lol
But can we keep our next years first please ?
How's this? BRANDON BEANE will get us 4 picks within the 1st 100. Latu, Sweat and two WRs...it shall Beane.
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20 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:
He’s a precise route runner who can take the top off of a defense. Has great acceleration and changes up his speeds on routes making him deceptive.
He’s obviously thin and I worry about press on him in the NFL but he did fine with it in college. He’ll also have to expand his route tree as well so he is not an immediate guy and may never be a true # 1 but he’ll be a really high end 2 or low level 1 in the NFL and I can live with that at the end of round 1.
People on this board expect 1,000 yards rookie year and it’s not going to happen. Diggs, Cook, Kincaid are gonna get the bulk with Shakir, Samuels, Knox getting their share as well.
If we get 40-50 catches for 700 yards I’ll consider that a win for any rookie we decide to draft
Which is why we need to get Latu 1st. I'm gonna trust BB to get a good complimentary duo of WRs. I could go with several options. I gotta stop re-reading all the profiles and just relax til the draft. I would bet money BB will create at least 2 additional picks for day 2. I would gladly use next yrs. 1st.
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14 hours ago, Rigotz said:
Where did I say it was Morse?
Do me a favor. Keep an open mind. Watch the last drive, starting at 6:40:
1st play -- 6:40 -- McGovern stonewalled. Morse chips NOBODY and immediately moves to the 2nd level. It's the miscommunication we heard about all season between McGovern and Morse.
2nd play -- 7:42 -- Yes, Dawkins left on and island against Jones. McGovern singled inside. O'Cyrus stays inside to help who? Morse. For those who understand the intricacies of O-Line play... you NEVER want Dawkins singled up on a player like Jones on a passing down. You want McGovern to slide protection left and confidence in Morse to handle his own on the interior. They didn't do that. Why do you think that is?
3rd play -- 8:27 -- Right Tackle and Right Guard singled up. Help on Morse's side again. Morse holds his block (with help), but the right side gets blown up on singles, forcing Josh to roll right and throw the ball away.
Center was the weak link last year. You can see this every game. We cut Morse and he signed for $5M/yr by the Jags, who are overpaying everyone.
Feel free to argue that Center isn't important, but the money tells you the value of what we had and why we made a change.
I agree and heard quite a bit of talk about the communication issue. I also believe Edwards is actually a better LG than McGovern. Running left this year is gonna be bread and butter. Also, I think Cyrus is gonna become dominant thanks to the schooling he got from the likes of Wilkins.
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When we land Latu, Sweat and Maason Smith, we'll forget about Reddick. He's due for an injury. I really wanted Huff.
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1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
Legette looks like a monster
Like an Eric Moulds
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11 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
Seems like they are working backwards. See who they like later and would be content in selecting at that point and leave the higher picks open to what they take. I think normally they have early rounders in later in the process as well.
Only 2 picks in the top 127 could be why and that really sucks.
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6 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:
or a Safety? I'm beginning to think the hole there could be solved by bringing Hyde back next year.
There's also been talk about Simmons being available post draft. I wouldn't mind Hyde back. I do however think we can find 2 quality prospects later in the draft...hopefully.
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1 hour ago, HappyDays said:
I have warmed up to Mitchell. I'm not sure he has a single elite trait but his all around package plus his combine numbers make me think there is upside there to be a true #1. The only thing is I don't know if he'll be on our board if the reported work ethic/football character issues are true. That is one factor that the Bills have simply not been willing to look past.
If this looks to be a thing he won't be the pick. I like Bleacher Report scouting reports and one thing I like to look for is the comments that the prospect looks to make himself available to the QB. To me that is a must have work ethic.
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1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said:
But are they willing to drop down to 44 and miss out on their WR. If they are open to DT as the pick at 44 than I agree but if their looking solely at WR like a lot of people think 44 might be too big of a dropOr let's say Chop or Darius are there at 28...Would AZ, move up from 35 for 77 or 90?
Or would GB 41 and 88?
ATL. for 43 and 79?
Or even dropping 3 spots to SF for a late 3rd comp. pick?
Like I said in a post before, my ideal is moving up maybe 2 spots with TB for a 4th (Latu) and next years 1st to GB for 41 and 88. I'd throw back a 5th to make that happen.
We end up with 4 picks in the top 100, plus rds. 4-7 to find those hidden gems at CB/S and OL.
Latu
Sweat
2WRs then BPA the rest of the way.
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14 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:
If the Bills move up and give up their first next year to move up to the teens to get Brian Thomas they still have:2nd,3rd, 4th, 4th(Davis comp pick), 5th, 5th(Floyd Comp pick), 6th, 6th(Basham trade). I think the Bills could live with that. I don’t think they want to dip beyond that
I'm looking at it a little differently. Sure use next years 1st,but do it to get a 2nd and 3rd. There are a few teams with 2 of both. If I'm moving up in the 1st, it's only gonna be a couple of spots where I can use a 4th.
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13 hours ago, Whites Bay said:
I don't follow this sh!t anywhere NEAR the way you guys do, so forgive the dumb question.
If there's no trading up or down, you're saying Latu in the first, Legette in the second. Bills don't have a third, much to Beane's consternation. So that means Sweat is going in the fourth? Would he last that long?
I should have added the caveat of BB using next years 1st to create another 2nd and 3rd. We won't sit idly by from 60 to 128.
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If I'm BB, I'M trading a 4th to TB and grabbing Latu. If it weren't for the injury history...prior to 2 years of being the best DE in the country, he'd be a top 10 pick.
There's no DE even in the same ballpark. Diggs may have a pro bowl year and be back in 25. Miller won't. Latu would be a steal.
I could live with McConkey and Walker. Combining Latu with Groot and A.J while learning from Von...yum.
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3 minutes ago, BigDingus said:
I'm all in on WR in round 1, but I'll NEVER be against investing in the O-line.
It's not as exciting, but a better O-line lifts the entire offensive unit. As long as we're not continuing to ignore the offense, I'll be fine.
But after listening to the radio, it looks like there's at least a dozen Olimen worthy of higher rd. picks. We gotta dress, what 46-53? We should concentrate on impact players and not players for other teams to poach...JMO We have an almost entire Oline in waiting. We need a Bruce Smith, Eric Moulds/Lee Evans or Leonard Smith.
I say F=it and use next year's 1st to do it. We need to make an extra 2nd and 3rd this year!
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Gimme:
Latu
Legette
Sweat
Burton and/ or Walker
M. Smith and do what you want after this..
Javon Solomon...
Cedric Johnson
J. Crumedy
Feel free to throw in a couple Safeties and CBs.
To draft a WR or not with 1st round pick
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That's why next years 1st is in play. It should get us an extra 2nd and 3rd this year, where BB can make hay. With at least a few teams with 2 2nd and 3rd rounders, now's the time to strike. Our 4ths and 5ths combined wouldn't give us a sniff of a 3rd.
However, we could end up with ie: 28,41,60 and 88. Then those later picks could give us to wiggle room.