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ANTIFA: Designated Terrorist Organization
Cugalabanza replied to BillsFanNC's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
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ANTIFA: Designated Terrorist Organization
Cugalabanza replied to BillsFanNC's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Oh ****. I better cancel my subscription to… not liking fascism. -
I really don’t know. It seems to be saying that we’re gonna protect these kids even if we have to stab somebody to do it. Right? I mean, it’s hard to escape that being the implication. I don’t think she means stabbing anybody literally. It’s a symbolic/hyperbolic way of saying she won’t back away from the fight.
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Yeah, it seems inflammatory. I’d be ok with the message minus the knife. With the knife it makes it look like you’re looking for a fight. It’s not a crime, but it’s a dick move. People can form their own opinions about it. Similarly, when it was in style for politicians to wear the AR-15 pins, that was a move that raised the temperature and moved away from intelligent discussion. Again, not illegal, just unnecessarily toxic. The context was that people were very raw about school shootings and the gesture went beyond supporting the 2nd amendment. It was intended to rattle.
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Thanks! That's a good definition. That's what I was looking for. I can appreciate the position. I agree that the "bigotry" card comes out too soon and too often. People who support trans rights tend to feel victimized themselves and they kind of come out swinging with their reactions. So, the entire discussion is already very hot and if you try to have a genuine conversation about any of it, it tends to get confrontational. From what I've seen in public schools (I have a daughter in ninth grade now), I haven't seen anything problematic. Maybe it is in some areas, I don't really know. Kids are aware that trans is a thing. To me it seems fine if the message is: [trans people exist and there's nothing wrong with that]. If there were anything approaching indoctrination, I would have a problem with that. I'm sure there are cases where young people have taken steps to transition and it turned out to be wrong for them. And I'm sure there are doctors out there who are too aggressive about it or who have acted inappropriately. It's hard to know the extent of this stuff because you see stories and lots of commentary, but it's all so supercharged, it's hard to know how much of it has been cherry-picked or how to weed out misinformation. The sports thing I find difficult. I personally think there are probably some cases where trans women should be able to compete, but where do you draw the line? I cannot say. Again, it's something that deserves careful discussion, but that often feels impossible. As soon as you bring it up as a topic, everybody is screaming and accusing the other side of being something inhuman. Anyway, thanks for honestly answering my question and not just attacking me personally or accusing me of pushing a dangerous agenda. 😄
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So it sounds like what you are saying is that the transgender ideology is synonymous with support of the trans rights movement, since you think of it all as mental illness. Is that correct? And the correlation with violence is a natural one and inevitable since the fundamental condition involves mental illness? If that's your position, then you are certainly entitled to that. However, I don't think that most conservatives would agree with that. I suspect that they would give a different answer about the ideology and the associated violence. By the way, I definitely believe that the transgender issue and pedophilia are 100% distinct, separate things. Further, I think that by far the greater share of the pedophilia problem is the result of regular straight men.
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But people commit crimes while simultaneously holding all kinds of beliefs. Correlation is not causality. Many thousands of catholic priests sexually molested young children. We don't extend blame to all Catholics or condemn the entire religion. We hopefully find and eliminate the criminal activity. There isn't anything inherently violent about believing some people can change gender. My fear is that some people make the connection that all of a group of people are guilty of something they are not guilty of. And the result is that they become vulnerable to violence themselves.
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Serious question: What is transgender ideology? If a person believes that gender dysphoria is rare but legitimate and that transgender people deserve civil rights the same as anyone else, can't that be considered a reasonable (non-radical) position? Assume that same person simultaneously believes that political violence is wrong and should be condemned. At what point does tolerance of trans people count as an actual ideology? What is the supposed element of indoctrination or accompanying political stance that makes it harmful or extreme or unamerican? I believe that the trans issue is likely being way overstated as an influence on political violence and it does not represent trans people as a whole.
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Week 3, Fish v. Bills, PREDICT THE SCORE!
Cugalabanza replied to Freddie's Dead's topic in The Stadium Wall
Tough one. Dolphins desperate and playing for their lives. Bills 24 Dolphins 22 -
There’s a famous old story: When Mike Nichols was making The Graduate, Robert Redford wanted to play the lead. Nichols had to reject him because he didn’t think he could play a loser. Nichols asked Redford, “Have you ever struck out with a girl?” and Redford was basically like I don’t understand the question.
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A great supporter of indie movies. RIP.
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Seriously? On Fox and Friends, the topic turned to homeless people… Lawrence Jones: “You can’t give ’em a choice. Either you take the resources that we’re going to give you, or you decide that you gotta be locked up in jail. That’s the way it has to be now.” Kilmeade: “Or uh, involuntary lethal injection. Or something. Just kill ’em.” You can easily find the video clip online.
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Fox’s Brian Kilmeade said that homeless people should get involuntary lethal injections. They should be killed. I’m surprised this can fly on a major network show. There has been no retraction or apology or response at all from Fox. Do conservatives feel that this is a defensible position?