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  1. 5 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:


    Yes, this is something I cam see your view on cancel culture.  A social issue, yes I feel there is too much sensitivity.

     

    I think when it comes to death, that’s a different ball game.  This guy was very popular and considered an icon and pioneer to many.  People are grieving.

     

    If you want to show the world that you are happy about it, I know you are vile towards an ideology.  If I have that same ideology and you know it, I am not comfortable around you.  If you post a video mocking the death, you are someone looking for confrontation, and Im avoiding you.  That’s a bad work environment.

    This.

     

     

    Apparently I'm just another conservative whining about cancel  culture because I draw the line at cheering on someone's death.

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  2. 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said:

    I'm not mad at those doing the outing or those celebrating the outing. I pointed out what sure looks like a double standard and some of you are taking it rather personally.  

     

    It is cancel culture.  Definitionally.  If you celebrate cancel culture today maybe think twice before ranting about how bad it is tomorrow.  Seems like a reasonable ask to me.  

     

    Or if you want play on both sides of the fence on this issue as its convenient, just own it like NC.  

    There is a difference between making comments that are offensive and celebrating someone's death.

     

    If you can't separate the two, that's a you problem.

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  3. 6 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

    You have multiple times responded to my substantive posts over the past few days with some form of "thats a word salad" which is a total cop out.  Beyond weak.

     

    You introduced a false choice in your previous post between some "semi controversial" hypothetical and public celebrations of death. I'm not taking the bait and letting you advance your own definitions of terms and degrees of controversy, as that is an obvious and underhanded way to debate.  

     

    I attempted to have an adult conversation with you in good faith, and predictably my efforts were in vain.

    You condemn the people who cheer his death while being mad at these same people for being outed.

     

    We all have to draw a line. I draw it at cheering on someone's murder. If you deem these people getting outed as cancel culture fine.

     

    I don't agree.

     

    Why do you cry outrage when monsters are outed?

     

    You call it cancel culture, I call it having common sense. I don't want these monsters in my community holding positions of power, interacting with children.

     

     

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  4. Just now, Jauronimo said:

    I don't know what "semi controversial" comments you are referring to or who deemed them only "semi controversial". Further, I don't know how this hypothetical of "semi controversial" opinions is even relevant.  It is obvious that you are advancing a highly flexible and personally convenient definition of what cancel culture entails.  Luckily, for us we don't need to debate the meaning of the term cancel culture as it has already been established.

    You took the word salad way out.

     

    Sad.

     

    Boxed in huh?

     

     

  5. 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancel_culture

     

    Definitionally, it is cancel culture.  Social media outrage, citizens reporting people for their transgressions, calling for firings. The only difference between this example of cancel culture and thousands of others is that this time you're the one who is outraged rather than the one defending free speech.

    Do you think making semi controversial comments is different than cheering on the death of someone you disagreed with?

     

    Cancel culture does apply to one of these above examples.

  6. Just now, Jauronimo said:

    A quick primer on hate speech before you confuse yourself further: hating an individual because of that individual's opinions does not constitute any relevant definition of the term. 

     

    https://www.ala.org/advocacy/intfreedom/hate

    But cheering someone's demise is against most people's moral compass and definitely most businesses.

     

    You don't find it disturbing that teachers are cheering his death.

     

    This is not cancel culture.

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  7. 2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

    A principled stand on the issue is the best one.  Freedom of speech has never meant freedom from consequences, whether you're calling some dude on the subway an N-bomb or celebrating a gruesome murder.  But in this age its hard to cry for someone who lacks the judgement not to post something so over the top on their own facebook page.  Now public sector "canceling" for matters of freedom of speech is an entirely different matter. 

     

    I just cannot stand watching the same people who condemn so called "cancel culture" as an existential threat to western society now celebrate it as it suits them.  

     

     

    Blame the corporations for trying to protect their interests by creating such policies.

     

    Your cancel culture angle is very weak

  8. 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said:

    I dunno man, we know for certainty that Trump has already had foreign adversaries assassinated in public with civilian collateral damage(Iranian General Qasem Soleimani). Once you pop your cherry, I'm sure it gets a lot easier to keep doing it. When there's personal benefit to be had? Well, then it's a no-brainer.

    The Epstein scandal may indeed stick around, but it depends how trump plays it. If they get some patsy to go along, or even bettr - they just off somebody, like they did with the Ear Job - then the whole matter just goes away. There doesn't even need to be a real person behind it. You just configure a fake FB/Twitter profile and Chat GPT some fake personal photos and you're done. I've already been seeing AI generated photos of "a person of interest" going around conservative social media today.

    It would be VERY easy to do, and in the meantime he could do things like declare martial law, or just move the national guard/military into american cities of rivals, like Chicago.

    Seems like you have an axe to grind with Trump and nothing but hypotheticals.

     

    Chicago's a shithole with an obvious crime problem, not a rival.

     

    You seem to be towing the divide.

    1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said:

    Occams razor is never on the side of conspiracy theories.   They make too many assumptions and arent directly logical.  It doesnt mean they arent sometimes true just not in line with the thing youre quoting.

    His usage would be correct with facts or evidence. He's hitting us with straight feelings.

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  9. 9 minutes ago, TH3 said:

    No….you point out the epic irony of a political leader silent after the deaths of school kids…or worse….stating that their deaths are a price he sees as acceptable to maintain clear constitutional access to guns… 

    and he gets lit up by an insane person who got his 2a gun….just like all those little kids ….totally worth it

    thoughts and prayers

    If you're gonna have a horrible take.

     

     

    Don't cut and paste a reddit thread.

     

    Be original.

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  10. Just now, BullBuchanan said:

    It doesn't have to be the end of days for trump and his staff to do reckless things. They've shown in the past that they'll waste no opportunity create spectacles for their gain. What if he really is implicated directly in the Epstein Files? What if there's direct concrete evidence that he was/is involved in sex trafficking and that's why they haven't been released?

    Unless Charlie Kirk had the actual epstein files and was going public with them this is totally absurd.

     

     

    This news although tragic, will fade as the cycle progresses and the Epstein topic will still exist.

     

    Sooo I think you should maybe take a breath and let's see how it plays out.

     

    I will do the same.

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  11. Just now, BullBuchanan said:

    It's obvious because it provides MASSIVE political benefit. Think about it. Trump's approval ratings are int he gutter right now. The economy is toast, he's getting major pressure about Epstein, what better way out of it than a major distraction that also galvanizes his base. GWB lied about Iraq having WMDs and started a war that killed 500K civilians just to get out from his scandals, what's one Charlie Kirk?

    Most people left of republicans don't even know who he is. If you were someone that wanted him dead because you disagreed with him, there are hundreds of more more prominent and damaging people out there. Why would someone be willing to potentially sacrifice themselves over a guy like that? He's a minor league player, but his death would be a rallying cry for all the podcasters and disaffected white boys. It will give Trump all the credibility he needs to do some really heinous ***** if he wants to, and no one from his party will dare try to stop him. Politically, it's a very fortunate event, I would say too fortunate.

    It's not even remotely close to be hitting this panic button scenario you cooked up.

  12. 3 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

    I find it hilarious that Roundy admits that he is trying to persuade others to be more liberal. Here at PPP. With the 6-8 regulars here who aren't leftists.

     

    😂

     

    Does anyone here, right or left, truly believe that their posts here in the cesspool are going to be persuasive to anyone?

     

     

     

     

    Hell naw.

     

     

    We're all trying to pour into bottomless cups.

    13 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


    You are not wrong, really. 

    Got to push out the old fossils like Schumer and get new blood. 

    I think you need to embrace messaging that encompasses more everyday Americans and not lead full charge with the fringe radical groups.

     

     

    And yes to Schumer. That picture with him "grilling" was beyond pathetic.

  13. The man had his beliefs and he stood by them. He seemed to live life the right way and should serve as an inspiration to people.

     

    All he did was try to extend a bridge of understanding and foster communication with people that disagreed with him.

     

     

    Yesterday that bridge was burned.

     

    Rest in peace.

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