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Not watching. #BoycottTheBowl2025

Can get open. Can catch the ball. Team player, isn't a dick.

Wonder if there's a betting line on this? What would be great is if she said, NO! Awkward.

Well... We're Forked. (Except, I didn't say Forked, I said *****) 😉

Ye of little faith. He could screw it up. Need it to be 0 seconds to go.

Agree with both points. But Bills brass saw this year as a transition from the players they moved on from last year & the cap issues & believed they set themselves up for this off-season to upgrade the talent. Because of that Babich will get a pass. Beane should feel some heat & probably McD too, but I doubt they will from Terry.

No. Beane said this was a retooling year. The team over performed his expectations. He knows they need to add talent & plans to do so this off season.

Bill's Free Agents this off-season (post news here about Bills free agents and targets): Unrestricted Free Agents WR Amari Cooper CB Rasul Douglas OT Tommy Doyle LS Reid Ferguson FB Reggie Gilliam S Demar Hamlin WR Mack Hollins DT Quinton Jefferson DT Austin Johnson RB Ty Johnson DT Jordan Phillips DE Dawuane Smoot Restricted/Exclusive-Rights Free Agents OT Alec Anderson QB Shane Buechele OT Ryan Van Demark TE Quintin Morris Bills' 2025 Free Agents, Targets and Draft Needs After NFL Playoff Loss https://search.app/BBMp8aLwP5Yvh7sf9

What a silly question. Yes, of course. Everyone is getting fired. Beane, McD, Brady, Babich, Josh Allen, all the players. Complete gut job rebuild. Or not.

Everytime I hear "pro bowl" all I can think of is:

Here's Beane's 1st round picks: how many made a huge game changing difference last night? 2018 - Josh Allen & Tremaine Edmunds 2019 - Ed Oliver 2020 - No pick (traded to get Diggs) 2021 - Gregory Rousseau 2022 - Kaiir Elam 2023 - Dalton Kincaid 2024 - No pick (traded to KC for a 3rd round DT who was inactive) Allen is the only home run, blue chip, take over a playoff game to get you a championship player. KC has Mahomes, Kelce & Jones (way too early to put Worthy in that convo). Oliver & Rousseau are nice, but they're not top guys at their spots. Elan's a bust & Kincaid is trending in the bust direction. Beane has to hit it Huge. If he doesn't there should be a real evaluation of him & his scouts to see what changes need to be made. Don't have a lot of faith.

Dawson, when you wait to tell us after you loose it's just an excuse. This team's full of them. (Coin flip in OT decided it. We were injured. It was a rebuilding year.) Can't wait for next year's excuse. Instead, try drafting, coaching & playing better & stop chocking in the biggest games. Then you won't need excuses.

Boycotting. (Not that they'll miss me)

Day drinking.

Put a fork in me. I'm done.... ....see you next year.

Nice players. But I'm talking about all time great who can take over a game & win it for you in the biggest games where it matters most. KC has Mahomes, Kelce & Jones. Only Josh has done that for us consistently. No one else he's drafted takes over in the playoffs. Without that we won't get over the hump. He has not hit on a 1st round pick in a long time. He gave KC Worthy who led all receivers last night w/ 85 yards & a TD. In return we got a D-lineman who was inactive. And where was Coleman? Honestly, who was the better WR this year, who showed up when it mattered Worthy or Coleman? Beane gave Andy Reid a speed weapon & he used it to beat us. Not like Beane had no idea that could happen given Tyreek Hill. Look all areas of this operation have consistently failed to get to the SB let alone win it. Tough questions and real self scouting needs to be done of this entire operation or this will continue to be the result. But that includes Beane & his scouts. And we need to honestly ask can these guys ever get it done or are we going to be like the Phillip Rivers Chargers, Marvin Lewis Bengals, and the Mike Tomlin Steelers.

What coach has won their 1st Superbowl this many years into taking the job?

Huge off-season for Beane. Only all time great, game changing talent he's gotten is Allen. He needs to find that guy who can take over a game on D. He also needs to do a better job evaluating who he pays to stay. I'm not sure smaller guys on D works bc they get hurt all the time. Needs to start factoring in availability before paying guys. Needs 1st & 2nd round picks that actually produce at a high level. Not real confident he & the scouting department can do it.

Completely agree with you about Brady & the offense. But the stat line this thread is about is an indictment of the defense. That stat line says teams who's offenses have scored 4 TDs w/ 0 turnovers in the playoffs are 85-6. BC that was enough for 85 other Defenses to come away w/ a win. It wasn't enough for just 6 defenses & we had 2 of them including last night. That was the most points KC has scored all year. Sure offense could do more. My point is that stat line says the D needs to be better. But I agree the offense also needs improvement. Right now I don't have a lot of faith in Beane or McD to ever get it done.

That stat line says teams who's offenses score 4 TDs w/ 0 turnovers in the playoffs are 85-6. BC that was enough for 85 other Defenses to come away w/ a win. It wasn't enough for just 6 defenses & we had 2 of them including tonight. That was the most points KC has scored all year. Sure offense could do more. But that stat line says the D needs to be better.

He's not living up to expectations. Massive disappointment this year. Needs to get together.

D is not good enough

Everyone gets an F right now. I'll be more objective w/ grading in a month.

Needing a better defensive scheme is an indictment of McD (it's his D). Needing better players is an indictment of Beane (he picked the players). Other than Allen what top level, take over a game in a championship moment talent do we have? KC has Mahomes, Kelce & Jones. We have Allen. I just don't have any faith these 2 can get it done for us. I don't see it changing. Hope I'm wrong, but I can't point to anything right now to say otherwise.

Looking at it honestly, what top level talent (I mean take over a game, championship winning, building block of a franchise talent) has Beane drafted other than Allen? (KC has Mahomes, Kelce & Jones) No pass catchers, pass rush, undersized D players that are always hurt. Elam a bust, Kincaid looking like a bust. Gives KC Worthy in a trade that gave us a D-line player who's inactive. This roster has significant flaws & holes. It's hard to see any reason to believe Beane can build a roster with McD as coach that will ever get over the hump. If things don't change expect more of the same every year.