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I agree with most of what you say. I did say that I expected to be better "not factoring in injuries, strength of schedule and improvement of opponents" and I would also say that the performance of young players is highly unpredictable... and that goes for the opposition as well.

A marginally interesting aspect of this for me is that it's questionable whether the Bills would even use this as bulletin board material. While teams generally pounce on the opportunity to use snubs for motivation, in this case it sends the message that individual accolades are more important than team ones... never a good message.

I think it comes down to: They knew what they had in White. They wanted to see what they had in Beuchele. Ultimately the Bills have to do what's best for the team above what's best for the individual.

Former 1st round fullback Booker Moore... Penn State I believe. So in your Estime-tion he wasn't nimble enough? Yes, a 2nd round pick in 2021 who is 27 years old and showed very little development. I think they liked him but said that he needed a change of scenery. Very diplomatic of them.

You missed in the very next bullet point: "Allen, a top contender for this year's prize but absent on all of our analysts' ballots, could become just the fifth player in the Super Bowl era to pull off a repeat (joining Joe Montana, Brett Favre, Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers)." Interesting that there were 29 voters and not one single vote was cast for a Bills player.

What you guys say about turnover differential is true and there's bound to be a regression to the mean average but... since McDermott became Head Coach, the Bills lead the NFL in defensive takeaways with 252. The next closest teams are the Steelers with 240 and the Vikings with 229. The Bills will again have a positive turnover ratio and will likely be among the league leaders because McDermott has a proven track record of being able to take the ball away and Josh has really embraced protecting possession.

It doesn't matter what you want them to do. Poyer wants to be a player and they want him to be a player... they see the value in him as a player. They're not going to overpay him as a coach and have him take practice reps as a player. And they're not going to try to circumvent the salary cap with outlandish schemes.

The role of a veteran player is different than that of a coach. That's why there's such things as team captains and leadership committees. The Bills obviously see more value in Poyer as a player than as a coach. Poyer will make $450K at the veteran minimum assuming 18 weeks. The average position coach in the NFL makes about $150K. Poyer as a player is an insurance policy... as a coach he wouldn't be practicing and therefore wouldn't be game-ready if needed.

Below is a rough breakdown of the initial 53 man rosters from the last two years. It doesn't include Maxwell Hairston and Michael Hoecht who should both contribute significantly and are inarguably big talent upgrades to the roster. Bills Season Opening 53 Man Roster Changes 2024 2025 Mack Hollins Joshua Palmer M Valdes-Scantling Elijah Moore Tyrell Shavers Quintin Morris Jackson Hawes Von Miller Joey Bosa Casey Toohill Landon Jackson Dawuane Smoot TJ Sanders Austin Johnson Deone Walker Edefuan Ulofoshio Shaq Thompson Nicholas Morrow Baylon Spector Rasul Douglas Tre’Davious White Kaiir Elam Dorian Strong Mike Edwards Jordan Hancock Sam Martin Brad Robbins It looks to me like over the course of the season: WR: Even without the presumed improvement of Keon Coleman that the Bills WRs will be improved TE: Kincaid can only be better than last year and Hawes is an upgrade over Q. Morris D-line: Will be better than last year's, especially with Michael Hoecht returning LB: Will depend on the health of Milano and Bernard, Thompson can't be worse than Spector, et al CB: Should be better... Douglas and Elam were terrible last year. Safety: Should be better because Bishop can't be worse than Hamlin and has a good ceiling. I have high hopes for Hancock The Bills invested heavily in defense with 6 draft picks, 3 significant free agent signings, and the hiring of Senior Defensive Assistant Ryan Nielsen and Co-DL Coach Jason Rebrovich. Based solely on the roster and coaching staff (not factoring in injuries, strength of schedule and improvement of opponents) I'm certainly expecting improvement this year... especially defensively. Also with the presumed upgrade at Special Teams Coordinator (Chris Tabor over Matthew Smiley), I expect last year's 28th ranked special teams unit (Rick Gosselin Ranking) to be improved.

BTW, there's a sequel to "This is Spinal Tap" coming out soon... "Spinal Tap II" (the roman numeral 2 appears as Stonehenge stones).

Even after the certainty that he was headed for the practice squad there was still plenty of unhappiness about his return. Strangely enough, this topic appears to be a Jordan-safe Zone. Yes Hamler doesn't give the Bills anything that Samuel and Moore doesn't already give them. Ralph is cheap! Agreed. In the majority of cases the talent is indistinguishable and teams feel more comfortable retaining players that are familiar known quantities and that have already been in the playbook.

Yeah, but the Head of Facilities and Maintenance at Bank of America stadium is the same guy who was there when McBeane were. Pretty sure that's at the root of this blatant nepotism. What's incredible is that while some people here say it for comedic value, many actually believe that it's a problem.

Next time you see Jimmy Spagnuolo in the yard, tell him we said "Hi!"

The same thing happened in the Jordan Phillips topic as happened here. You could almost change the last name and position and there wouldn't be any difference. In fact both topics stand right now at 17 pages. I'm sorry the Bills let you down... how dare they... 😆 So... signing Von to a huge contract is the same as signing Jordan Poyer to the veteran minimum?

Sam Franklin... his middle name is Jordan, btw. Or guys named Jordan. F5

Breaking news... the Bills just signed Jordan Palmer to mentor Josh.

You forgot Jordan Mills... to mentor the young O-linemen... probably won't see the field...

Very unlikely. He needs more ramp up time after missing camp and preseason. I already said to you that the only difference is the timing.

Because he probably told the Bills that he didn't want to be in camp. Most long tooth vets hate camp. Because the max pay for practice squad is $25,000 per week... Poyer prorates to $450K for the season which is way more than a position coach makes.

Isn't this very similar to what Micah did last year. The only difference so far is the timing.

That's not gonna fly around here... we need you to have a knee-jerk, negative overreaction... Yes Jordan Phillips and Jordan Poyer... makes you wonder if Beane is playing a silly word game.

Yes. He's old enough tp be Tremaine's father. Not sure but I just heard the new stadium's gonna have a real grass field! I guess that depends on your definition of "surprise." This board is already crucifying Beane for drafting Carter.

I got more frustrated with BananaB. You said that it would be nice if McDermott adapted a bit and I replied that I thought he had, based on the numerous offseason moves. Then he asked me if I thought people should be happy with the offseason moves, which misses the point completely. My point is that the Bills did adapt and invest in the defense... that's all. There's a difference between an investment and a return on investment. We have to wait on the return on investment but in the meantime, I guess some people want to pre-judge the moves and complain without waiting to see how it turns out.

No, this is not what I was saying. I was saying that there are fans that feel entitled to a Super Bowl victory. I've posted on the idea of "deserve" upthread so I won't repeat it here. And I'm not saying, nor did I say that people should be happy and content... I too criticize the team from time to time. But some people here are really in need of some perspective. The criticism of team by some on this forum is not commensurate with the team's performance and these posters really come off sound like spoiled babies. That's what I'm talking about.

I've heard of him!