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Well I also wondered if these ratings were weighted by teams draft position but I guess you just answered that.

Does the team have different scouts/talent evaluators working for them the last 3 years than they did in 2017-2019? That's quite a dropoff in draft quality.

QB legend, HOF coach and a clown fiesta in the rest of the division for many years.

FIFY. Without Allen and Diggs, this team is still a perennial 7-9 to 9-7 team. Conversely you could throw almost any HC or GM in the mix and I would bet Allen and Diggs still string out 11+ win seasons.

What would it cost the Bills to trade up and nab Quinton Johnson?

What if Josh Allen played out his 6 year contract and then retired early to focus on his golf career

I'm cool with taking a WR in round one as long as it's Quentin Johnston and I wouldn't mind even trading up a few spots for him.

I've already acknowledged that. Short term gain for them long term gain for us. Bills aren't winning a Superbowl next year with how many holes we have going into next season and a deficient coaching staff. Let the Jets sign Rodgers and trade away all their picks and make a super bowl run next year so he can retire and leave them back to being QB-less in 2024-2025. Meanwhile maybe we can catch back up to the Jets in draft capital because they've been killing it last few years with their picks.

This particular instance of him clapping was just after his defense gave up a 1st down on 3 and 19.

Man he really doesn't age 😂

So, I'm curious why are you going soft on the coaches? We seem to have progressively regressed in each of our playoff exits the last 3 years. Strangely enough, the Ravens with a backup QB playing laid out a precise roadmap for taking down a very talented Bengals team and for some reason the Bills staff saw it and said "nah, we're good" and then proceeded to get stomped as if they were a high school team out there.

My money is on Jacksonville

I'll play the optimist here and say that if they Chiefs can score a really high value draft and flip things around in a reset year, then the Bills should at least be capable of doing the same. I'm not sure McBeane is up the task though but we'll see.

It's amusing that despite the Bills front office only being interested in "high character" guys they still managed to f up and draft an alleged rapist. Sure Ariza had his name cleared now but the allegations were out there back then.

Bills have clear TOP tier QB and WR. Those are really the biggest core building blocks to getting a team to a championship. They clearly need help on the OL and WR2 positions but every teams has a few holes somewhere. At this point it's the coaching that's holding them back. For Josh Allen to go all the way through his prime years and never get a ring would be a criminal waste of talent.

I don't know but the NY Jets may have 3 from last year's draft alone. McBeane better figure out their talent evaluation or our run at the top of the AFCE will be short lived.

And sadly I think coaching and management will be the one thing that doesn't change this offseason. Look for more of the same next year while our division opponents keep gaining ground

They battled through adversity knocking out win after win and just when they turned the corner...things were looking better, Damar was back in the building...they were 2 games away from their dream...just at that moment they decided they didn't have anything left in them. Sorry I don't buy it. I feel for all the players went through this season but Cincy game was a complete coaching mismatch.

Cincy worse in my book. Game was brutal to watch for one, unlike the KC game. Secondly, I still had high hopes for this season after the Chiefs won last years game. This year's exit exposed a LOT of holes and I have all but zero hopes or expectations for a deep playoff run next season.

I would wager that almost everyone here was on the old board.

I agree with you, we didn't have enough depth outside and Beane seemed to have a penchant for slot guys. Drafted Shakir, Signed Crowder, Keeps McKenzie, Signs Hines, Signs Beasley. That's five roster spots for rotational slot gadget guys...kind of absurd when you look back at it.

I will give Beane the slightest of breaks on the WR position. Going into the playoffs last year Gabe Davis was on absolute fire and really looked like he was going to be a true WR2 at that point, even a good WR2. Nobody really saw his regression coming. We still shoulda been trying to find more depth at the position though. This draft just about has to be perfect for the Bills to remain competitive next year. OL, WR, OL, S. Resign Edmunds, Let Poyer find a new home.

Has there been instances of him actually doing this? The only play calling I ever see him do is calling for an extra point after TD

I was originally for Dorsey being promoted as that's who Josh was comfortable with but looking back on it now, I feel like Dorsey is kind of in a position now since being heavily endorsed by him, will never challenge Josh Allen if he notices him start trending the wrong path as far as decision making, mechanics etc. Josh for better or worse, owns the Buffalo Bills right now figuratively speaking. Not saying any offensive regression is on Allen but in the case it were, I feel like Daboll was better suited to get it corrected.

I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm saying the Bills, based on how this season ended will need a year or two to really reset and get pieces in place. The Jets absolutely nailed their draft last year with Wilson Gardner and Hall. Based on how they have been drafting compared to us, our best hope is to maybe take a beating from them next year while they bet the franchine on a declining vet QB by giving away premium picks.