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People that come to see the Bills play (out-of-towners) need a place to sleep (hotel) whether the stadium is downtown or OP. They need food (restaurants) whether the stadium is downtown or OP. I can’t think of a single business that would purchase a suite downtown but wouldn’t purchase one 20 minutes away in OP. And even if there was, suites are sold out regardless. You can’t more sell-out an already sold-out. All the “positives” of a downtown stadium exist whether the stadium is downtown or in OP.

Unless someone can point me to a study that indicates otherwise, I believe that the majority of worldwide bills mafia fans choose away games in warm cities and nice areas such as Nashville and Miami and LA in Las Vegas as their game spots. And the ones that do come home a few times per year or even once per year, still need a hotel to stay in. Still need food to put in their belly. They’re still spending dollars in the area. Regardless of where the stadium is physically located.

They’re a proven draw for locals. They are not a proven draw for tourists or out-of-towners. Locals don’t often spend money on hotels. And the bars may make some more cash but it’s only 10 days per year.

People have a dream that a downtown stadium will bring in a sudden influx of visitors. Its a similar dream to the fast ferry in Rochester.

Cost, tailgating, infrastructure, parking, etc

Why are the cities coffers more important than the counties? More importantly, people do not stay where the Bills play. There is little lodging near the stadium. Many stay downtown, or elsewhere. And they still must eat. Dollars are spent regardless of where the Bills physically move a pigskin about for 60 minutes. .

This is a much better solution than the projects.

If you come to the Buffalo area for 3 days regardless, what does it change that the location is downtown. Are downtown dollars more significant than suburban dollars?

Josh didn’t hop to his left on accident. That was the play call. The blocking was pushing to the right to open up the C gap for Josh. Dawkins got beat so badly that the C gap didn’t exist.

Raiders stadium was “only” $1.9B. And it is beautiful.

Oh are you thinking that Terry would own the land/stadium? Where did you park? .

We can agree to disagree. For those interested, maybe i’ll create a thread sometime with pics of my road trip. It was a great time. I purchased a conversion van with all of the amenities and drove from New York to California, and back. Stopping at every NFL city / stadium along the way. . How does a downtown stadium give Terry what he needs, in your estimation?

I do not have an agenda. I was pro-Downtown stadium for many years until I went on a nationwide tour of stadiums in the NFL. After seeing so many and all different options and ideas and the impact location had on each… That’s what changed my mind. The #1 reason proponents like the location of the Titans stadium is the closeness to Broadway and bars. With the Titans often having as many away fans as home fans, that’s a big plus. Tourists like to hit the bar before and after. Locals want to go home.

I have. While I don’t think it’s lame, I do think it’s substandard for locals. Nashville’s stadium situation is fantastic for tourists though.

I love to learn and i’m always open to being incorrect and correcting myself. Which is why I asked, and ask again, can you cite somewhere in the rule book that describes an uncatchable pass in the same manner that you do?

Yes. I listed them.

Do you have any citation in the rule book to back this up?

Ahh, yes, I don’t have much experience with Hammers lot. I can see it being difficult to navigate out of there. I try to park on California. Very easy out.

Perhaps that is the distinction. Ball in air. I don’t recall when he threw it. Edit; But then again, PI is not called when first contact is made. PI - by rule - can only be called when the receivers ability to catch the ball is significantly hindered. At the 5 yard line, the ball is uncatchable at that point. .

I can get out of OP and onto the interstate in about 15 to 25 minutes. it’s really not bad at all. Nashville is far worse. Carolina is bad too. Miami is bad but better that both.

I suppose I can only say that your experience varies quite differently to the thousands who post on the Titans forum. As with everything in life, perspective is everything.

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I’m not so certain that the Diggs spot was correct. While the defender did indeed make first made contact with Diggs at the 5 yard line, the ball was no where near Diggs at this time. Because the ball was no where within Diggs reasonable catch radius, the call would have had to be illegal contact if they believe the foul occurred at the 5 yard line. This is where the “not catchable” rule comes into play for PI. For pass interference to be eligible, the defender must hinder the receivers ability to physically catch the pass (section 5, article 1). The defender physically hindered Diggs ability to catch pass in the endzone, and therefore if PI is to be called, the ball should be placed at the 1. There is no spot penalty for illegal contact - it’s only 5 yards and a first down.

This has been happening all year long, across the entire NFL. New York is communicating with the on-field referee crew in live-time to fix obvious mistakes and reduce the need for coaches challenges. This is made possible by a new rule that was approved during the 2021 offseason. This rule allows the replay official to change (in live-time), the spot of the ball, complete/incomplete/int passes, line to gain, etc. The NFL replay official has until 20 seconds on the next plays play-clock to change something. That’s why coaches should *not* throw a challenge flag until there is LESS than 20 seconds on the play clock. Otherwise they could be wasting a challenge. I also have no idea why Diggs PI was placed at the 5 yard line. .

Since i’m not paying for it and therefore money is no option, I want an LA-type stadium. Meaning, it has a roof but both sides of the endzone are open. This blocks rain and some wind (and in Buffalo, snow) but allows for an outdoor feel. It’ll never happen, but that would be my dream.