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Yep. This article is about a different topic but it mentions that the league considers a toe to be a full foot. ”the league interprets the rule to mean that a toe is a foot, as long as the toe is dragged”

Uh, If you’re going by basic english, “step” is just putting one leg in front of the other, which Poyer also did a third time. A toe tap has always been considered a step by the NFL. Thus why toe tap catches count. A 3rd toe tap, a hand down, an elbow down, even a SHIN or ankle on the ground, counts as a catch. Also, saw this in a PFT article on a different topic but shows the leagues thinking: “the league interprets the rule to mean that a toe is a foot, as long as the toe is dragged” To the NFL, a toe tap is a step.

Not just a belief. it’s literally IN the rule book. Surviving the ground doesn’t take effect if a third step is taken.

Literally no where in the rule book does it say that a toe tap is not an additional step. You’re just making that up.

Poyer had 3 feet down. The 3rd step counts as a football move. Once that 3rd step is made, surviving the ground doesn’t exist. See: https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/244127-the-ball-did-not-survive-the-ground-rule/?do=findComment&comment=8088395

I think they flat out got the rule wrong. Poyer had 3 feet down on the INT play. Look at the images below. The rule book states a catch is when a player: “a. secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and b. touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and c. after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, performs any act common to the game (e.g., tuck the ball away, extend it forward, take an additional step, turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so.” NOTE: Poyer took the additional step. He had 3 full feet down. If “c” is satisfied, then surving the ground doesn't apply. Again, see the rule book: “If a player, who satisfied (a) and (b), but has not satisfied (c), contacts the ground and loses control of the ball, it is an incomplete pass if the ball hits the ground before he regains control, or if he regains control out of bounds” He satisfied “c” with his third step, so surviving the ground becomes null and void. That’s an INT.

The league could make this a lot simpler if they changed the rule to be: 1) Two feet in bounds 2) Firm grasp of the ball when the two feet are in bounds 3) The ball does not touch the ground when you fall down Enough of the “well the ball slightly moved” stuffed. If they had two feet in bounds with firm grasp of the ball and the ball doesn’t touch the ground when they fall, catch. Why should a ball slightly moving on a players body but never touching the ground matter?

No wide receiver (other than Gabe) on the Bills has below a 67% catch %. Diggs is over 70%. Knox is near 80%. Even McKenzie is near 70%. Gabe is in the 50’s! He is BY FAR the low man on the totem pole. His hands are not good. .

I do. He drops too many balls. He has bad hands.

Him not to drop half the passes thrown at him.

You’re right, i’m sure McD is happy to have to sit his 1st round CB in the home stretch of the season when the secondary is hobbled.

Uh oh. Basically, Elam has not been playing well. lol it’s pretty troubling to not understand assignments this late in the season.

I was anti-paying-Edmunds. Then his injury happened and I saw what life is like without Edmunds. Pay Edmunds.

Very proud of the team But I don’t think it’s wrong to point out that there is a lot to fix. Not sure that performance results in a win against KC or Miami or Cinci.

You can win and still play poorly. Definitely lots to clean up. This performance against KC or Cincy or Miami would not be good enough.

Are we playing Mac Jones or Lamar Jackson? Cant get this guy down.

Like clockwork, McDermott defensive timeout results in nothing positive.

McDermott was just itching to take a defensive timeout.

Dane Jackson was TOAST. Thank goodness it’s against Mac.

WHY DO ALL OF OUR RUNNING BACKS HESITATE!!!! Just go!!!

dropping like flies

The line/Knox cost us a Diggs TD and a fumble. Its just ridiculous. Beane has to address this line. And not with retreads.

Cook seems to have a habit of stumbling over his own feet.