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The bar you're setting (All-Pro's) are not what many of us are talking about when we discuss the lackluster draft record. We would love to have All-Pro's but we all understand that there are very few of them. I am more-so talking about that "very good" level that's right below All-Pro. You're also missing a lot of players by only focusing on premium positions: Ed Oliver over Chris Lindstrom Ed Oliver over Jeffrey Simmons Ed Oliver over Dexter Lawrence Cody Ford over Elgton Jenkins Cody Ford over DK Metcalf Rousseou over Landon Dickerson Carlos Basham over Creed Humphrey To name a few... That doesn't take into consideration things such as: Not trading up to get your guy because you think he will fall and then KC trades up and gets him and then you have to panic and draft the very last guy on your 1st round board (Elam). Trading the pick that is now the best WR in the entire NFL.

Yes. In fact, look at a few of Gabe’s peers in yardage: Peoples Jones - 839 yards Gabe Davis - 836 yards Zay Zones - 823 yards Jacobi Meyers - 804 yards These are all average WR’s.

Except it happened with Daboll too. In 2021, Knox was 18th among TE’s in receptions and 15th in yards. His numbers were very similar under Daboll as they are under Dorsey.

To me, if the player is gone, the pick is irrelevant. The point of drafting is to help improve your team - not other teams.

I’m looking at a 3 tech that struggles to get more than 3 or 4 sacks per season and maybe 1 forced fumble.

So was Dan Marino. You mentioned Jordan’s Bulls. At this point, Mahomes is Jordan. And Allen is Malone.

2021 was our season. The stars aligned. Allen was on fire in the playoffs. Gabe’s brick hands suddenly turned to perfectly conditioned leather mits filled with stick-em. Then McFrazier happened…

A sack in 2 of your last 6 games is what an average player would do.

yes and I 100% believe we wanted McDuffie (who KC took) but Beane was shy on moving up.

All-pro Teller is an F? Or maybe the trade is an F?

Its interesting to me how there is always another story to defend Bills players not playing great.

Knox, among TE's, was 17th in receptions and 14th in yards. With a top 3 QB. That's kind of the definition of average.

Good post. I struggled the most with Knox. I can see an arguement for him being better than 'average' but least year wasn't kind to the "knox is going to be elite" argument outside of a few amazing plays.

SDS will definitely franchise him.

I know a lot of people see some elite qualities with him, but i'm talking about his overall play so far. As soon as Von goes out, we never saw Rousseau do anything above average again.

I searched before posting and we don't have a topic like this recently. Closest we had was a guy bashing Beane's draft record but didnt list any picks or give any real reason. This is a thread where people can all rate each player. And also, feel free to stay out of threads you don't like. No one forced you to click.

Players in red are gone or are presumed to be gone (example: Edmunds is testing free agency and is expected to get way more than the Bills can pay). Also didn't include 2022 picks since its too early to rate them. How do you rate the rest of the draft picks? Here are my ratings: 2018 Allen - elite Edmunds Phillips Teller Mccloud T Johnson - good Proehl 2019 Oliver - average Ford Singletary Knox - average Joseph J Johnson - bad D Johnson Sweeney 2020 Epenesa - backup quality Moss Davis - average Fromm Bass - good Hodgins D Jackson - average (I'm not as down on Dane as some of you) 2021 Rousseau - average Basham - backup quality Brown - backup quality Doyle - backup Stevenson Hamlin - backup quality Wildgoose Anderson

This would be the 5th player from that 2018 draft to be gone. Edmunds - gone Teller - gone Phillips - gone Mccloud - gone Proehl - gone

Bingo.

I love grilled cheese. It’s actually one thing she makes quite well. I cook too, when time permits. But we mostly eat out and that needs to change.

Thats a great idea!

I am a carbaholic but i’m trying to change that. Fish is ok. Chicken is ok smothered in sauce. Steake diane is great. Tired of spending thousands per month at restaurants. Body doesn’t appreciate it either.

“I was wrong” would be a good start.

Lots of people watching it doesn’t mean they liked it. Creed sold out the concert that Scott Stapp slurred his words and passed out drunk halfway through the set. The 2 polls i’ve seen so far indicate a poor reception by fans.