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Great point.

Regular season is irrelevant. The Jets beat us in the regular season. Are they good enough? The playoffs are where teams show their colors. And so far are colors havent resulted in a championship. That's fair. We really didn't have any other good option at safety.

I like Poyer a lot and really appreciate all he has done for this team for the past half decade. I understand retaining him since we have no real other option at safety, but re-signing him doesnt move us any close to a championship and he has shown signs of slowing down. We need a better roster since the current roster keeps getting bounced out of the playoffs.

This post is a perfect example of how the off-season has been "meh" at best. Our 2022 roster wasn't good enough to make it out of the divisional round. Yet 7 of our 9 moves have been re-signing the players that were not good enough to make it out of the divisional round, or letting them walk in Free Agency (Edmunds). I understand that you have to sign some of your own, but the unfortunate part is that we do not have enough cap space to get new players. Of our 2 new players, 1 has never made it through a full football season and has been on IR at some point for 2 of the last 3 seasons. The other was the 68th ranked free agent, according to NFL.com

Abracadabra! Here is an injury prone WR and an old safety! Poof!

Huh? He did what every other GM does. Restructures contracts to get some cap space. You're more confident about 2023 after we lost a LB, got a WR that Saints fans say is injury prone and overpaid, and retained a 32 year old safety? I don't get it.

To the extent that there are small nuances within the game, I don't think they are large enough to have a substantial impact on an overall grade. To account for them you could assign a variance of +/- 5 to each player and still have reasonable rankings. Maybe a player rank #1 in his position group drops to #3 and player #2 goes to #1, etc, but it's not like player #40 is going to jump up to #5 because of some small nuance that PFF doesn't know. Generally speaking, I think their grading is close to how NFL teams see players. Are there exceptions at times? Sure. But teams do dumb things all the time. We went 17 years of no playoffs in part by drafting poorly. If we had used the general consensus draft ranking for those 17 years, we likely would have been much better. .

And that's where football disagrees with Lang. You have to remember that just because someone plays football, doesn't mean they understand football or have the knowledge or scope of the full game. How many stories have we heard of players barely passing college courses (or getting help) to play for the team? As I said before, the Eagles aren't inventing a new blocking scheme or breaking the foundation of play design. On a zone run, we know the various assignments each position can have. We know the various responsibilities he may have. Not to mention, how many times are players really messing up the play call? Not nearly as often as simply getting beat. So the majority of grading is the guy getting beat, I would think. .

In layman's terms, football is football. The Eagles aren't inventing a new blocking scheme or breaking the foundation of play design. On a zone run, we know the various assignments each position can have. And much of the time, the problem isn't the linemen going to the wrong place (thus demonstrating the wrong responsibility), but rather the linemen simply being beat in technique. And that is clear as day to see. For example, under no circumstance or play design ever does the linemen have a responsibility of getting blown by and having the QB eat turf.

You're playing a game of semantics and its not interesting or compelling. Yes, I said "lots of former players or coaches work at PFF." And then I provided an extensive (but not inclusive) list of former players or coaches working at PFF. Thus proving what I said. I never said "PFF only employs former players and coaches". Your lack of reading comprehension is not the sign of a straw man. Sorry. Since I never said anything about PFF only employing former players and coaches, I assumed your question was in reference to what I said. I did not realize that you were changing the argument from "some" to "all" and thats my fault for not seeing YOUR straw man. There are 3 levels of analysts at PFF. And ALL player grades have to go through all 3 levels. There may not be a former player or coach at level 1, but they are filled with them in level 2 and 3. The likelihood of a player grade being released without being graded by a former coach or player in level 2 or 3 is unlikely. But you can hang your hat on that small chance if you'd like. Buscaglia is just a radio guy turned reporter who has no additional knowledge than anyone else. At least the grunt level 1 PFF workers are trained. Summary: I'm not interested in playing your game of semantics. Feel free to have the last word. .

Yes. There is a large difference between analyzing, teaching, and doing. If there were not, every head coach and GM in the NFL would be a former player.

There are lots of former players or coaches work at PFF. Including Andrew Berry (former NFL player), Bruce Gradkowski (former NFL player), Mike Johnson (former NFL linemen), Steve Palazzolo (former UNH coach), Jeff Dooley (former RI coach), Mike Renner (former college linemen), Eric Eager (former coach at MU), George Chahrouri (former coach at Harvard), Ben Linsey (former college linemen), Anthony Treash (former AZ db), Andrew Erickson (former college WR), etc. These people are typically Level 2 and 3 (verification of what level 1 thinks).

Not including long-term cap, draft pick, etc consequences. Jets will be a very tough out next year. Their QB's are the only reason they didn't make the playoffs last year. That Jets defense is ridiculously good.

Great point.

After all his pandering to Miami, he comes back to us.

I think that's a big part of it. They mentioned it multiple times. He has been injured all 4 years he has been in the NFL. And apparently struggles with fumbles.

It's honestly not intentional. I just give my authentic opinion. I have been stoked about front office moves in the past though. LOVED the Diggs move. Praised it up an down. Loved drafting Spencer Brown (due to his size). Thought Settle was a great signing too. Yes I did. This question shows you didn't even read what the Saints fans have to say. Which proves you only seek out positive comments.

That intelligence is in short supply? Im just kidding of course

All the interwebs? Or just 1 forum. Like this one. Where the fans have been watching him for 4 years. Uh-huh. I know, I know - You know him better since he was on your fantasy team before.

3 of the last 6 "executives of the year" have been fired lol.

No one knows the player better than the fans who watched him for 4 seasons. Just like you know our players. .

NewEra had him in fantasy once, so they should probably listen to him instead

Wow. Some of the Saints fans (his former team) are obliterating this signing. Here are the comments from the Saints forum: "Unfortunately, it seems Deontay’s small body may not be able to consistently endure full seasons at the pro level. He also seemed zoned out last season." - breesgirl "Already missed 23 games in 4 years due to injury and 3 to suspension. Not to mention the 9 fumbles in the games he did play. Buffalo did us a favor, we will break a table for em." - 44slayer "My gosh, you can’t make these contracts up. The money teams are throwing at former Saints players is ridiculous. He basically won the lottery. I don’t think any other team except for the Bills were going to offer him that kind of money. He is an injury waiting to happen just because of his small stature." - dvdman "Expensive guy for the rehab room" - dataussie "He will probably fit in really well there. He always seemed to have some potential that wasn't fully unlocked here and Shaheed just made him expendable. Wish him well" - t-rex23 "Massive overpay" - Beerbaron "They can have him" - Rajincajun83 "Won't miss this guy." Que Que 6 "Small school KR/PR guys are a dime a dozen as UDFAs, next." - Seafog "The Bills overpaid for Harty just like the Saints did for Peat" - fishing4food "He wasn't playing even when healthy last year was he? I don't get the big money on this one." - Elvis "That is an expensive addition to their Tub Club. Glad we moved on from him, we dont need inactive all stars." - 44slayer "He showed up in the 2019 and 2020 playoffs. But as the TB game showed in 2020, he could be a big asset when healthy (although he looked shaky last year even before he got hurt) but he was prone to injuries." - lordpoopington "Loved him whole here and made a lot of plays for us. I wish him well" - tim martin "Agreed. I know players are worth whatever anyone is willing to pay them, but this seems like a massive overpay for someone that's barely on the field and when he is, the impact is minimal outside of a VERY small handful of highlight plays." - saintaholic "They must really need a PR/KR/WR4 type. That’s a ridiculous amount for him. Glad he got paid. Even happier my Saints didn’t write that check. Good luck to him, though." - breesgirl "Shame, he was great here and has been my favourite return man by far as a Saint. Crazy to see how many guys are signing away from us for big money!" - Cowtownsaint "If he can stay healthy in Buffalo, it's a great offense for him to be in. A ton of speed and QB with an absolute cannon in Allen." - belowzero "I wish him well, but players of his stature rarely have long careers in the NFL…." - sfidc3 "Hes gonna check out on them too." - shortfuzed9 "Allen has an arm. He will hit Harty with some deep shots and he will be their returner. If he's healthy and his head is in a good place, this will be a good fit for him." - MV2 "Nice for him ,that's a lot of $ But i'd rather keep Shaheed than Harty" - killerdescore "We have a bigger and cheaper and younger version of him in Shaheed... So he was never coming back here anyway... I wish him well in Buffalo... He was a good player here." - infoman link

We were not talking about what is real or available. You found it ridiculous that people want a gamechanger WR and yet don't love this signing. But its not ridiculous. Because he's not a game changing WR. This is simple logic.

I'm not saying he can't help us. I was just saying it's not a contradiction to beg for a playmaker yet not be overly enthused by this move. This isn't the type of "playmaker" we had in mind when making those comments. We meant a true game breaking playmaker (which may not even be available). I think if most of us are being honest, we all knew very little about this guy before today. Now everyone is scrounging up links trying to prove that it was a magnificent signing.