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Id be looking at the team who won a Super Bowl, fired their coach, re-tooled the entire roster, then went to another Super Bowl. Howie Roseman. Elite. Didnt he have a quote a few years ago about the draft not being that hard too? Im sure he has some misses too.

Yes. Consulted them. The elite talent evaluators are clear. Look to the top.

Same can be said for humans!

There was only 8 seconds left when the Chiefs snapped the ball at the 39 yard line. A pooch kick that brings the clock down to 7 or 8 seconds likely ended up aroudn the 35 anyway. So it basically didnt matter. The defense was just really bad.

In my opinion it is. This is likely where our differences arise. I am the head of a company and when I do performance evaluation reports, I do not compare my employees to their peers or even competition. I compare it to my standard, which is the elite companies of the world. The NFL is littered with terrible talent evaluators and bad teams. About 70% of the teams in the league ranges between 3 and 9 wins per season. Over 50% of their draft picks are busts. Comparing Beane to other lackluster evaluators doesn't encourage me. That's not how statistical sampling works though. The Bills are not picking near all of the 250+ picks and not all picks are in the same round or grade. The sample size would be more like 10. The 10 picks after the Bills pick - because those are the players likely in consideration for the pick the Bills are in. The Bills wouldnt be considered a 5th round graded player in the 1st. For example, in the 10-block segment for where Beane selected Ed Oliver, there was: Brian Burns Jonah Williams Rashan Gary Dexter Lawrence Jeffrey Simmons Christian Wilkins Chris Lindstrom Garrett Braderry Dwayne Haskins. In this 10-block sample, Beane had a pretty good chance of selecting a difference making player. The players in bold are all-pro's or pro bowlers, and Christian Wilkins SHOULD have been a pro-bowler. He was snubbed, ala Josh Allen last season. "a very small number of players in a draft that has selected 250+" turns into "half of the players in the picks after Ed Oliver was taken turned out to be very good players". And that stings a bit more.

Every post on this forum - including yours that im quoting - is biased. We all have our preconceived thoughts and opinions that bias our responses. To be biased is to be human. Its often those who think they are objective are the ones most bias. You realize that there is a difference between sharing your opinion, and disparaging a person? right? You can disagree with posters without being rude. In general, you tend to crap on anyone's posts (oftentimes mine) if it is even remotely negative. I assume it grows tiresome for you to have to do that, so by all means please ignore my username so you don't have to be subjected to these topics anymore. It must weigh heavy on your shoulders to have to go around doling out judgement to posters for "utterly wasteful" threads. Not after only 4 years. If you don't have a guy after only 4 years, then they are likely a bust. The only person this could even remotely apply to is Edmunds. 1 player. We traded them because the Bills front office thought they were busts. Beane didn't trade what he thought would be an All-Pro guard for a 5th round pick because it was a return in value. To quote Beane "I screwed it up". Him. Who Beane gets huge credit for drafting.

So it's everyone's fault except for Knox? I don't agree but I respect your viewpoint.

Well, yeah. That's what I labeled him as. "Average" Sounds like you agree with me.

The bar you're setting (All-Pro's) are not what many of us are talking about when we discuss the lackluster draft record. We would love to have All-Pro's but we all understand that there are very few of them. I am more-so talking about that "very good" level that's right below All-Pro. You're also missing a lot of players by only focusing on premium positions: Ed Oliver over Chris Lindstrom Ed Oliver over Jeffrey Simmons Ed Oliver over Dexter Lawrence Cody Ford over Elgton Jenkins Cody Ford over DK Metcalf Rousseou over Landon Dickerson Carlos Basham over Creed Humphrey To name a few... That doesn't take into consideration things such as: Not trading up to get your guy because you think he will fall and then KC trades up and gets him and then you have to panic and draft the very last guy on your 1st round board (Elam). Trading the pick that is now the best WR in the entire NFL.

Yes. In fact, look at a few of Gabe’s peers in yardage: Peoples Jones - 839 yards Gabe Davis - 836 yards Zay Zones - 823 yards Jacobi Meyers - 804 yards These are all average WR’s.

Except it happened with Daboll too. In 2021, Knox was 18th among TE’s in receptions and 15th in yards. His numbers were very similar under Daboll as they are under Dorsey.

To me, if the player is gone, the pick is irrelevant. The point of drafting is to help improve your team - not other teams.

I’m looking at a 3 tech that struggles to get more than 3 or 4 sacks per season and maybe 1 forced fumble.

So was Dan Marino. You mentioned Jordan’s Bulls. At this point, Mahomes is Jordan. And Allen is Malone.

2021 was our season. The stars aligned. Allen was on fire in the playoffs. Gabe’s brick hands suddenly turned to perfectly conditioned leather mits filled with stick-em. Then McFrazier happened…

A sack in 2 of your last 6 games is what an average player would do.

yes and I 100% believe we wanted McDuffie (who KC took) but Beane was shy on moving up.

All-pro Teller is an F? Or maybe the trade is an F?

Its interesting to me how there is always another story to defend Bills players not playing great.

Knox, among TE's, was 17th in receptions and 14th in yards. With a top 3 QB. That's kind of the definition of average.

Good post. I struggled the most with Knox. I can see an arguement for him being better than 'average' but least year wasn't kind to the "knox is going to be elite" argument outside of a few amazing plays.

SDS will definitely franchise him.

I know a lot of people see some elite qualities with him, but i'm talking about his overall play so far. As soon as Von goes out, we never saw Rousseau do anything above average again.

I searched before posting and we don't have a topic like this recently. Closest we had was a guy bashing Beane's draft record but didnt list any picks or give any real reason. This is a thread where people can all rate each player. And also, feel free to stay out of threads you don't like. No one forced you to click.