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Honestly I think there are quite a few people buying. I haven’t been the only one saying it. Agreed on that. But just as impossible to prove that external factors derailed the season. Best you’ll get is a player making an excuse because no player or coach is going to admit the other team was flat out better. Ego. .

Before Damar was injured, in game 1, Cinci walked down the field and scored. Then got the ball back and was walking down the field again when Damar went down. We could not stop them. They were getting ready to blow our doors off with Damar playing! They’re just better right now. Nothing to do with psychology. It’s not difficult to see when one team is simply better than the other. Even going back to the first matchup that was cancelled.

Which is exactly what people are doing with excusing the Cinci game away due to the Damar situation. We lost because Cinci is better. We looked flat because Cinci is better. We looked defeated because Cinci is better. And we looked shell shocked because every player knew there was nothing they could do because Cinci is better. I find blaming the loss on the Damar situation or any other external factor rather disgusting. Feels like a forum of wannabe psychologists pretending they’ve analyzed the situation and determined that the team was so deeply burdened by a player going down three weeks and two wins prior, that they simply couldn’t muster the will to go on. Bleh!

I read it just fine. The point just flew over your head. They were upset that they couldn’t get him signed after giving up so much for him in draft picks. KC realized they got hosed. He was the worst LT in the playoffs last season giving up 11 pressures in 3 games. The Chiefs won the SB despite him. He ranges from average to suck. PS, the fact that Brown only got a 4 year, $68M contract in Cinci is another sign of how bad Andry Reid is at linemen. It’s his only downside. He is amazing at everything else. He offered the guy a 6 year, $139M deal. He was willing to pay a mediocre linemen tens of millions dollars more than he was worth. .

Hope you're right! Why was he still available on such a short deal?

lol I haven't even read the entire thread but I can all but guarantee there is someone in here talking about how amazing this move was and how underrated it was and how Beane is a master.

Thank goodness.

Same. Sal knows a lot and is pretty well connected by now, but he REFUSES to use that network to his advantage because he is afraid of angering the Bills brass. I'll never forget the Boston media literally laughing at the softball questions our media asks after games. It was embarrassing.

Brady has 7 diamonds without much pressure in the division.

Rodgers has been nutty for years. While winning MVPs.

This lame fraternity bro response is expected but still disappointing. There is a valley of difference between being scared and being realistic.

Yes. And even with him being great, we have flamed out in the playoffs 4 years in a row. And we flamed out, despite not having to go through a tough divison. Now we are going to have a tough division to deal with, and it'll be much harder.

Considering the reports are that the Chiefs were "frustrated" and "disappointed" by Orlando Brown... yeah, I do think they regret the trade. 2 years of mediocre-to-bad LT play, paying him top dollar one of those years, and then leaves. https://arrowheadaddict.com/2022/07/19/kc-chiefs-frustrated-disappointed-orlando-brown-jr/

With at least a 50% fail rate. Or… teams just don’t see next years picks as devalued by a round. The other side of the coin is that by the devalue logic, teams should be begging other teams to take their good players in exchange for picks. So they can get a bunch of cost controlled players.

You’re using the false fallacy that the end result means every move before that was good. Orlando Brown was not good. He gave up 11 pressures in the playoffs. That’s almost as many as some LT’s gave up all last season (17 games). You won the SB despite Orlando Brown. Not because of. Defenders blowing by him and pressuring Mahomes was not the key to victory. Trey Smith was a trade with the Jets. Not Ravens. And you could have taken Bolton AND a LT AND Trey Smith without ever trading for Brown, AND kept $16M in cap.

That’s the thing. If NFL teams really devalued next years picks, then we would be seeing mass swaps of future picks. Trade next years 1st round pick every year - it’s just a 2nd round pick after all - and load your team with players that have already proven themselves in the NFL.

Well if you’re friends with NFL GM’s then I won’t argue with you. I’ll be skeptical but I won’t argue. But in that case, we should be trading our next years 1st round picks every year for quality NFL players, since it’s only a 2nd round pick. Right?

According to who? Show me the NFL team that has released data on how they value trades. It doesn’t exist. Last we heard, NFL teams have all but scrapped that old chart in favor of proprietary charts they make in house and you don’t have access to. No one said it wasn’t a 2nd. You seem to be fighting a battle that isn’t in contention. Though the old chart is useless now since teams have changed it and we don’t know the new values, it probably is *somewhere* around a high to mid 2nd round pick. But all I said was the Chiefs got hosed and I stand by that. The funny part is that if you go to ChiefsPlanet, they say the same thing. Top 5 money and a plethora of picks for a mediocre LT that was the weak link in their line. .

Trey Smith was taken with the pick you got from Carolina. You can try to rationalize it because KC selected Bolton, but the fact is that they could have taken Bolton with the #31 pick too. In all, KC gave up a 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 5th in exchange for a medicare LT that gave up 11 pressures in the playoffs a 2nd and a 6th. And they only got that mediocre player for 2 years and one of those years they had to pay him top 5 money. Your own fans at ChiefsPlanet know the trade sucked. There’s a whole thread about it. There was no “pro bowl quality LT” about it. He’s painfully mediocre and i’m very happy Cinci overpaid him.

I’m not discounting a draft pick because it was next years instead of this years. It was a 5th round pick.

I agree the players lost the game, but an honorable mention must go toward whichever coach made the decision to play 10 yards off the Cinci WR’s. Watching Reid and his coaching staff play press man the following week against those same WR’s was an indictment. Still would have lost, but it’s not a good look.

I think you mean the Rams. Who beat the Bengals in the SB last year and then we’re awful last season. But it’s the same argument fans keep trying to make so they stay in a state of peaceful denial. Regular season accomplishment's are for the birds. Think about what you just wrote and how sad it is. You’re clinging onto the hope offered by a Week 1 game where we beat up a team that ended up being quite bad.

Then you purposefully omitted it. Which is even worse than forgetting. It’s being dishonest. No. The 5th round pick went to Baltimore. KC gave up a 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 5th round pick.

You forgot the 3rd, 4th and 5th picks they gave up too. As far as “cost controlled” goes… he had the 2nd highest base salary of all LT’s in the NFL last season. And the 5th highest cap hit of all LT’s. For an average linemen. KC got hosed.

Not because of Orlando Brown. Considering he gave up 11 pressures in the playoffs lol. To put that into perspective, Trent Williams gave up 15 pressures ALL SEASON. Brown gave up, in 3 playoff games, nearly what other linemen give up in an entire season. But yeah, he’s the reason Reid won the SB. lol. This is great for us. So foolish of the Bengals. .