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If we get Dhop, I don’t think Gabe Davis is even on the team anymore. I think he’d be headed to Arizona as part of the trade package.

Allen will be in his 30’s in five years. And with his playing style, who knows how banged up he’ll be. Hate to say it, but look at how quickly Cam fell off. Allen is better, but physical play has the chance of shortening anyones career. We need to go all-in when he’s in his 20’s. If Beane had made the trade for Von in 2021, instead of the Rams, the Bills have a lombardi right now in my opinion. All we needed is 1 extra stop against the Chiefs. Von would have given us that. .

They see what’s going on, even if some fans want to ignore it. - Miami has gotten a lot better this off-season. Fangio alone was a huge get. Add in Ramsey, who even if overrated is better than what they had, and Long who a good downhill thumping LB, and it’s gotten harder to beat them. - The Jets beat us with that 18 year old they have at QB. Their defense is incredible. Not fake incredible like Mcd/Frazier’s. But actually incredible. They add Rodgers and things get real sticky. Rodgers would could put up only 20ppg and they would still likely make the playoffs.

You’re right. Thanks. I’m still learning how to do this. It’s the neurodivergency.

Finally got a picture of the Allen signed jersey. Its the pride and joy of my collection so it stays under plastic and in darkness.

I too see this all over the forum. Fans who scoff at the idea of the Jets and Dolphins catching up to us next season. Which is incredible, considering both teams put a loss in our loss column this past season. That Jets defense is actually dominant. Not fake dominant like McD/Frazier’s defense. And keeps them in every game. Add Rodgers and they will be a pain in the ass. The Dolphins we’re already a pain in the ass and they’ve only gotten better. Adding Fangio was a great move, and whether you think Ramsey is overrated or not, he’s still better than what they had. They signed a good thumping LB too. The Dolphins got better which is not good considering we barely beat them with a 3rd string QB starting. .

Not at all. I love the Bills. Nearly broke my fist pounding on the TV stand when Gabe Davis caught the go-ahead TD in KC in the 2021 playoffs. Its after the game, when I see the mistakes and inept decisions by management where I become bitter.

Bingo and it's something many posters refuse to admit. Beneath all the "abstract" this and that and long posts that say nothing, lies the truth. Which is the Bills hadn't looked good since October. They lost to Zach Wilson, blew a double digit lead against the Vikings, barely beat the Lions, were about to get our doors blown off in Cincinnati, and it took everything in our arsenal to squeak by a 3rd string led Miami team in the first round of the playoffs. The Cinci game was not a one off. It was the standard by that point.

Have you moved on from o-line to overall ranking? Not sure what's happening here. The Bills were the best team in the NFL for half the season before falling apart in Nov/Dec/Jan. So a top ranking makes sense since PFF uses whole season aggregate data. Not just end-of-season data.

Yes sir, this is where we differ. I think the Bengals roster as currently constructed is just a better roster than ours. Mainly because they hit on their draft picks, so they have premium talent on rookie deals. Not just a QB, but great WR's and defensive players on rookie deals. Beane talked about it here: To be clear, I hope I'm wrong. I hope you're right. Because if I'm wrong, that means we should go right back to dominating when the 2023 season starts and the players have all gotten over their trauma. I trust PFF more than myself, so I'll admit i'm wrong on this one. Not sure why their individual power/rush/open field statistics are so poor and their ranking is so high. Kinda odd.

The Rams literally just won the SB last year while having the 8th worst "stuffed" rate, 4th worst power run rank, 4th worst power success rank, bottom 10 in open field, and bottom half of the league in yards per rush. They were top 10 in sacks given up, though so were the Eagles who went 9-8 and the Vikings who went 8-9 and the Chargers who went 9-8. None of them made the playoffs.

No problem. I'll return the favor. No that's just another way for them to say "we didn't try hard enough". They're not admitting the other team is better, they're admitting the other team was better "today" because they didnt do enough "that day". Ego. It's like a child saying "you didnt beat me, you just got lucky!" Your other quotes i've never seen a player ever make. I have never ever seen a player say; "their team is just plain better - no other way around it". I'm sure its happened at some point, but its certainly not common. Well, obviously. Those examples have nothing to do with a medical issue we all saw on national TV. From that moment on it was a built-in excuse because everyone saw it happen. Its an EASY excuse to say "that Damar thing that happened 3 weeks and 2 wins ago is why I sucked today". Workers around the world are expected to get back to work 3 days after a loved one passes away. And its not expected for their work quality to just plummet. Others have talked about seeing a co-worker keel over and die in their office job, factory job, farming job, whaetever. They were expected to go right back to work. And no, companies don't expect your work quality to be terrible, THREE WEEKS after, just because you saw a coworker leave in an ambulance. The entire argument is absolutely ridiculous and ignores how the rest of the world works, just because it's a football team. Its a completely odd thing to watch grown humans make every excuse in the world for athletes. If you're under the impression that I think the Bengals would beat us 10 out of 10 times, well, that's just absurd. The Bengals wouldn't beat the worst team in the league 10 out of 10 times. Thats not how the NFL works. The better team wins maybe 7 out of 10 times, as you said. Sounds like you agree the Bengals are just the better team. .

Sounds like a bills versus patriots game for the better part of 17 years. Them scoring touchdowns, and us consoling ourselves by saying we were almost in the end zone.

“If only the team decided to play well” is by far the funniest argument i’ve heard people make. It looked that way because we were outmatched. It looked the exact same before the Damar injury in the first matchup. It was a carbon copy. Arm wrestle a child and they’ll look like they never showed up either. It’s what an opponent looks like when they’re completely outtalented and outmatched and outcoached. If desire led to winning we would have a roster full of Rudy’s. I agree we had the talent to make it closer than it was, but we lose either way in my opinion. The team was defeated by the start of the second half because they realized they were outmatched. .

Generally speaking, great players get another opportunity from SOMEONE. If Mahomes tore both knees tomorrow, he would get the chance to come back. With great players, some team gives them a chance to be on their roster for at least a season after an acl, or achilles, or whatever, because of how good they are. This happens all the time. We’re about to play Von Miller at age 34 coming off of TWO acl injuries in his career. All 3 of the players I mentioned were great at points in their career but by the time they had those injuries they were going downhill fast. That’s why no team gave them another opportunity. One of them was on their 3rd team in 4 years for goodness sakes. Another one was playing on a one year contract. Reid sucks at o-line evals and the o-line only got good once Veach took over as GM. His lines were bottom 15 in the league for half his time in KC before Veach. I’m done talking about Chiefs stuff in a Bills thread but figured i’d at least give you some background of what I meant.

Why is it so hard for people to admit that we are just not as good as the opponent?

You were correct. And the Jets nailed that draft.

Im glad you confirmed this because I thought it felt quite boring compared to previous years.

I’m genuinely tired with arguing about Chiefs stuff on a Bills forum though. Go ahead and have the last word/dig - slander is the tool of the loser - I won’t respond.

I remember the Osemele situation well. It was only a few years ago. He was washed up (Jets literally got him for a 6th rd pick if I remember right). He got his own surgery and he wasn’t good enough to care about cutting so they cut him. What’s your point? I’ve shown numerous reasons Reid is bad at evaluating. Half of the years he was in KC pre-Veach he had a bottom 15 defense, for example. Osemele and Schwartz were washed up in 2020 and that line was bad before they got hurt, and just got worse. His o-line evaluation skills are a big bone of contention on ChiefsPlanet. You not wanting to believe doesn’t matter to the truth.

Jumping into a conversation mid-thread is going to leave you confused. No one is saying the Chiefs line isn’t good right now. They brought in Veach to fix the line and fix the line he did. We are talking about when Andy Reid in charge of it. When the Chiefs gave up like 10 sacks or whatever to the Bucs, and before that when he has a bottom 15 line for half of his years. .

Osemele was toast by the time he joined the Chiefs. You mention his one all-pro year that happened on a completely different team. Not just his previous team, but his previous previous team. Several years before he was on the Chiefs, who picked him up after he was CUT by the Jets after one season. Or there is Mitchell Schwartz who was playing on a one year deal that season he got injured because he was toast too. .

Some vague comment in an article that Reid prioritized line? What’s their to say? That he was bad evaluating even as he priorities it? Chiefs have had a bottom 15 o-line for at least half of his years there. And how many of those 3 ever played another down in the NFL? I know the answer. The line was bad before they went down. .

How many of those 3 ever played another down in the NFL? I know the answer. The line was bad before they went down. Visit ChiefsPlanet and see for yourself.