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For those saying “this is what we voted for…”
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Wow - I’m really glad I started this thread. Thanks JDHF. -
For those saying “this is what we voted for…”
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This is one of the better posts I’ve seen here in some time. 👍 -
For those saying “this is what we voted for…”
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Totally fair. Maybe we can all agree the two candidates (and again, I barely consider Harris a candidate since we didn’t get to choose her) were about as low on the totem pole as you could get? But I like your take that it wasn’t a vote for one person, rather the party that matches your ideologies. Thanks. -
For those saying “this is what we voted for…”
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So - and not judging, legit asking - trans athletes were a bigger issue for you and others than things that impact folks daily, like price of their consumer goods increasing? For the record, I am a registered Dem (duh ) and I agree with you on the men in women’s sports topic. It is interesting to me that no one gave two craps about women’s sports until this, but I digress as I agree with you. As far as Covid, won’t get into that argument, but let’s say I disagree to a point (I don’t 100%, it’s more nuanced in my opinion, but it certainly wasn’t handled well in retrospect) are you saying you vote was more anti-dem than pro Trump? That’s Ok if so, and I get that as my vote certainly wasn’t “pro” Kamala since I never got the chance to pick my candidate after they brought Joe out of his padded room for the debate heard round the world. Thanks for engaging! -
One thing that confuses me about the current defense of Trumps tactics are those that state he’s doing exactly what he said he would. Curious as to the thoughts of those that are defending Trump by saying “this is what he promised,” “we knew what we were getting,” etc. How do you respond to this? Understanding many of these videos are often edited heavily this one is truly clips of the man himself and his “promises.” Does this upset you? Do you just consider this another example of him just “being Donald the blowhard?” Do you think folks less knowledgeable and less economically stable than most here thought he would actually do the things he said in this video? Or they “knew” he would do the opposite and for some reason voted for him anyway? (standard disclaimer that I think Biden was top 3-4 worst presidents of all time). Im truly not trolling. I would love to get some conversation going with folks I respect on the other side of the isle like @B-Man and @JDHillFan, (and others). Let’s see if we can be civil. Was this just a case of a politician being a politician and making promises to get votes? My concern is that his promises and his actual actions are polar opposites. Do you think this “temporary pain” is truly going to help folks financial situations “eventually” and how long will that take? https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHcAf9UOc6i/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
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Another eye roll. Good one! No wonder literally no one can stand you here, @Homelander . What’s your goal on this board? To be the petulant child that you claim is the reason you hate Trump. Eyeroll this one too, but you’re currently no better than the MAGAs you talk about. Starting to think you’re a MAGA yourself and just trolling poorly. 🙄
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Posts like that should narrow the divide. 🙄 Did you see what all three said? They don’t like the man, they wish he would shut up, but for the most part, they like his policies and what’s he’s done more than they dislike the persona. I will say I couldn’t disagree with them more on the politics, can’t even imagine thinking that way; but if we ever have a chance of the country not being at each others’ throats constantly, those are the things we should discuss. I’m not jumping ship. And there are certainly some on here on the right that are nothing but trolls (I’m being nice tonight, maybe just a small attempt at lessening the vitriol here, so I won’t name him but you know who I mean. Uses an up arrow so he can pretend he has the world on ignore; as if that’s some badge of honor. And another who literally only talks hate, never adding to the conversation.) But these three gave reasonable answers to my post. You have to agree there. Or maybe you don’t and let’s just keep calling each other names in perpetuity.
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This is the most refreshing thread I’ve seen in quite some time. Well, minus my fellow democrat here. @Homelanderwe were doing so well. The Rs were making valid points and were talking about Trump the man at the moment. We’ll never ever find common ground when the “other side” is engaging someone like me in legit adult talk and you come in a crap on it. Pump the brakes every once in a while man. You and I are much more aligned politically than we are with B-Man and JD but they’re not ***** enemies. We didn’t select Harris. Of all the things people call corrupt I’m shocked there’s not more talk about how that went down. Biden has a horrible debate after being locked in a basement for a year like Jake Fromm, then we dems don’t get to decide who replaces him.
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We certainly disagree on him turning the country around, you’re right. But that’s the politics part. The part we’re supposed to be talking about here. And be makes it so easy to dismiss anything positive he’s done because he acts like a spoiled 7th grade doofus daily. But I appreciate both your and @JDHillFan’s reply here. Basically, you know he has personality flaws (I’m being nice to have a civil conversation) because you feel he’s SUCH a good POTUS, the antics are worth it. Fine, maybe I’ll stop calling him your deity. But just you two, to start. 🙂 I’d still disagree with most of his policies if he acted like an adult, but the phone book long list of embarrassing things he does and says makes me truly baffled that the GOP couldn’t find an adult to do the job (remember, I think Biden stunk too). Ok, back to the RFK thread. This being civil feels weird.
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That’s fair. And I edited that (good call out) and added to it. But his blowhard tactics are ***** embarrassing, B-Man. I won’t go all RFK opinion on him; that man makes my blood boil and I end up looking like some of the faaar lefties on here, as I truly believe his “blowhard tactics” are a danger to children (and maybe as a new dad that’s why I get so vested/emotional about it) but for god sakes, can’t Trump have the policies without acting like a child? I have to assume when you watch the news sometimes you cringe? Or say to your wife (or anyone else close to you) “man I wish he would calm it with this nonsense.”
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Inciting violence? That’s a stretch. The ***** president of the United States posting something this juvenile? I just can’t phantom how his supporters aren’t humiliated by this guy. i mean it would be odd for any 79 year old; but the leader of the free world? Does nothing he does embarrass you guys? Dare you to reply without mentioning Biden. Just think how bizarre you’d find it if any other head of state used social media this much, much less to post memes. Of himself. Hitting a musician with a golf ball. It’s the oddest behavior and you all just can’t ever admit he’s an overgrown middle schooler. Weird. Violent? Come on. But weird as *****.
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Luckily we had Trump to save us from the “Shamdemic” with operation warp speed. Thanks for the vaccine so quickly, Donnie! 👍👍👍 The second it was announced, they had their conspiracy theories lined up as always. No point in trying to educate anyone who actually voted for Donald Trump to lead the country. Haven’t you learned that yet? Edit: and sorry to correct you on this one, but it’s not the Gleason 9, it’s stage 9 cancer. I heard the president of the United States say so himself today.
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THAT GUY ISNT THE ***** PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES My point is that your orange daddy came out today to fuel this. For what? He literally has zero self control. What was the point in going on TV to rile up his dolts? He’s doing sooooo much “winning” that he shouldn’t have time to be a disrespectful piece of trash. Thank you!
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Seems your case of BDS is far worse than mine. Funny how none of you dare speak ill of your orange daddy and how he just can’t help himself from looking like of complete ***** piece of trash but waiting less than 24H to comment on his theory. “Stage 9 cancer.” I’m glad he at least heard the number 9, but again, embarrassing himself. And you all just can’t call him on it. It’s so ***** odd. I guess he was too busy commenting on how handsome the head of ***** Syria is to learn self control.
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Fine. It was a cover up. NO other president would have said anything other than condolences. He is such an embarrassment. Like I said, he won. His former opponent got a death sentence. Move the ***** on. But he just can’t help himself. Be a grown up and let the trolls online talk about their “theories.” Obese 79 year old toddler with the worst case of BDS ever.
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I honestly didn’t read his comment. He’s disgusting and like I said too far gone. But it took less than 24H for you MAGAs to take your “prayers up” to instantly start diagnosing him as having this during his administration. Or for a decade. Or whatever the “doctors” here decided. Disgusting, on both side. Happy now? And as far as your deity talking about it today: you won. he’s going to die. chill the ***** out you man-child. I mean seriously, doesn’t he ever embarrass you? Could you imagine any other prior president being such a giant toddler that he would say anything other than condolences? Talk about ***** living rent free - Biden takes up so much space in that tiny brain he couldn’t help himself. I mean I understand that he’s super concerned about a ***** concert today, and mentioned that Joe has “stage 9” cancer, clearly confusing his terms, but my god what a national embarrassment. Say your condolences and then move onto the job. He’s such an unbelievably soft man. ***** joke. And embarrassment to our country. And you all just follow along. Disgusting. And yes, what TH3 said was also disgusting. It’s not mutually exclusive.
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Ah, I see the MAGA trash have turned this into a cess pool thread. I figured at least this news couldn’t possibly get them worked up and spewing filth. You’re truly the worst of the worst. And it’s not like you weren’t before; your orange daddy just made trash feel comfortable about being openly trash.