Shake_My_Head
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Just now, Motorin' said:
Were you a Rosen is the right Josh guy too?
Deflecting much?
Where are the first round CBs in that list of 130? Winfield jumps out, but I don't see much else.
I'm actually a big fan of McDuffie, BTW. I love his intangibles and he may be the reincarnation of Antoine Winfield Sr. But as a boundry CB in today's pass-happy NFL, that's a pretty big leap of faith.
Better that McDuffie play over the slot than outside. But then, why would you spend a top-25 pick on a slot CB? Doesn't seem to be a good use of draft capital.
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44 minutes ago, intimidatortj said:
Doesn't appear so.
Despite everyone insisting that Beane would sign a vet Free Agent before the draft.
It is slightly surprising.
The available vets are probably wating/watching how the draft goes. If the Bills draft a CB in round 1, I can see a FA vet saying "@$!*" and having more intrerest in teams with legit starting opportunities. Things should heat up again next week after every team know what their roster holes are.
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28 minutes ago, Motorin' said:
Your claim is that being in the 11th percentile for arm length is predicative of future success of a specifc player?
I'm not claiming anything. I'm just showing comparables. The list is comprised of CBs invited to the combine, so not just walk-ons or fringe guys.
Just 11% of over 1,200 CB prospects invited to the combine since 1987 is quite a bit of support for arm length being problematic. Here's the complete list of 130, if you want to pull out some successful names.
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On Thursday, 40% of TSW will love the Bills pick, 40% will hate it and 20% will just fart and blame it on the dog.
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13 minutes ago, Motorin' said:
Correlation does not imply causation.
Well, I'd say 35 years of combine measurables supports the hypothisis pretty strongly.
Since 1987, only 130 of the 1,214 CBs measured at the combine (11%) have had arms 29.75" or less. Over the past ten years, only 52 of 537 (less than 10%) have had those arm measurables. Here's the list:
https://nflcombineresults.com/nflcombinedata_expanded.php?year=all&pos=CB&college=
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4 minutes ago, NewEra said:
Sure, i may be doing that.
there’s been 1 good outside corner in the last 34 years that had arms shorter than 30 inches. ONE. We are in need of an outside corner. So let’s draft a guy we hope is the second good corner…..out of thousands.
I’m not saying he’s not good. I like the player… but this is more than just a trend. Like @GunnerBill says…..he’s best in the slot and his upside is lacking. @ pick 25, we’re looking for upside. Not someone to fill a needThinking about it, McDuffie seems like another in a long line of pre-draft "stalking horses" who get a lot of love early on as top-15 picks, but ultimately slide down and into round two.
Meanwhile, we're now starting to pick up the late, late buzz about guys like Lewis Cine, Quay Walker and Logan Hall and who're likely to rise up to round one and where eveybody will go "Whoa! Didn't see that!" when they get picked Thursday night.
So much smoke, very little light--just like every year.
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I love how laid back Josh is about what he wears, both in this article and the one on their California date. Unlike Brittany, he's no fashion plate.
Made for Buffalo, indeed.
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Here's a really neat source of historic combine mesurables data that's sortable by position:
https://nflcombineresults.com/nflcombinedata_expanded.php?year=all&pos=CB&college=
McDuffie's 29.75" arms appear to be a real liability based on all the other CBs drafted over time. Outside of Winfield (29.75"), Arron Glenn (30.0"), Cam Sutton (30.0"), Will Allen (30.0") or even LEODIS F'n MCKELVIN! (30.125") I don't recognize many standout players with shorter arms, let alone first round picks.
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4 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:
Antoine Winfield Sr.
Here's the rest of Winfield's measurables:
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22 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:
Not arguing your point but I saw a quote from Beane today that he feels the Jimmy Johnson point system is terrible. It appears most GMs think it stinks but they don't allow their own point systems be known
I'm sure Johnson's system is very dated now, but it's still probably good enough to ballpark trade scenarios.
My point is that trading down and adding more picks in the 35-60 range would yield solid prospects who could contribute this year and move into starting roles next year, especially if they move on from Poyer, Edmunds, Saffold, Crowder, Howard, Singletary, etc.
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Seattle is rumored to want a QB at the end of round one. Trading picks 25 and 57 to the Seahawks for picks 40, 41 and 109 (per the Jimmy Johnson point system) is something I'd like to see Beane pull off.
The Bills could then go RB (Hall or Walker), DB (Cine, Gordon or Cross), WR (Burks, Dotson, Metchie) or BPA with players that would surely help a lot this year and beyond.
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On 4/20/2022 at 8:21 AM, SoCal Deek said:
Populous is known for producing very contemporary designs. I’m not sure how appropriate that is for suburban WNY and I’m a bit concerned that they’ll produce what we call an ‘object building’ and thus be forced to cut the functional corners that Bills fans would prefer over some iconic structure only visible by the relatively few people who attend home games.
Scott Radecic (Populous' senior principal) is VERY familiar with Buffalo as he played here. That's actually sort of incredible, when you think about it--what other new stadium can say a former player was invoved in its design.
I have no doubt that Populous will design a beautiful, WNY-friendly stadium, not some generic monolith.
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21 hours ago, gobills404 said:
I know Breece Hall is the correct answer here but I don’t think there’s a shot he lass til 57 in the real draft. More realistically I would freaking love to get Chenal as Edmunds replacement in 2023. Straight up beast against the run and as a blitzer with the athleticism needed to develop into a stud in coverage as well.
IDK. He's great against the run, but McD's defense requires the LBs to drop and cover on pass plays. Chenal doesn't appear to be very experienced there and his lack of length works against him. He just doesn't seem that scheme-specific to the Bills, IMO.
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A very puchable face.
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Good on Beane. Bring as many NFL-quality OL to camp and let the best men win. Lots of competition, as everyone will be starting from scratch with Kromer.
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3 hours ago, Doc Brown said:
Drew Brees made out okay.
So did Cole Beasley--who's the EXACT same size and speed as Robinson.
IMO, the Bills very much value what Beasley provided from the slot--a dependable outlet for Josh, a clutch chain mover on third downs. McKenzie and Crowder are going to fill that role this year--but it's wide open for 2023 and beyond. Having a cost-controlled Beasley-type slot WR for 3-4 years makes a LOT of sense.
John Metchie III or Kahilil Shakir would other guys to consider for that slot role as well.
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1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said:
He's not very fast for a guy who is small. Its hard in the NFL to be small and slow.
Cole Beasley says hello.
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Exactly the same size as Cole Beasley 5'8" 178 lbs.
Per Dane Brugler (The Athletic):
STRENGTHS: Versatile weapon with dynamic open-field athleticism ... instinctive field vision to skirt tacklers and weave through the defense ... tough to tackle one-on-one thanks to lateral agility and balance ... uses speed releases to slip the jam and quickly enter his routes ... catches the ball cleanly in stride without gearing down ... able to adjust and make diving grabs when necessary ... in his element on swing/flare routes ... was also used as a running back, averaging 4.9 yards per carry (141/691/4) ... toughness (with or without the ball) definitely belongs in the strengths column, and head coach Mark Stoops refers to him as the “ultimate competitor” ... productive junior season as one of only three FBS players to average 8.0 catches or better per game.
WEAKNESSES: Undersized with below-average height, weight, length and growth potential ... smaller target for his quarterback ... can make guys miss, but doesn’t have the run strength to consistently break tackles ... lacks elite speed, and can be caught from behind ... needs to improve the pacing and setup of his routes ... hohum in contested situations ... physical cornerbacks can slow him and disrupt his timing ... worked primarily out of the slot, and unproven outside the numbers ... minimal punt-return experience, averaging just 2.1 yards per return (7/15/0).
SUMMARY: A one-year starter at Kentucky, Robinson worked primarily out of the slot in offensive coordinator Liam Coen’s scheme (a discipline of Sean McVay). After two mediocre seasons with Nebraska, he transferred back home for the 2021 season and had the most prolific receiving season in Kentucky history, setting school records for catches (104), receiving yards (1,334) and 100-yard receiving games (six). Robinson is hyper-quick and slippery to create pockets of separation out of his breaks and elude pursuit after the catch. He has excellent field awareness with the ball in his hands, but his routes are a little rough, and he has more career drops (11) than receiving touchdowns (10).
Overall, Robinson is undersized and quicker than fast, but he is a catch-and-go creator with outstanding vision and athleticism in the open field. He has potential to be a starting NFL slot receiver and return man.
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Self-promotion is the American way.
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6 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:
Rodgers is a 5, Brady & Mahomes are 8's. What's Josh's handicap (besides McD) ?
It's a 9, according to this article:
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Name some good outside cornerbacks with sub 30 inch arms.
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And away you go...