Me too, I think they can contend with us though. Do you think for both teams their records are indicative of their talent? I think if Tua is healthy they're behind us still but not nearly as bad. Let's not forget, they had a bit of a lead on us last year. As for the Jets they're more complicated. Bringing in Rodgers might have been a good move. Bringing his buddies (HACKETT) not so much.