SaulGoodman

The two-time defending champs and winners of 12 straight (vs the best teams in the league) needs to be pushed over the top? If Hopkins is healthy-ish, he's a big upgrade over any WR on KC's active roster right now. Plus, there's a pretty good chance that Hollywood Brown returns, and maybe sooner than most expect. Smith-Schuster will also be back. That receiving corps would be vastly better than what they've entered the postseason with the last two years.

Who are all these divas on the Chiefs' roster?

I’d say it’s massively overstated. They’re currently down their top 3 WRs, including a player who was pacing for 1600, plus their best RB and top edge rusher, with Mahomes playing at his worst, and they’re 6-0 vs the toughest schedule in the league.

KC’s down 3 of their top 4 offensive weapons. And their young LTs are struggling. They don’t have enough firepower right now to expect dominance.

People here tend to go to the extreme on both ends. Overreaction to the first three weeks, and now an overreaction to the last two. A lot of people were expecting a mini-rebuild. They lost a lot of talent and replaced it with less-accomplished free agents and rookies.

4's a lot less than 11, and there's a big difference between fistfighting another male and beating a female.

Comparing Rice to someone who assaulted his pregnant girlfriend? Among the other scummy things he's done to women.

Is Von Miller scum too? Should he be in prison?

If you've followed Andy Reid's career, you know that rookie WRs almost never burst out of the gates. You're lucky if they produce by the end of their rookie season. He just requires them to learn so much more than most coaches ask of their rookies, and the offense is more complex than most. With that in mind, Worthy's done great so far. Almost 200 total yds and 3 TDs, while sharing the field with Kelce and an extremely high-usage WR. With multiple flashy plays and great ball-tracking skills. Couldn't ask for too much more at this point. He also passed the test of stepping up in Rice's absence with flying colors.

Week 4 sure changed a lot of narratives around here…

It’s almost like they should’ve waited until something substantial was accomplished before chest-beating.

Man, it's hard to keep up with the changing narratives around here...

Kelce had a big game vs Baltimore in the AFCC, but he’s clearly been declining the last few years.

And people should stop pretending that Mahomes has consistently had everything a QB could want, when that’s far from the case. In the ‘22 AFCC, he was throwing to MVS, Skyy Moore and a practice squad guy, while hobbled with a high ankle sprain. The defense was average at best. It would be very hard for a rational person to argue he was in a better situation than Allen.

Not sure how stating opinions makes someone “butthurt.” I’d say that’s a better description for the posters responding to my takes.

Like I’ve said, it varies. Mahomes had a solid advantage for a few years (but during the years that Allen wasn’t the QB he is now), a couple years were a wash, and the last few years I’d say Allen had the advantage. ‘22 for sure. Multiple sources ranked the Bills’ ‘22 roster #1 in the NFL. And PFF has rated several of their rosters as comparable or better than KC’s. Unbiased analysts don’t agree with you.

Agreed. Which is another reason I think it’s crazy when people claim that Allen would have accomplished as much or more in Mahomes’ position. In the years that Mahomes had a much better supporting cast, Allen wasn’t ready.

So, two defenses outperformed Buffalo's in that run. That doesn't mean that 27 points was insurmountable. But only SF's defense was overly successful vs KC, and not when it mattered most. Reid went very conservative in the 2nd half vs both Miami and Baltimore. When they needed plays, they got them. I wouldn't expect Allen to have quite the record that Mahomes has in the playoffs. But there's a huge difference between 15-3 and 5-5, and 4 SB appearances/3 rings vs 0. Especially when most of Allen's are WC or divisional games. If Allen is everything Bills fans claim he is, it's definitely fair to expect more.

I won't deny that board tends to be more crude than others, but most of the posters don't take it too seriously. It's just schtick in 90% of cases. Can you explain what I said that's wrong?

Regardless of what's happened in a few playoff games, Allen has arguably the best defensive head coach in the game right now. He also has an excellent OC, and Daboll was great before him. Meanwhile, Mahomes' OC is currently holding KC's offense back. Unbiased parties like PFF have rated several of Allen's rosters either on par with KC's or better. Allen's had several years of an equal or better offensive cast than what Mahomes had the last two years. His D has been better every year but one. Kelce and Hill were a nice combo in the early years, but that's two players, and the defense was never above average while Hill was on the roster. Mahomes has often faced teams with better overall rosters and usually comes out on top. All four SB opponents were clearly more stacked than KC, yet the Chiefs won 3 of 4. The "he needs a great cast" line rings pretty hollow given that he's won both Super Bowls since Tyreek left, with weak receivers and weak tackles both years. Let's see Allen win a SB with Juju Smith-Schuster and MVS as his top two WRs, an average at best defense, and a high ankle sprain. Or an AFC title game with MVS, Skyy Moore and a practice squad player as his top WRs. Are you telling me that roster was loaded? Teams have rarely let a QB down more than in the 2020 SB. Mahomes was running for his life the entire game (probably the worst OL play ever in a SB), yet he was still making great throws and gave the team a chance. Unfortunately for him, his receivers dropped numerous throws that hit either their facemask or hands (including three would-be TDs). His defense was torn apart, the running game did nothing, and his teammates piled up penalties. For every postseason game that Allen's defense let him down, Mahomes has a couple of his own. Aside from that one, there was the AFC title game vs NE. 37 points allowed at home, capped by Dee Ford's blunder. Mahomes never saw the ball again after getting his team in position for a tying FG in under 30 seconds. The defense allowed 35 vs the Eagles, but Mahomes still won. They allowed 36 vs the Bills (also, Butker missed multiple kicks) and put him in a hole with 13 seconds left. Still won. In '19, he was in a double digit hole in every playoff game, and won every game by double digits. Against Houston, his team put him in a 24-0 hole thanks to a comedy of errors. He had the lead by halftime and scored 51 straight points or whatever. To date, there's one playoff loss that Mahomes deserves blame for (out of 18 total playoff starts). Cincinnati in '21. And even that amounted to a handful of bad plays in the second half, after a nearly perfect first half. Something that's never mentioned when people make comparisons of playoff stats is the difference in competition. The defenses that Allen's faced have been considerably weaker on average. That's because he's only been past the divisional round once, while Mahomes is in the AFCC at a minimum every year. Facing those SF defenses, Baltimore last year, etc is not the same as Houston, IND, Miami, etc. Mahomes has put up ridiculous numbers in the early rounds of the playoffs. Why's it so hard for Bills fans to admit that Allen hasn't been perfect? That 10 points wasn't good enough vs Cincy? Or 19 in OT vs a mediocre Houston team? Or that the defense won the game vs Baltimore (17-3)? That he could've been a lot better in the AFCC game in '20? That he could've made more plays in the last matchup vs KC, and fumbled at the worst possible time? Or that he could have positioned his team better in playoff seeding in some seasons.

Congrats on leading the NFL in hype after week 3.

So is he widely hyped or disrespected? I've seen a TON of posts here indicating the latter. Whatever fits the argument, eh? If you can't see that Mahomes has had mediocre/bad defense throughout most of his career, and also subpar weapons/OL/running game at times, then you're pretty dense yourself.

The Bills allowed 27 pts vs KC last postseason. In the Mahomes era, KC's defense has allowed 27 or more 6 times. If Bass makes that kick, it's 7 times. They've allowed 30+ pts 5 times and won 3 of them. If you take out the KC games, Buffalo's postseason defensive numbers are solid. If you're expecting to shut down a Mahomes/Reid offense in the playoffs, you're going to be continually disappointed. Did Allen do his part by scoring 10 pts vs Cincinnati? Why couldn't such an incredible talent muster more than 24 vs KC at home last year? Why didn't he score on more than half his drives against a mediocre KC defense that was falling down/blowing coverages every other play in '21? In the '20 AFC title game, Allen was gifted a muffed punt and six points early in the game. Why was his team down 38-15 before garbage time, against a mediocre defense? Who deserves the most credit for the 17-3 postseason win vs Baltimore? Why couldn't Allen lead his team to more than 19 pts in OT the year before?

Three defensive penalties on the Falcons' last drive was sure a weird method for bailing a team out.

And I'd say it's very biased to ignore the fortune in Allen's favor. His teammates recovering his fumble on the last drive, Hardman's goal line fumble, etc. MVS didn't make any spectacular catches. They were pretty routine. You were just surprised to see him actually hold onto the ball. By far the best catch of the game was Shakir's TD.