FilthyBeast

Let's be serious here, yes JA17 is special but he's nowhere close in the conversation with the other 3 QB's mentioned.....and there are many more well ahead of him in that discussion, way too many to even count quite frankly.

You get the sense that JA17 is going to be this generations Marino. A special talent that will never win a championship, in this case not because of a dominant NFC conference/better team in his own division..... but because of the best player in NFL standing in his way. But getting back to Marino, I think many fans take for granted just how great he was in an era that was not built around complex, high flying passes offense like we see in today's NFL.

Unfortunately this is just one of many miscues by this regime. 2024 will be a true year of reckoning sadly for Beane and McDivisional and hopefully the Pegulas finally take action before it's too late.

True but he's still the main reason it's happened. Andy Reid, Chris Jones, Kelce, etc are just along for the ride, albeit important passengers.

The Dolphins are in a similar terrible cap situation like the Bills but don't even have a division title to show for it. Lot of pressure in south beach to navigate a tough situation and finally break through the AFC East next year. And they might just finally be able to do it since the Bills are likely going to take a big step backward with their own salary cap mess to work through.

If JA17 never wins a superbowl in Buffalo this will go down as the worst trade in NFL (and quite frankly pro sports) history. Sean McDivisional will also be the most hated figure in Buffalo sports history as well. I still can't fathom how you make this trade with the guy who fired you in the first place especially after 17 long years of misery and a guy like this falls right into Buffalo's lap. It was destiny, fate and every other cliche you can look for. The Chiefs should have been us period. And now we get to watch them play for and win many more superbowls in the years to come.

I'm still not sure this helps the Bills and other teams in a rough salary cap situation right now. If anything, you are going to see some truly absurd deals thrown around for marginal FA's like Gabe Davis and AJE. And any restructure to free up cap space means you are paying even more money per year to your own guys (i.e. Josh Allen). If it does help the Bills it will be inadvertently with some of KC's stars like Sneed and Jones getting record deals from other teams that the Chiefs simply won't be able to match if money is more important than the 3peat/dynasty (and it usually is). Bengals and Ravens also have a lot of key free agents to monitor as well.

This is no real surprise considering the Chiefs have a history of signing guys with red flags and baggage....which also proves that 'lockerroom culture' doesn't really matter when you have the right head coach, QB, etc. Obviously in Araiza's case he appears to be cleared of wrong doing and knowing the Bills luck he's going to be an all pro punter for the next decade in KC.

This has been discussed in other threads, but the main problem I see here is why any of these guys are going to choose Buffalo to sign with on the cheap when there are going to be much better options elsewhere. And even if you take the obvious out of the equation with the Chiefs, you can argue the Bengals, Ravens, and a plethora of NFC teams are going to be better options for most championship hungry veterans because most are going to understand the Bills have no path to a championship if anything because of the head coach situation.

These threads are always interesting to revisit, but in hindsight talk about what might be the worst deal of Beane's tenure in Buffalo. Even if you consider Kincaid more of a slot WR type of player, there's no justification for Knox to be paid this type of money at the TE position given his production. He also still has serious problems with catching the ball and staying healthy. Best case is that he agrees to a contract restructure that allows him to be traded or released but that's always easier said than done.

Yes but that was for a massive deal....which is a big part of the current cap problem this team is facing right now. I'm talking about veterans that are willing to sign on the cheap for a chance to win a ring....all those guys are likely lining up for a chance to play with the Chiefs this year.

This is just it, regardless what this 53 man roster looks like heading into the start of next season....there's likely going to be key injuries again in terms of both season ending and short term variety. It's just the way things work. And I don't dispute the fact that this team has been unlucky in that area in recent years, but maybe it's time to look at the training staff as one solution. But to the best of my knowledge they haven't changed anything on that front. Also regarding the Chiefs, I've pointed this out and agree....but they did lose Joe Thuney for the AFCCG and Superbowl (a big time injury) and obviously that didn't stop them from being the first team in 20 years to repeat as world champs.

Just thinking more about Groot and this dline as a whole, the fact that this GM and defensive minded head coach has never drafted a player that has managed double digits sacks in a season has me dumbfounded. Yes Floyd did it this year as a FA (despite next to nothing the 2nd half of the season and playoffs) and Miller was certainly on pace for it before his injury in 2022, but all these other draft picks really haven't come close except for Oliver this year. And that's what scares me most about the draft this year because I'm willing to bet they go dline once again in the first round despite all the talk about WR and other areas of need.

I would have fired McDivisional after 13 seconds and have said as much since being here and on social media. You don't come back from that and this year in the playoffs validated that if there was any doubt left....which is why I would have also fired him without thinking twice about it a few weeks ago after losing to the Chiefs for the 3rd time in 4 years and this time in front of your home fans. But apparently because this owner actually must believe coaching isn't the issue and buys all the excuses some of the fans do (i.e. injuries) we are going to keep having this conversation until JA17's prime has passed, retires early, plays elsewhere, etc.

There's no legit veteran FA out there that is going to choose Buffalo over KC if they are looking to win a championship and take less money especially in an offseason where they are gearing up to make history and will be the prohibitive favorite to win a 3rd straight championship. And I think that applies to the Bengals as well because they are the only team in the AFC that can claim a playoff victory over the Chiefs with a healthy Joe Burrow, and the only team that has a chance to stop the Chiefs next season.