BigAl2526

Agree on Butler. Dubenion is before my Bills fandom. Butler had speed and great hands. He was also a great fit in terms of team chemistry. I couldn't tell you what kind of route runner he was as my evaluation skills were even more crude than they are now. If I remember, he was about 6'1" - not super tall but easily suited to be an outside receiver.

If Beane trades up in round 1, it will be by no more than a few spots, probably less than 5. Likewise, I don't think he would trade down too far. no more than 10 spots. I agree that his first pick is highly likely to be on defense. The only way he drafts offense with the first pick (WR) is if all the defensive picks he could justify in the first round are gone and he can't find a trading partner to go down a few spots. I don't think Beane would have any qualms about picking a receiver at #56 if that's where the value is. I don't think a trade down from #62 is especially likely, but it's not impossible.

In the real world I can't see the Bills doubling up on defensive tackle with their first two picks, both of them looking like 1 tech guys. I think Collins could play some 3 tech, but that's not where he projects. Buffalo has a critical need at CB, and could stand a quality outside receiver and some high-quality competition at safety.

Someone should have told him that suicide doesn't earn you a mulligan. If you make stupid mistakes, the best you can do is smarten up and make better choices moving forward. I feel for his family and his victims.

Dorian Williams made major strides last season. I see no reason why he can't eventually succeed Milano. I'm happy to add young blood. Spector is the obvious candidate for replacement.

I don't see the reason for a number of mocks slotting Azareye'h Thomas to Buffalo at #30. He runs a 4.59 40 at a time when Buffalo needs to add some speed to their roster. I'd be OK with Revel in round 1 or Amos/Morrison in round 2. I could live with Thomas in round 2, but that still doesn't address a general lack of speed in the defensive backfield.

Lambert-Smith is average height for a WR (6'1") with 4.37 speed. He's rated a 6th round pick because he has some significant limitations in his game that need to be fixed. Plenty of talent if the Bills could fix his issues.

I saw a 7 round mock today (Draft Countdown, I believe) in which Buffalo picked Collins in Round 4.

I don't recall that Knox had a huge reputation for drops. What I recall is that he converted from a high school QB and was very much underutilized because Mississippi had a couple of big name receivers who got all the targets.

Levi Wallace?

Well, I'd rather have Abdul Carter too, but that's not happening. Burch is a solid run defender and uses his athleticism to get to QBs. He seems to be a bit like Rousseau, only shorter and more stout, (tips the scales at almost 280) but moves as if he were much lighter. I just needs to develop more varied pass rush moves and have a plan on setting up blockers. Good coaching can absolutely help him with that.

Sorry. Missed it. What were you thinking, Bob from NYC?

Also, contracts make it difficult, at least for players with big contracts, and especially big contracts with several years left. Those contracts can make dead cap dollars tough for the team losing the big name player.

I noticed Landon Jackson is still on the board, but not in the poll. He's probably not going to be around in the fourth, but the Bills, knowing that, have still shown a lot of interest. Given those facts, I think probably he should have been listed in the poll.

I voted Jordan Burch. His production doesn't always match his traits which are first round caliber. The Bills will have to judge if he can be coached up. The productivity seems to be due more to technique than effort. It is the end of the second round. You're not getting a flawless prospect here. I declined on the DTs. All are undersized for 1 tech, just more of what Buffalo has already. What they lack is a big bodied dude who is not over the hill and can be relied on to improve run defense as well as free up the 3 techs to create havoc. Another offensive tackle or double up on safety? Give me a break. Not interested in a guard before round 6. I wouldn't mind Bond or Royals.

I voted for Tuimoloau, preferring his physical traits over Swinson. I am less interested in Farmer for the same reason I'm less interested in Nolen as an option in the first round. Farmer is a 3 tech. Buffalo has Oliver as a starter that the Bills like, Dewayne Carter, who may develop as a rotational 3 tech after a rookie season largely lost to injury, and Ogunjobe once his six game suspension has been served and Branson Deen, a PS Squad member. At one tech, they have Daquan Jones, who looked like he hit the career wall last season, and Zion Logue a low rated free agent pickup and PS member from last year. Watts is my second choice.

They are trying to leverage the playoff and Super Bowl success by landing a game with the potential for higher than average advertising revenue. Family Christmas traditions trump football in my household.

I keep remembering the general comments that have been made about this draft. There are precious few certified blue chip first round prospects in the s draft, maybe 10 or 12 at most. Then there is a whole slew of prospects about whom pundits can't agree on relative value, only that they aren't elite and complete. The only circumstance in which Beane should trade up 10 or more spots is if Buffalo's scouting team along with Beane agree that a player is elite with high game changing potential when nobody picking in the top 15 saw the same thing. I think the odds of that happening are slim, but I trust Beane a great deal. He makes mistakes, but I think overall, he's right more often than he he's wrong.

I think Harmon gives you more pass rush than Grant, and also more versatility. He can play both 1 tech and 3 tech though he played a lot more 3 tech for the Ducks. If the Bills picked Harmon at #30, I'd be OK with it. I'd also be happy if Buffalo added a pure 1 tech later in the draft. I definitely would not like a trade up to draft Harmon.

I might have gone with Ezeiruaka if he had been an option. I think he is still on the board. I did go with Amos. I can see teams bulldozing the Bills in the run game if they try to line Ed Oliver up with Nolen on the Bills interior line. Oliver is going to be the DT3 on a majority of snaps. They have to get a guy who is big enough and physical enough to tie up blockers. I just don't see Nolen being that guy.

Yeah, but will Douglas sign for CB3 money?

Cook is very tradeable . . . except the other GM will need to accept having a player who wants to be overpaid and doesn't mind making noise.

Zabel is not a terrible lineman. I don't disagree with any of the positive attributes suggested in the thread so far, but the fact remains that this is a first round pick. Teams are going to at least find an immediate starter in the first round, if not a high impact player. Zabel is not going to start for the Bills in 2025. Maybe he would eventually. He's certainly not a high impact player. for them. I'm not sure he would be for anybody.

Usually, I just do this on my own. That is, I scan through the myriad mock drafts being generated on the internet, and pick out ones that really outdo themselves in terms of the sheer stupidity their picks for the Bills. I thought maybe I could collect suggestions for stupid drafts on this thread. Feel free to contribute. Maybe I can pick a winner myself, or maybe I could do a poll. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. In any case, here is my first nominee: DraftWire has a mock draft authored by Curt Popjoy. It is a three round effort. I admit the second round picks for Buffalo are decent. Trey Amos at #56 seems like a fine pick Kyle Kennard at #62 works as well. It's the first round pick that makes my jaw drop - Gray Zabel offensive tackle from North Dakota State. Really? Granted, he's rated as a late first/early second round value and he's versatile, having experience at all spots on the offensive line, but he's short armed for an NFL tackle, and his athletic profile isn't terribly impressive. He's elite in his vertical jump and excellent in his standing broad jump. but is otherwise pretty average or below. He runs a 5.3 40. Then, of course, he's from North friggin Dakota State. The biggest issue is offensive line is the strongest position group on the whole team except for QB, and the depth might be better than the depth at QB. Still available to Buffalo when they pick are DT Derrick Harmon, WRs Matthew Golden and Emeka Egbuka, CBs Azareye'h Thomas and Shavon Revel, and edge rusher Landon Jackson (whom the Bills reportedly love) Be alert and post your thoughts on terrible picks made for the Bills.

From his college scouting report, he sounds like a younger version of the guy Buffalo used for the past couple seasons. Finesse and altitude, but not a huge leg.