UKBillFan

Considering the relative mess this season has been, just being in is a start. And then it's a case of any given Sunday.

Still need either the Jags or Bills to lose to be in.

Agreed. It'd be nice to go in tomorrow knowing the Bills are in whatever happens. But then it'll be about fighting the number two slot.

The Colts would risk a punt in that scenario. The Texans would not. A tie would suit the Colts as they already hold the tiebreaker over the Texans.

I think I'm right in saying the Pro-Bowl vote opened after Week Ten, which was not Josh's highest point of the season. Can see why coaches, especially, may have taken a step away from him if they voted early. And Mahomes' decline has only really been over the past three weeks.

Sounds familiar...

42 TDs. 14 more than his nearest AFC rival. Yes, he's been inconsistent but what does that say for the rest? ETA - 13. I was looking at Tua rather than Russell Wilson.

😂 I want to congratulate Cook and Dawkins on making the Pro Bowl but at the same time call it a load of… Number of TDs (AFC only): Josh 42, R Wilson 29, Jackson 29, Tua 28, Mahomes 27, Stroud 24 Number of TOs (AFC only): Josh 19, Lawrence 19, Mahomes 17, Tua 17, Minshew 14, Z Wilson 14, Jones 14 And this is admittedly with the offense looking shaky for much of the season. He isn’t deemed good enough for the Pro Bowl but Tua, with 14 less TDs and two fewer TOs, is the number one??? That’s before we even get on to Oliver…

Have they changed it? Is it just one QB from each conference to the pro-bowl now as I thought it was three? If just the one I can fully understand why Jackson (presumably) has been picked ahead of Josh. If it is three, I think I’ll be unimpressed with whoever the other two are. Mahomes isn’t far behind in TOs and has fewer TDs and Tua is reliant on his receiving corps. Perhaps Stroud has got in because of the fairytale storyline they’ve placed on him, despite him looking a shadow of himself when he lost Dell. Completely agree with you and others about Oliver. I suppose Douglas’ issue is he joined the Bills mid season. Not sure how he’d performed for the Packers before then.

Josh generally turns up in the 4th and puts the Bills in a winning position. Whether the defense can then hold on to that is a coin flip. Had they done so against the Pats and the Broncos (more on ST), had the Eagles kicker not managed a freak, he’d probably be right up there without doing anything differently. As you say, QB play has been pretty poor all round this year and, even trying to take my Bills tinted spectacles off, I can’t name two other QBs who have done more for their team in the AFC, Jackson aside.

It’s not just the defeat but who the Bills lost to injury in London as well. Plus the inherent unfairness that the Jags had a week head start despite the game being designated as Bills at home. But the Ravens have lost more than one this year. So have the Dolphins. It’s a killer but there have been other dreadful defeats… arguably all of them but Philadelphia… which could now come back to haunt them.

Score the most number of TDs as a QB… be an alternate. The turnover storyline has really done a number on Josh. Bet Mahomes has still made it, despite his count not being that much lower. Jackson is obvious. Who’s the third? Tua?

Except… huge changes coming? I suppose he may just mean re-working the ageing roster.

Glad everyone is safe. Wouldn’t wish that on anyone.

If the Bills match last season I’d think it a minor miracle as the offense seems to be bottoming out now. I’m concerned about getting passed the likes of the Texans, Steelers and Browns, let alone the Ravens and 49ers.

Would Bucs at Panethers get the alternate team considering there is something riding on the game, whereas there isn't anything on Broncos at Raiders?

I know I keep saying it, but it's annoying because physically he is MVP. He's probably the most rounded football player to take to the field. But when it comes to the mental side of being a QB he struggles more often than not. He chases the buzz of the big play, he fails to read defenses too often, he fails to take easy plays which often results in a missed play. He has so much potential and, despite the stats, there is more to be tapped. I think it starts with a focused close season.

It is a Josh issue, but where players have issues it is down to coaches to help sort them out, unless they are simply not fixable. If so, no one - including Josh - will be able to do much about it.

I'm pretty sure the Bills would have beaten the Jags at OP. Annoying to think they may lose out on the play offs based on Goodell's experiment.

Though the Bills need an OC who can sit down with Josh and mentally beat that into him. They haven't had one to date.

True. Though it could be argued the offense on that day allowed the Broncos to hang around. As they did in Foxborough, albeit the defense also made Mac Jones look like Dan Marino. Then there's the Jets in week one... I'd say the Bills beat themselves in every game they've lost this year excluding the Jags (happy to accept them having one further week in London to adjust was key) and the Eagles (that field goal was ridiculous).

The Ravens beat the 49ers because of Purdy's meltdown/their defense. Jackson did what he had to do. Would still say Hill or McCaffrey are more deserving of the accolade over the season as a whole.

Before this season I would agree, for the most part, but this year he's been more responsible for struggles than before - especially in the divisional games against the Pats plus the defeat to the Jets. That's the annoying thing. Physically he is the greatest in the world. I'd argue that against anyone trying to say otherwise. But there are too many missed reads and too many bad throws to say that side of the game matches up. Would I change him? No. Has he has issues this seaso? Definitely. In his defence, so has Mahomes and interestingly both have come about after a drop off in production from their number one receiver.

It was announced during the Packers-Vikings coverage.

Haven't re-watched but on first look thought it was dreadful in the first half and ok in the second. Nowhere near where it should be considering Josh's undoubted physical attributes, though.