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Bills draft some unknown linebacker

1300 pass plays. Only 1 sack allowed while at UGA.

I’m so excited. This kid is an excellent player and good kid. Go Dawgs! Go Bills!

Draine?

Some really good players still on the board. Van Pran, Rice, Hart, Chris Jones, Kamara and Booker. No wonder Beane is letting the draft come to him.

I like Guerendo also, size and speed. That said, I never thought Davis would still be on the board here. I got to watch him often in the SEC. We are going to like this kid.

Great video on Davis on ESPN right now.

I know Beane said he wasn’t trading up in the 4th, but it’s a little disappointing. Is he really going to make 4 5th rd picks? We still have needs at Edge, CB, OL and WR so maybe.

This is a really good football player. Cook, Johnson and Davis is an excellent RB room.

Espn compared him to Elam.

I'm sorry, but I'm not at all sad that we traded Diggs. I think Kincaid and Shakir with Samuel and now Coleman will make up a better group of pass catchers then we had last season as Diggs' 160 targets get spread around better as Josh won't have to feed a Prima Donna, but instead focus on throwing to who is actually open. Here are some stats after week 6 when we opened up the offense and started using Kincaid and Shakir more. (Stats include the playoffs) Diggs - 111 tgts, 68 rec, 636 yards, 3 TDS, Catch % 61.26, yards/att 5.73 Kincaid - 83 tgts, 64 rec, 659 yards, 3 TDS, Catch % 77.11%, yards/att 7.94 Shakir - 52 tgts, 45 rec, 646 yards, 3 TDS, Catch % 86.54%, yards/att 12.42 Which of these players would you keep if you were the GM? The player on the downside of his career or the kuds who were just as productive but have upside? Also add that Diggs only had 19 explosive plays on 160 targets, while Shakir had 17 on 45 targets in the regular season. Also combine comparison between Shakir and Diggs (both were 5th rd picks) Shakir - 6' 196, 4.43 40, 1.49 10 yard split, 34.5 vertical - 78 Athleticism score Diggs - 6' 195, 4.46 40, 1.53 10 yard split, 35 vertical - 69 Athleticism score

Correct!

I would love to see Elam given a shot at FS

Allen wanted Dorsey as well.

I'm finding it a little amusing how many posters are talking about McBeane's D obsession, when considering that the Bills brain trust has given Josh a ton of skill help early in the last 3 drafts. Each time is was a position that Beane had never targeted early in the draft in his tenure. 2022 - They drafted Cook in the 2nd rd (pick 63). Cook was known as a good receiver out of the backfield and caught 80% of his targets last year. Prior to Cook, the highest Beane drafted a RB was 3rd rd picks Singletary and Moss. He also added Shakir in the 5th and that seems to be working out ok so far. 2023 - Beane drafted Kincaid (TE) at 25 and then added a starting OG in Torrence in the 2nd (pick 59). Prior to 2023 the highest TE was Knox (3rd rd pick 96th). 2024 - This year Beane takes a WR Coleman with the Bills first pick at 33. Davis was the highest drafted Bill WR under Beane prior and was a 4th rd selection. Of his premium picks (rounds 1-3), Beane has favored D slightly (11 to 9), but overall he has made 23 O picks to 22 D picks with 2 specialists. Sorry, but I'm not seeing much bias here, but I am seeing a change to finally getting some talented skill help for Josh.

Beane has been very forthright about the Bills draft this year. He said there were only 25 or so players with first rd grades and when one wasn’t there at 28 he traded down. He said he was going to add DT help and did. Safety was also an obvious need with only 3 on the roster and both projected starters were backups last season. Beane filled this obvious need with a very talented player who he probably had inside scoop on because of his Utes teammate Kincaid. However Beane also said, if my memory serves, that the Bills passing game needed more explosive plays and someone who could stretch the field. Instead he drafts a player who ran 4.61 at the combine. This is where the disappointment comes in. Beane set the expectations and then to all appearances didn’t deliver. I’m not a fan of the Coleman pick. However, I do trust Beane and there is reason to hope. First, Beane said we need to be better at contested catches and Coleman does that well. We also need bigger targets who make plays in the red zone and Coleman does that as well. @Big Turk also pointed out Coleman 20 mph in game speed. This is Nacua type in game speed and we know how that turned out.

I am not a fan of the Coleman pick. The WR draftee was, I thought, intended to be about explosive plays and stretching the field. Coleman doesn’t do either of those things. That said, thanks Turk for the in game speed info. This stat is what separated Nacua last year in the NFL and maybe that’s where the explosive plays will come from. I also like the fact he does catch TDs. The speed stats makes me feel better about the pick, but I still worry, as Gunner, does about the lack of separation in his route running. I’m hopeful for a 2nd WR in the 5th rd today. Tez Walker has decent size and good speed. I would mind the Bills taking a flyer on him.

I understand this take, but I’m going to respectfully disagree. The Bills are starting Rapp and Edwards at S right now. Both were backups last season. In addition Hamlin is the only other S on the roster. These facts make safety a more pressing need. There is also a reasonable chance that Bishop might beat out one of them for a starting job. Brown is a starter and they seem to like Van Denmark as his backup. In addition Chris Jones is still available in this draft.

Serious question; wasn't the biggest issues with our passing game the lack of explosive plays and receivers who could stretch the field? How exactly does Coleman solve either of those issues? At least he does catch TDs.

ESPN's best available. https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft/bestavailable Top Corners- TJ Tampa - 46th overall - they compare him to Kaiir Elam (nooooooooooo!); Cam Hart (82nd), Draine (92nd), K Jackson (102nd) Top WRs - Franklin (73rd), Rice (81st), Baker (87th) & Walker (91st), Washington (99), J Wilson (100), Means (134) Top Edge - Booker (83rd), Brennan Jackson (115th), Ced Johnson (120), Kamara (126), Hall (135) Top C - Van Pran (105th), Bortolini (117th), Nourzad (130) Top RBs - Wright (97th), Davis (129), Allen (142), Guerendo (146) Top OT - Chris Jones (84th), Foster (107), Top DT - Dorius (79th) - kind of a combo DT/Edge, Wingo (88) Top S - Hicks (59th), Demerson (119th)

So I was supposed to join the board in 1969 when I was 3? I mean seriously, what does when I joined the board have anything to do when I became a Bills fan?

My first game was OJ's first game at the rock pile.

Different era of football, but if Coleman gives us 55 catches for 829 yards and 5 TDs next season like TO did in his one year in Buffalo, I think we'd all be thrilled.

The Bills have had success in day 3 under Beane. Benford, Shakir, Davis, Teller (oops!), T Johnson, Dane Jackson, Neal, Hamlin, Bass & Spector are all 3rd day selection. McD helped grab Milano as well in the 5th. Milano, Shakir, Johnson and Benford are all critical pieces for the Bills next season.

Wow. I guess that means we don’t need a message board anymore.