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Who are they cutting to keep 7?

Why would that be a surprise? He played well when forced into the lineup late in the year, he knows the system and has had a good camp.

Correct. Also the depth chart will continue to change after each practice and each pre-season game up until opening day. The WRs are a particularly fluid group. Shakir and Samuel are the only 2 guaranteed PT. Everyone else is vying for a place on pecking order. Coleman and Hollins are guaranteed a roster spot, but neither is guaranteed PT, although we have to hope that Coleman has good rookie year. After that everyone else is trying to earn a job with only 2 real roster spots available. Right now I'd say MVS and Shavers are leading the race. Claypool, Hamler and Shorter all have injuries of one kind or another, but there is still time for one of them to step up. Shorter had been playing gunner of STs while Hamler was in a battle with Hardy for the KR job.

I’m a little surprised Clapp is listed ahead of SVP at center. Not surprised Spector ahead of Jones at LB.

Lol. The guy caught 81.5% of his targets last year and lost 1 fumble.

The problem for Toohill is that Cline and Jonathan, who already have time in the system, are having good camps and Salomon is a draft pick.

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I apologize and I appreciate your family’s bravery and service. My grandfathers’ emigrated to the US in the 1920’s. Their families that stayed behind were mostly murdered in the holocaust. In fact, the Nazi’s came into my families’ village in Lithuania in Sept 1940. Of the 3500 people in the village, only 5 survived the war. I donated my family’s correspondence with relatives in the village to the Holocaust Memorial in Israel. The Archivist told me that my letters, cards and photos were the first records that had of the Village’s residents. Overall I had two other cousins that survived Auschwitz. One married another survivor and raised their family in Israel. I get it.

I'm sure someone has a photo of a yurt with a Bills Mafia flag on it.

The Bills have typically carried only 4 or 5 LBs. I doubt they'll carry 7. That's to much roster for a position in which the Bills only play two players on gameday. I do agree that there will definitely be some hard choices for management to make. Spector looked good late last year and Ulofoshio was a current year draft pick.

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So the Germans can march in the shade. How can you identify a French Army Knife?

I should clarify how I see CB/S. I think the Bills will roster 10 players between the 2 positions. If everyone were healthy the units would look like this CB (5) - Douglas, Benford, T Johnson, Elam and Ingram with Hardy being a KR/CB6, but counted as a KR for roster purposes S (5) - Rapp, Hamlin, Bishop, Edwards, Lewis With the injuries CB (5) - Douglas, Benford, T Johnson, Elam & Ingram with Hardy being a KR/CB6 but counted as a KR for roster purposes. S (5) - Rapp, Hamlin, Lewis, Jackson & Burgess with Bishop and Edwards on IR. Once each of Bishop and Edwards get healthy, Burgess & Ingram could be on the outside looking in.

With the 1st pre-season game around the corner, I thought it would be helpful to see where the roster stands based on the news from training camp. Offense (24) QB (2) - Allen, Trubisky RB (3) - Cook, Davis, Johnson FB (1) - Gilliam TE (3) - Kincaid, Knox - camp battle (1) - Morris, Davidson - Could they keep Morris & Davidson making Gilliam expendable? WR (6) - Coleman, Shakir, Samuel, Hollins - camp battle (2) - Shavers, MVS, Claypool, Shorter, Hamler WR Notes: Shorter has been playing the gunner on special teams, MVS is finally working with the 1st team offense, Shavers has been the camp surprise and Claypool got hurt. OL - Starters (5) - Brown, Dawkins, McGovern, Torrence & Edwards OL - Depth (4) - Van Denmark, Anderson, SVP & ???? - camp battle (1) - Grable, Collins, Clapp Defense (23) DT (5) - Oliver, D Jones, A Johnson, D Williams, Carter DE (5) - Miller, Rousseau, Epenesa, Smoot - camp battle (1) - Jonathan, Cline, Toohill, Salomon LB (4) - Milano, Benard, Williams, Morrow - camp battle (1) - Spector, Jones, Ulofoshio. Can Spector unseat Williams or Morrow? Could they keep 5? Draft pick Ulofoshio is injured - PS? Has Jones done enough to earn a job? CB (5) - T Johnson, Douglas, Benford, Elam, Lewis - Note: Ingram has had a good camp and Hardy is the favorite as the kick returner S (4) - Rapp, Hamlin, Bishop (IR), Edwards (IR) - camp battle (2+) - with the key injuries, the Bills signed Burgess and Jackson. Lewis also playing safety. Is Hamlin now a starter? Jackson is 36 with 187 NFL games (176 starts) and Burgess has 43 games (3 starts). Specialists (4) - Ferguson (LS), Bass (PK), Martin (P) & Hardy (KR) - camp battle (1) - Isabella & Hamler (For the KR job) Of the camp battles - I see Grable winning the 4th OL backup job and Jonathan winning the 5th DE job. I thought MVS was on the way out, but I now see him on the roster as the 5th WR with Shavers and Shorter battling for WR 6. Claypool’s injury could slot him to the PS. The other really interesting battle is at TE3 between Morris and Davidson. Morris is a proven special teams ace, while Davidson is a special athlete who is now healthy. This leaves 2 jobs available. Could we see a TE4, a LB5, a CB6 or a S5 to accommodate the injuries at S and to avoid losing one of Spector, Davidson or Ingram? Given the injuries a S, I suspect they’ll start the year with a 5th safety. I’m going to assume Bishop and Edwards make the team but depending on their injuries, both could end up on the IR to start the year. I don’t think they want to lose Spector at LB. Can they get him back to the PS? Could they keep 6 DE to not lose Cline or Salomon or do you think both will clear to the PS? What about Davidson or Ingram. I think they’ll be able to the loser of Shavers vs Shorter to the PS. I also think they’ll be able to get Salomon and Ulofoshio to the PS. Not sure about Ingram, Davidson, Cline or Spector.

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He is 17 of 19 in camp according to Joe Marino with only misses of 51 and 58.

Y'all do realize that Morris only played 185 (15.89%) of the offensive plays last year. Morris' primary contribution was 312 special teams plays (72.56%). Whomever wins this camp battle is going to be primarily a special teams player. Davidson is going to have to perform amazingly in pre-season games for Morris to lose his job.

Milano is going to take some time to get up to speed. My biggest concern is that he is now coming back from his second big injury. The good news is that he is on the right side of 30 and our LB depth is the best it’s ever been under McDermott.

This thread is way premature. Lets see how Davidson performs in a at least one pre-season game before giving him a roster spot.

Milton always looks good in practice. He looked good at Michigan, looked good at Tenn, and now looks good at NE. Sadly, the problems really begin when he steps on the field in real games.

No, this board is where the player was drafted and by what team. Notice the little Buffalo next to Coleman and Bishop's names? Yellow has to be use extreme caution. Joe Milton is the only player with Yellow and he is a great athlete but a terrible QB.

The problem for me was we dump Diggs who fell from a 70% receiver to 61% after week 6 (66.9% for the season) and let a 53% receiver in Davis walk. He kept his 3 other top receivers Cook (81.5%), Kincaid (80.2%) and Shakir (86.7%) as well as signing Samuel who caught nearly 70% of his targets with a crappy Wash team. If the goal was to have guys who actually catch the football why bring in a guy who in 2 seasons in KC only caught 51.2% of his throws from Mahomes. He was actually was worse in GB with only 49.8% catches with Aaron Rodgers as his QB.

I wrote in the Surprise Cut thread on July 11 that MVS would be cut. The response was swift and angry. The Bills would never cut a guy with a $2.25 mill dead cap hit they said. The truth is MVS is a lousy wr with a career 50% catch percentage. He is Beane’s biggest mistake this summer. He should have never been signed.

On July 11th in the surprise cut thread I said MVS will not make the team and boy I some peoples panties in a wad. Let's say I'm not surprised that opinion on him are shifting in my direction. The guy is a 50% pass receiver for his career. He should never have been signed and paying him 2.25 guaranteed was Beane's biggest mistake this off-season.

He's probably the guy who drafted Mayfield or Darnold over Allen and quite possibly the guy who drafted Zach Wilson 2nd overall