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I've added 3 polls to the thread. QB - Same. Trubisky vs K Allen is a wash. Although White could an upgrade as the 3rd string RB - Significantly Better! Cook is back, Johnson moved from the PS and proved to be more effective than Murray. Evans earning a roster spot (IR) was an interesting development. Adding Davis is a great complimentary back and he should be able to do what Harris and Murray couldn't. TE - Improved as Kincaid now has experience and Knox is healthy. I'm looking for 100 catches and 1000 yards from Kincaid this year. WR - Worse on paper because of no proven No. 1 receiver, but could be more effective on the field. Davis, Sherfield and Hardy stunk last year and Diggs' effectiveness plummeted around mid-season. Shakir looks ready for the No. 1 job and the group of Samuel, Hollins, Coleman and MVS are better than Davis, Harty and Sherfield OL - Same! Less experienced but probably more talented. 7 of the top 9 return with draftees SVGP and Grable "replacing" Morse and Bates. This should remain a team strength DE - Better because of better depth. Lost Floyd and useless depth in Lawson and Ford. Miller back and healthy. Smoot is an depth upgrade. Rousseau goers back to his natural position and Solomon looks little a 3rd down havoc maker. DT - Better because of better depth. Oliver and D Jones return. A Johnson and Carter are upgrades on Phillips and Settle. LB - Same, but could go either way. If Milano comes back healthy and Williams proves effective, then the LB group will be improved. If Williams stinks in coverage and Milano doesn't come back the group will be worse unless someone else steps up like Dobson did. CB - Better. Douglas outperformed White (when he played). Benford and Elam have more experience. S - Worse. Hyde and Poyer, while aging and slowing were still effective. Rapp was fine when he came in for the injured Hyde, but we still have no idea who else is starting between Hamlin, Bishop and Edwards. Maybe Lewis gets the start. Specialists - Same It's hard to call the team better, but the team is younger, more athletic and has more upside if the busload of kids prove effective. Another note is that the Bills started 6 new 1st and 2nd year starters last season (Benford, Benard, Cook, Shakir, Torrence and Kincaid). Despite a significant youth movement, the current squad will only have only possibly 2 or 3 new 1st or 2nd year starters in Coleman (R) at WR, Williams (2nd year) at LB, and maybe Bishop (R) at S.

I have long wanted Beane to add WRs throughout the draft. After all how do you develop skill players if you don’t draft any? That philosophy has clearly changed for Beane. In the last 3 drafts he has utilized top 64 picks on Cook, Coleman and Kincaid. Prior to these drafts Beane had never drafted an offense skill player in the first two rounds except Josh. This change is overdue. I hope he continues to add WR depth in next year’s draft. I also agree Shorter was a lousy draft pick. All that said, missing on a 5th rd pick is the norm. I’m much more an annoyed about missing on Boogie Basham and Cody Ford. Those are two 2nd round misses that have hurt the club.

Left out. Are we really bashing Beane for missing on a 5th rd pick? This is same guy who found all-pro T Johnson in the 4th, Gabe Davis in the 4th, starting WR Shakir in the 5th, future starting C SVPG in the 5th and starting CB Benford in the 6th.

(R) = Rookie (ST) - primarily a Special Teams Player QB 2023 - Allen & Allen 2024 - Allen & Trubisky RB 2023 - Cook, Harris, Murray, Gilliam (FB/ST) 2024 - Cook, Davis (R), Johnson, Gilliam (FB/ST) (Evans IR) WR 2023 - Diggs, Davis, Shakir, Sherfield, Harty 2024 - Shakir, Samuel, Coleman (R), Hollins, MVS TE 2023 - Knox, Kincaid (R), Morris (ST) 2024 - Kincaid, Knox, Morris (ST) OL Starters 2023 - Brown, Dawkins, Morse, Torrence (R), McGovern 2024 - Brown, Dawkins, McGovern, Torrence, D. Edwards OL Backups 2023 - Van Denmark, Anderson, D. Edwards, Bates, Ifedi 2024 - Van Denmark, Anderson, Grable (R), SVPG (R) Specialists 2023 - Bass, Martin, Ferguson, Harty (WR/KR) 2024 - Bass, Martin, Ferguson, Codrington (R) KR) DE 2023 - Rousseau, Floyd, Epenesa, Lawson, Jonathan (Miller IR) 2024 - Rousseau, Miller, Epenesa, Smoot, Solomon (R) DT 2023 - Oliver, D Jones, Phillips, Settle, Ford 2024 - Oliver, D Jones, A. Johnson, Carter (R) LB 2023 - Milano, Benard, Dobson, D.Williams (R), Matekevich (ST) - (Spector IR) 2024 - Williams, Benard, Morrow, Spector, Ulofoshio (R), Andreessen (R/ST) - (Milano IR) CB 2023 - White, Benford, T Johnson, Elam, D Jackson, Neal (ST) 2024 - Douglas, Benford, T Johnson, Elam, Ingram S 2023 - Hyde, Poyer, Rapp, Hamlin, Lewis (S/CB/ST) 2024 - Rapp, Hamlin, Bishop (R), M. Edwards, Lewis (S/CB/ST) This is a clear movement away from older vets (Morse, White, Diggs, Hyde, Poyer, Floyd, Harris, Murray among others) to youth including 10 2024 draftees/UDFAs. Obviously S and WR are the hot button issues for people on this board. Even with the youth movement, I think there is a good argument that the team is just as good if not better than last year’s squad. I’ll dissect each position group in a latter post. Do to injuries in season in 2023 there are 16 starters returning on offense and defense including Allen, Cook, Kincaid, Shakir, Brown, Dawkins, McGovern and Torrence on Offense, and Rousseau, Oliver, D Jones, Benard, Douglas, Benford, T Johnson, and Rapp on Defense.

Mike White gets the first PS slot, 15 to go Shavers, Hamler and or Shorter at WR? Isabella? Davidson and or McKitty at TE? Edwards, Clapp, Gouriage at OL? Cline and Jonathan at DE? Ankou and D Williams at DT? Gore at RB? Jackson at S? What about Hardy coming back or is he gone?

Who are the bottom players on this roster? Toohill has to be close to the bottom if not player 53. Spector and Andreessen have to be near the bottom. Evans (in 4 weeks), MVS and Ingram have to be there as well. 49 - MVS 50 - Spector 51 - Ingram 52 - Andreessen 53 - Casey Toohill

He must have done something wrong behind the scenes. Besides Collins and his $1.5 mill dead cap hit, the biggest dead cap on the waived or released players were 287K Clapp, 138K Hardy, 100k Britton and 90K Gore.

But if cut him and replace him with another player your cost for the season goes from 1 mill to just keep him to 1.75 to cut and replace him.

That's a weird one. What did he do in camp to make the team?

Big dead cap if cut.

I've updated to reflect the Bills official cut list. Neither Mckitty or Davidson have made the Bills. I'm shocked about Hardy. I guess they figure no one will pick him if he's injured.

UB has their bad apples as well but it doesn't make national headlines because no one cares.

I'm rooting for UGA alum McKitty. What does it say about the Bills that they have more UB alums than UGA alums?

I forgot Ulofoshio. Updated

I already updated with McKitty. What about Keaton Bills and Te'Cory Couch. I assume they have been cut, but I don't think I've seen it "officially"

So who do we know that has been cut? (26) OL - Britton, Mike Edwards, Gouraige, Jarvis, Collins RB - Gore WR - Hamler, Shorter, Isabella, Shavers, X Johnson, Byrd QB - DiNucci, Brown DL - Stevenson, Jonathan, Cline, Deen, Ankou, Bothroyd LB - D Jones, Simon CB - Lovely, K Brown S - Jackson, Williamson, Season ending IR (2) S - Delaney, Burgess Add KR - Codrington So it looks like all the draft picks made the team (except the Int Development player). All 3 UB alums, Ingram, Lewis and Andreessen. Not sure about Collins and Clapp. Roster Offense: QB (2) - Allen, Trubisky RB/FB (5) - Cook, Davis, Johnson, Gilliam and Evans (IR?) WR (5) - Shakir, Samuel, Coleman, Hollins, MVS (Cain?) TE (4) - Kincaid, Knox, Morris (IR), Davidson (McKitty?) OL (10) - Brown, Torrence, McGovern, D Edwards, Dawkins, SVPG, Van Denmark, Anderson, Grable, & Clapp Specialists (4) Bass, Martin, Ferguson and Codrington Defense DE (5) - Miller, Rousseau, Epenesa, Smoot & Solomon DT (5) - Oliver, A Johnson, D Jones, Carter, D Williams LB (7) - Milano (IR), Williams, Benard, Spector, Morrow, Ulofoshio & Andreessen CB (6) - Benford, Douglas, T Johnson, Elam, Ingram & Hardy (IR) S (5) - Rapp, Hamlin, Bishop, Mike Edwards & Lewis That's 58 (or 60 with Cain & McKitty) with at least 3 IR candidates

I repeat for the 4th time. UDFA Mike Edwards has been waived, but they want him on the PS. S Mike Edwards and starting LG David Edwards are still with the team.

Hodgins played a few games for the Bills, but generally speaking you are correct. Also Coleman is the first top 100 draft pick used by Beane on a WR. Hard to develop any WRs if you don't draft them.

No! I’m more worried about 3 UB alums on the roster

All the draft picks are making the team except the International Development player.

I sincerely doubt Evans and/or Gore make the roster unless one of Cook, Davis or Johnson are hurt. What do they need 4 or 5 RBs for?

The reaction here to cutting 3 lousy receivers in Shavers, Shorter, and Hamler is pretty funny. The receiving group is fine. Samuel is an experienced solid slot receiver. Coleman is a talented rookie. Hollins is a proven depth receiver. The keys to the group are Kincaid and Shakir. If they take the next step forward, which I think they will, the Bills could easily have a pair of 1000 yard receivers this season. Don’t forget Knox and Cook add to the talented receiver group.

I repeat UDFA OL Mike Edwards was released, not S Mike Edwards. https://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/2024/08/buffalo-bills-cuts-tracker-latest-reports-rumors-news-on-53-man-roster-live-tracker.html

OL Mike Edwards was released not S Mike Edwards or RG David Edwards. S - Kendall Williamson and WR Andy Isabella have been released.