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Next week we may not see Josh against the Jets. He hurt his right hand and had a right shoulder injury heading into the game. If KC beats Pittsburgh on Christmas, the battle for the No. 1 seed is over. If the Texans can beat the Ravens on Christmas as well, then the battle for the 2nd seed is over as well as all 3 teams chasing the Bills (Pitt, Hou and Balt) will be 10-6 and the Bills worst possible record would be 12-5. This would lock up the 2nd seed and there would be no reason to play Josh.

They should never ever wear the red jerseys again. Burn them.

Well that was closer than it had to be. Great job by the D (except Elam) after the 1st qtr.

G-d Cook sucks, we should trade him.

Can they change into the blue jerseys?

Another piece for Superman Josh and his legend. Not only is he the best player in football, but he is still the best player despite playing through an injury that would sideline most mortals. Don’t tug on Superman’s cape, ….

How? He was drafted well before our pick. Ladd McConkey is arguably the one who got away. Any argument that we could have moved up to get him assumes that another team was willing to trade down. Jax, who took Thomas at 23 had already traded down from 17 and the picks 18-22 were made by their original teams.

and Oklahoma etc......

Most of the talking heads said the Bills were a 9-8, 8-9 team with their veterans losses and would miss the playoffs. McD has done a great job and deserves the COY.

I guess IU shouldn’t have been in the CFP along with SMU, Tennessee and Clemson. 4 blowouts. I thought 8 is enough and it’s proving to be the case.

I am an IU alum and a UGA season ticket holder (wife went to UGA) and I've said since the expansion that 12 teams were to many. 8 would have been enough, but that's not how the politics worked. However anyone who says Bama, Ole Miss or SC deserved a slot over SMU and IU is simply wrong. They all lost 3 conference games and often to 6-6 or worse type teams. Bama got blown out by a 6-6 (2-6 in conference) Oklahoma team. They lost to Vandy (6-6, 3-5 in SEC) and gave up 40 points in the process and in what was essentially a play in game, they lost to Ten 24-17. Ole Miss lost to 4-8 Kentucky (1-7 in SEC) and lost to decent Florida and LSU. S Carolina lost to Ole Miss, Bama and LSU. IU lost to Ohio St, but beat decisively nearly everyone of their schedule and didn't lose to any 7-5, 6-6 type teams. In fact they blew them out. SMU lost to a good BYU team and Clemson and beat everyone else decent Louisville and Pitt. Like IU they ran over all the 7-5. 6-6 teams they faced which is something Bama, and Ole Miss couldn't do. Sorry but this whining from good but not great SEC teams is meaningless. Bottomline, don't lose 3 conference games and don't lose to mediocre teams.

Cam Newton - 2015 MVP (age 26) Cam 6-5 245 Josh 6-5 237 (currently age 28) Cam 2015 - Car record 15-1; 296 Completions for 3837 yards (12.96 yards/catch) 35 TDs & 10 ints + 132 carries for 636 yards (4.82 yards/carry) & 10 TDs Josh 2024 (YTD) - Bills Record 11-3; 275 Completions for 3395 yards (12.35 yards/catch) 25 tds & 5 ints + 91 carries for 484 yards (5.32 yards/carry) & 11 TDs Josh projected - 334 completions for 4125 yards, 30 TDs & 6 ints + 111 carries for 591 yards & 13 Tds I'd say those are very similar MVP caliber seasons by very similar players. Josh has a higher completion % and Josh seems to actually getting better, while Cam's game began to deteriorate following his MVP campaign. Cam remained a good QB for the next 3 years, but never got close to the MVP season again. Josh is also the better QB and player, but the similarities and hard to ignore.

I noticed you left off Samuel. Ty Johnson got his game against Detroit. You know Brady is saving the "Samuel game" for the playoffs.

So what your saying is that the Jets are the Sabres of the NFL. Maybe that's why they have matching 14 years of missing the playoffs.

Love the thread title. Apparently everyone eats works with the right QB, targets and OC. Still waiting for the big Curtis Samuel game.

Talk about cynical. While good teams may not need an elite WR, they good need an above average group and the Bills have that. The Chase example is a bit disingenuous. Other elite WRs are making the playoffs on some the best teams like Jefferson for example or Nico Collins or St Brown etc.. The key is not force feeding these players and having a variety of other complimentary weapons. Det has two excellent RBs to go with St Brown. Minnesota has Hockenson, Jones and Addison to complement Jefferson. The Bills and GB do it with a large menu of targets.

We all want the Bills to win every game. We are fans after all, but a model the spits out a result that makes no logical sense, then the model is crap.

I don't think he's getting 20 mill from anyone at 31 coming off a mediocre year. If he is getting on with Josh and the Bills, he might be better off taking less money and chasing a championship.

The WR room is just fine. Would I like to see Beane add another receiver in the draft. Absolutely. The question is how early in the draft. The WR room for next season is Shakir in the slot, Coleman on one boundary and Samuel mixing in. I expect Hollins to be re-signed. He is our Special Teams Ace and a decent WR who makes big plays here and there. Josh also seems to like him. The real question is does Cooper stay. Does he want to stay and for how much? I don't think we've seen the full positive impact he has as he probably still learning the system, the playbook and building rapport with Josh. If we go into next year with Shakir, Coleman, Cooper, Samuel, Hollins and a mid round rookie, I think we'll be in great shape.

160 pages. Is this the longest thread ever?

35-17 Bills

This is garbage. They predicted that the Bills, who have scored 30+ nearly every week this season will only score 19 against the Pats. Over the last 4 weeks the Pats have given up an average of 30 points a game. Now against the best offense in football, that scored 40+ against two playoff teams, will somehow only score 19 against a team that gives up 30 a game. If this is the quality of the model, anything it produces is garbage.

As if any of this matters. Happy for Josh, but it’s Super Bowl or bust.

For the last 2 years in Wash, Samuel averaged 91.5 targets, 63 receptions for 635 yards and 4 TDs with 10.15 yards per reception. For that kind of production the Bills signed him as a FA for 3 years 24 million (14 mill guaranteed). He's on pace for 47 targets, 30 catches and 247 yards with 8.4 yards/reception and 1 TD. This is less than half his normal production for $8 million By contrast Mack Hollins is on pace for 47 targets 28 receptions for 337 yards and 6 TDs for 2.6 million and he is also the best player on our special teams. By any objective measure Samuel isn't working out as expected.

I chose Benford as well. PFF has him as the 12th best CB in the NFL out of 216 and I think he’s better than that. The other elite Bills are imho Cook, Shakir, Brown, Dawkins and Taron Johnson. Groot and Oliver have elite games but aren’t consistent enough to be called elite overall.