Cray51

The chiefs traded Hill to get away from a cap bind. The chiefs have moved players out, but have been flexible with that cap situation via great drafting and cheap FAs. The bills are emulating that to a degree. the bengals were worse than the Bills had been for the past decade in 2019-20 when they picked first overall and 5th for chase and burrow. They are losing Higgins and Hendrickson within the year, and they have benefitted from having those talents on rookie deals. in fact, you made your own counterpoint in your post. The Bengals have an elite QB on a rookie deal, which gives them flexibility. They have had two elite WRs on rookie deals, which have given them flexibility. The Bills have had Allen’s deal active for a few seasons now, and paid Diggs as a true #1. So I’m not sure what point you are trying to make here.

The overhead of that video potentially showed a reason why Franklin dropped to the 4th round. He was zig zagging all over the place

The Bills offense was top 5 at the end of the year, and was so via flexibility of the scheme week to week. The team didnt need to funnel Diggs 15 targets a game to be successful. Brady used the run game, Kincaid, Shakir and it was a better offense than the first half of the year.

I have a feeling they will go WR in the third. Guys will continue to drop

He is Gabe Davis with hands. If he has those traits, the Bills will make him successful

Worthy sprinted to the stage, and the light breeze in Detroit picked him up and he was never heard of again

If worthy makes such an impact, he isn’t the pick at 28, he is going top 10. Frankly the guy can run fast at the combine. I don’t see the separation on film, I don’t see plus hands. They will scheme him all over the field I’m sure, but worthy was not a top 40 prospect in this draft for me.

Or, people have been consistent that they are not a huge Fan of Worthy…. But posters sensationalize for the sake of making a point

I wouldn’t be shocked if worthy is listed as “first round disappointments” a year later. He screams gadget to start and then finding out if he can develop further

Sky Moore was the speed guy taken two years ago who is awful kadarius toney was picked up to be the speedy first round grade receiver to be a stud ross was brought in to see if his speed could amount to somethjng in the tail end of his career the chiefs have struck out on receivers just as often as they have hit. Hill was and is an amazing player. If they have fooled everyone and found a guy of tbat talent again? Credit to them

I’ll just say this, I was more impressed with McConkey running with the ball in his hands than Worthy when I watched them mcConkey also looks like the more natural catcher worthy has more experience with the route tree and Is is fast in a straight line

I’ve watched the tape on Worthy, I’m not impressed. i think he has value as a gadget guy and if Mahomes and him gain chemistry, he can be effective i didnt have a top 40 grade on him

The quality of this draft isn’t its depth. Moving up in rounds is good value for this year

I mentioned it in a text to a friend - 33 and one of our seconds next year for Aiyuk and their second at the end of the round extend aiyuk, take your savings and draft Franklin who you love at 61

COULD YOU IMAGINE THEM WITH JOHN ROSS??!! He was worthy before worthy! wait, they did have him… and he didn’t even crack the roster speed isn’t everything

No historical comp showed Josh Allen would be a top QB in the league. I understand what you are saying. Bleed the chiefs dry if they try to move up. However, there are so many variables to the situation. Maybe the chiefs were the only team offering to move up? Maybe the bills are working on other deals and need certain picks to make it happen, maybe the Bills are targeting players that they know will be available later on?

Maybe the trade we received was in fact a premium…?

Of course I’d be upset, but not at Beane trading back. I’d be pissed if we drafted worthy to only have him get injured right away, or turns out he can’t catch the ball if the chiefs maximize the ability of him, so be it. This isn’t us trading the first overall pick. you can’t be “scared” as an NFL gm. Beane has someone in mind for our pick, and he obviously knows he will get him

So would you prefer the Bills take worthy to spite the chiefs, but can’t use him effectively and he busts, or take someone at 28 that would have been available at 32 anyway and not move up 30 spots into the 3rd round?

Losers focus on winners, winners focus on winning. Bills weren’t going worthy, and they obviously have a guy in mind. Get your guy and get a 3rd to either move up in the 2nd, or fill out the roster

@GunnerBill great job as always - any idea why WR has gone from "We may see 7 receivers in the first round" to only 5? Mitchell/Legette/Franklin/McConkey all not being selected in the first. Does that say more about the concerns of the talent, or the addressing of other needs by teams?

B. Cooks - Good #2 K. Benjamin - Bad W. Fuller - Bad N. Agholor - #3/4 B. Perriman - Bad P. Dorsett - Bad J. Doctson - Bad L. Treadwell - Bad D. Moore - Low Tier #1 C. Ridley - Low Tier #1 M. Brown - Good #2 N. Harry - Bad C. Lamb* - Mid Tier #1 J. Reagor - Bad J. Jefferson** - Top #1 B. Aiyuk - Mid Tier #1 K. Toney - Bad R. Bateman - #3 with Potential So we have: 1 Top Tier #1 4 Mid/Low #1s 2 #2s 2-3 #3s 8 Bad To be fair, in the last few years the results have been better: Since 2018 Draft: 4 Mid/Low Tier #1s 1 Top End #1 1 Good #2 1 Good #3 with upside 3 Bads So really the tweet is a little misleading. In the past 5 drafts, teams in our position have found a #1 WR 50% of the time. With this class being deep, the chance of that hit only goes up. Is the risk there? Of course. But I'm not scared about picking a WR at 28. If Beane had a guy they want, they need to go after them.

The question is dependent on two things. 1) am I able to complete passes like a shovel pass to a motioning receiver? That’s really the only pass I think I could complete. 2) is the teams goal to win the game or for me to complete a pass? I can throw the ball 20-30 yards downfield with decent accuracy, but I have no reference to the timing of an NFL play. I don’t think I could judge a corner/safety/lb in zone coverage. I also think if someone as bad as one of us was behind center, the other team would bring a heavy set in and drop everyone within 5 yards of the line. Zero blitz all day and none of us could process and develop a rhythm to complete a pass. I’m not small (6’2), in decent shape, and can throw a bit. However, so much of the QB role is pre snap, and then just insanely fast reads real time. Then the athlete part comes into play. if I can shovel to a wr? 1-5 passes. If the goal is to complete a pass PAST the line of scrimmage? Zero. And I’m comfortable knowing I’m correct

In the playoffs, Kelce went 32 catches on 37 targets for 355 yards and 3 TDs. He elevated his game because he is still absolutely a top 20 receiving threat in the league. His regular season wasn't great, but he turned it on when he needed to. Just like most Chief's players did. I dont disagree that Allen will likely have 4,100+ yards to end the year. I'm just thinking, when the playoffs come around, can our talent at the WR/TE positions elevate like a Kelce can?

Don't like him at all. I just dont see the ability to throw at the NFL level. Would stay away