Cray51

If it's young o-line that the Browns want, the Bills could offer Anderson/Van Dermark/Grable as a chip along with a 1st and a 2nd. Bills have major o-line depth

Agreed, but if you are sitting there in camp and the best offer you get is a lower 4th, you take the deal and save the money. I think Edwards is a good player, but he is insulated by Dawkins who plays on an island and McGovern. Those guys are both strong for their position and mask Edwards a touch.

Edwards wont be cut, however if Grable/SVG come into camp and look great I could see a trade. O-line is such a need around the league, I'd be shocked if a team wouldn't trade a 4th or 5th for him closer to preseason

Dont bring reason into this, people are just mad the Bills didn't select the best players drafted after them.

The point is you are putting a $10 Burger against a $5 Burger but not factoring in price. If the Bills had pick 22, they take BTJ and our offense is completely different. We didnt have the opportunity to because we were 28th. There isn't a boundary receiver as good as BJT after he was selected. Zero. If we have BJT taken at 22 and are sitting there with picks 50 and 53, maybe they move up to draft Dejean. But to simply go "The Eagles drafted well and the Bills didn't" without acknowledging the context of their draft is silly. You take Worthy you can't get Carter (regardless of how you feel you dont get that 3rd round pick). And I'm not convinced Worthy is better than Coleman. You take Ladd and you give ABSOLUTELY zero boundary threat (I really like Ladd, but he is a pure slot guy) Bullock is a good pick, we missed on him. I'm hopeful about Bishop however. The Chargers had the worst boundary receivers in the league and still played Ladd at slot. We are going to disagree here. If Ladd was a capable boundary guy they would have used him there more. He is a GREAT slot guy, but he hasn't shown in the NFL an ability at the boundary.

Worthy is not foundational McConkey is a pure slot option and the Bills clearly wanted a vertical threat (I'm not sure that Coleman is much better on the boundary, but that's another conversation). Fiske is a good player for sure Dejean also a good player Lassiter is good, but not foundational IMO. So from my view, the drop off from truly foundational guys (BTJ, Mitchell, Alt, Nabers, Bowers, Alt) to the guys you mentioned is totally a decent gap. You mentioned some good players and guys who may become pro bowlers to legit pro bowlers as rookies who have All Pro potential.

No, I'm saying while the Eagles absolutely hit on their top two picks, you can't DIRECTLY compare to the Bills situation. If the Bills have pick 22, they are probably taking BTJ, who had 1204 yards as a rookie. Instead they had pick 28, and moved back because they didnt love any of the WR available. When the Eagles are picking earlier in the round, they have a higher chance at taking a better player. I dont know why that's such a crazy concept so many seem to misunderstand. They picked Dejean at 40, we take Bishop at 60. Do you think an early 2nd and a late 2nd are the same player? Hunt is a decent pick, but he only played 41% of snaps because the starters came out in the 4th. You asked to compare the Eagles draft class to the Bills - I did. The Eagles first 3 picks were taken on average 11 selections before the Bills were. I'm not saying the Bills drafted better than the Eagles, I'm saying the Eagles drafted well, while also getting to select players earlier. You are the one who asked for a review of the Eagles draft class. Dont laugh at what you asked for...

Eagles: Pick 22 - Quinyon Mitchell. Maybe the Bills take him if they were picking at 22. Eagles weren't trading back, so it's a moot point to try to say the Bills could have had a player like Mitchell at 28. It wasn't happening. Pick 40 - Cooper Dejean. Good player, Eagles traded up for him. I think he is a good safety/corner hybrid who will play for a long time. Bills could have taken him at 33, but that would have left NOTHING at receiver at pick 60. Good player though After this, they have Hunt (who is unproven), Shipley is a nothing player, Smith is a nothing player, Trotter Jr. has some upside, and depth o-line potentially. Eagles top 2 picks played well. Their combined draft position is 62 to the Bill's 92. They have essentially a half of a round of improvement on their picks compared to Buffalo. That is very important when we consider evaluating these guys.

Hurting your hand/wrist will factor into your ability to produce. Prior to his injury, Coleman was pacing for 800 yards and 6 TDs as a rookie. That's QUITE good, and would have put him above Odunze and right around MHJ for rookie production. Bills need to hope he returns to that first half of the year form. If he does, he is plenty productive, especially given the draft position.

Washington had the second overall pick, and 4 picks before we picked Bishop. Of course Daniels was great, he was the #1 QB in the draft. Their second round pick at 36th overall Newton had 19 tackles and 2 sacks, where DeWayne Carter had 14 tackles and 5 TFLs Sainristril was a decent corner this year, but was picked 10 picks before Bishop, and Sinnot their TE had 5 catches all year (pick 56)... Washington's draft hit because of Daniels. The rest of their selections are VERY VERY average. When you look at the draft, honestly it just doesn't look like a great depth class. Two players over 5 sacks, highest tackler had 62 tackles, Ray Davis was the third most productive RB, and only one player drafted after Keon had more yards, which was Ladd. And Ladd plays slot only. It was a top heavy draft that provided some great players (Daniels, Bowers, Nabers, BJT, Alt), but really cools off after pick 25. If Bishop can turn into a starting Safety, and Grable/Davis/Coleman become decent starters, that will probably be a good result given the class.

If you get DK for a 2 and a 5, and you turn around and get Miles for 1,2,1 next year… you will end up letting Shakir and likely Rousseau walk the next season and you take comp picks that are probably pretty good as you look towards 2026 to restock.

If you could bring DK in, with an extension (I would assume he would want $25M+ a year...) for 4-5 years that brings his cap down, I would consider our 2nd and a 5th. Can't make that scenario happen? You pass and try to find another way to improve the WR room.

He just had his most efficient season at 28 years old. He isn’t Newton where his body is already showing signs of breaking down. He is extending his mental game and it’s creating new ways that he can win. he may have 5 seasons left of “wow” plays, but he has 10 seasons left of winning ability IMO

I agree to an extent, but who do you select over these guys that are the "elite" players? 2024: Coleman over Worthy (overhyped and is not elite) and McConkey (Slot guy ONLY, dont mistake it). Could have taken Braden Fiske, but I'm sure Bills fans would have loved drafted a 24 year old to the line with our first pick... 2023: Kincaid over who - Bresee out of New Orleans? Laporta sure, but even he had a very pedestrian season this year. Nobody selected after him is really an "Elite" player at a position of need 2022: Elam is a bust - Karlaftis would have been a good selection, however that would have been 3 straight d-line selections. Fair criticisms 2021: Greg was the best selection with what was left. Maybe you could pick Landon Dickerson over him, but then we went and selected Brown in the 3rd round who is an elite tackle (or just under elite) 2020: Pick traded for an elite player 2019: Oliver was the consensus pick at #9. He is a fine pick for 9th overall, but there are guys who have had better careers. Hardly a terrible pick, just not the right one with hindsight 2018: Drafts Allen, enough said. I've done deep analysis on Beane's drafting in comparison to other GMs, he is just under the best of the best (Roseman and Newsom/Decosta). There are criticisms, however it's a lot easier to say "we should have just drafted elite players" than actually in the moment doing it. There is a reason we seem to only lose to the Chiefs every year, we are REALLY good, but its fair to point at a few situations where we didn't maximize value.

Not excuses, context. If you take a single statement and assume that's the entire point or context of a view on our head coach, that's a little shortsighted. Sean's role is different and his impacts (which may have a tangent line to the scenarios that I originally commented on) as a Head Coach are more around the managerial focuses of the team. Making sure timeouts are used effectively, managing high level strategies, etc. Specific play calls are not part of Sean's role, as Babich and Brady have taken them over.