silvermike

Welker's last season in Miami nearly doubled up Roscoe's best in terms of catches, 67 to 35. And he had two seasons in Miami where his yardage totals topped Roscoe's best. Roscoe's also fumbled twice as much as Welker, despite how many fewer touches he's had in his career. So Welker's got better goods even if we're talking about the Joey Harrington, Gus Frerotte, and Nick Saban Welker, rather than the Tom Brady, Matt Cassel, and Bill Belichick Welker.

OTher than height, what does Parrish have in common with Wes Welker? Welker's a possession guy who has reliable hands to convert third downs. Parrish is a speed threat who can try to make big plays. Parrish also has fewer catches in his career than Welker in either of his past two seasons.

The probem isn't that. The problem is that once you get past Monroe County, nobody has heard of Aaron Schobel, Chris Kelsay, Ryan Denney, Kyle Williams, Kirk Chambers, and our starting left guard, Brandon Rodd.

At this point, I'm guessing prospects had facebook pages long before they were even a little famous - they've been keeping them up since high school, like other kids. Still, though, at the point you're playing D-I football, it's probably time to take down any pictures of yourself in any compromising position, and just keep a page about your career stats.

However pissed you guys are about our offseaon, think of the Packers. Their offseason has consisted of DUKE PRESTON, and some backup safety from the Steelers.

Let's see: some quick research... Hines Ward held out for two weeks, then reported to camp and signed an extension Sept. 15, richest in Steeler history. Parker wins. Richard Seymour only skipped some offseason workouts before signing a huge contract. Parker wins. Walter Jones kept holding out and then playing for his franchise tender. He later signed a big extension, but I'd give this one to the Seahawks. Emmitt Smith and Brooks are too long ago to find good information. Hester got STUPID money - up to $10M per season - for being basically a glorified Roscoe Parrish. Parker. Benson got his rookie deal with $17M guaranteed, but these holdouts are almost never worth it for the player or the team. Everybody lost. Coles just got his money guaranteed after holding out - that's one for the Jets, especialyl since he gave it up anyway. Jets win. Peters lost round one, we'll see about round 2. And Jackson got paid. So let's see: four clean wins, one draw, and three losses. That's nothing too special, really.

How often does he win those holdouts? He hasn't actually forced a trade on any of those yet - do the teams usually cave?

I think it means we're flexible - if there's more talent at guard in the 2nd, we'll grab Robinson and start H at center, if we get mack, H. goes to guard. No big.

What's that about a deep dicking?

Well, we would get the benefit of having the Chiefs paying Dorsey's signing bonus.

I'd rather give in to Peters's demands for $11.5M per season then pay any of these rookies $12M per season. Or I'd rather trade Peters for multiple, lower picks.

At best, we end up with someone who we have to pay as much as Peters who probably won't be as good, or at least, is a much more significant risk than Peters. Pass.

if the Bills sign Taylor to a one-year deal, they're in serious WIN NOW mode. It means that if they blow this season, Ralph is cleaning house.

Don't forget Matt Cassel - they're off the QB list this year, I think.

Ralph wins with the fans when the Bills win on the field. That's all there is to it. When we miss the playoffs for a decade, it's clear that Ralph is either a victim of colossal bad luck or has screwed up SOMEWHERE. If we pay Peters the big bucks, and he doesn't give up any sacks, Ralph'll win with the fans. If we trade him and he gets in a fight with the QB and demands a trade while Andre Smith anchors the left side of the line, he wins with the fans. When he effs up, the fans hate him. You win or you lose. When you win, the fans approve. When you lose, they want you out of town.

Okay, new guy. Make a new user account, say something coherent, and try again on this board. Let's just call this a mulligan.

What we do is allow three keepers if you missed the playoffs, or two if you made it. You can keep anyone drafted after the first three rounds, and give up the pick the player was taken in.

Twenty years ago started in 1989.

Think of it this way - how much better do you think Wells is that Marshawn? Because we're giving up a chance to address a major need by burning off that first round pick. As the trade is set up, I think I"d be happier sticking with Marshawn and giving the Broncos the first, but really, either way I think we're overpaying. I'd give up Edwards and a second round pick for Cutler, I think. My munch with Schieffler is that he'll eventually be released.

I guess the question is: do you want five Langston Walker types on your line, or Jason Peters and four Geoff Hangarteners, or Peters, Walker, and three Kirk Chambers. In terms of quality, not position of course.

I was mulling this over, thinking of the Peters situation, and I realized I didn't really have a good answer: is it better to spend your resources on fewer star players or more solid players? Are you as good as your best player or your worst? Basically, if we're in the situation where we can choose to pay Peters big money, but be out of cash and rely on rookies/journeymen to play LG and C, are we better or worse off than if we ended up with a line composed of five guys who are reliably above average? Are big-money tackles worthless if they're playing next to Arena league guards? Peters certainly struggled with Dockery over his shoulder; how's he going to do with Chambers or Brad Rodd or whatever if we do retain him? Better or worse than the Butler/Walker side of the line?

I don't object to Chambers as a backup tackle I think, it's just that it seems we expect him to start out of position in our best-case scenario right now. Worst case, Peters leaves, and he's starting at OT. Hangartner is a solid journeyman and a great signing, but he's not the kind of signing that makes a mediocre OL good. But he was at least an upgrade over Preston. The part of this that boggles my mind is that we replaced Dockery with nobody.

I mean really, every team pays its players for potential. You don't get paid for what you did last year, you get paid for what you're going to do during your contract. There's no reason to sign a guy to a contract to reward him for the past few seasons, it's to secure his services for the next.

At least the problem with Mike Williams was scouting rather than grossly misunderstanding the needs of the team. It would have been a great pick had he been a star tackle, and a solid pick even if he were just reliable. It's our current administrations' repeated decisions to ignore our needs that gets to me.

With five starters, injuries on the offensive line are pretty inevitable at some point during the season, and to some extent, you're only as good as your 6th offensive linemen. Even with Peters, that's Demetrius Bell, a guy who's never played in a regular season NFL game. With Peters gone, every NFL fan and journalist will have to do some research to figure out who the primary backup will be. Except Pete Prisco, of course. So as scary as it is to look at our potential starting lineup for the fall, just imagine what it will be like when any single one of those guys gets hurt.