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12 minutes ago, steven50 said:
Sure thing, and Sam Darnold and Josh Rosen were both picked before Josh Allen by those same NFL teams your talking about.
You know who else was super popular and a "defensive genius" ? Rex Ryan.
You know who else has the same winning percentage as BB has without Tom Brady (.480) ? Rex Ryan.
It isn't about hype, it isn't about popularity, it isn't even about reputation, sports is about wins and losses and (yet again) BB has more losses than wins without Brady.
He is a sub .500 coach without Brady. He no longer has Brady. He will continue to be a sub .500 coach
What exactly does Josh Allen have to do with this..I honestly miss that point?
Rex Ryan is not even in the NFL anymore?
Anytime you want to argue with his peers about the nickname they refer to him as..go right ahead
My whole thing over this BB/Brady debate
Let's actually try debating this 3/4 seasons after.. not barely out of the first season...thats just dumb.
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So people don't have to make up stories to best fit their own agenda...
https://www.businessinsider.com/patriots-draft-tom-brady-2014-5
How The Patriots Drafted A Hall Of Fame Quarterback In The 6th Round
Excerpts from the article:
A lot of people think the Patriots just got lucky in drafting a future Hall of Famer so late in the draft. In reality, luck had very little to do with it.
The Patriots Were High On Brady
Prior to the draft, quarterbacks coach Dick Rehbein was sent to scout quarterbacks, Belichick said in an interview with NFL Network.
When he returned, Rehbein told Belichick that Brady was "the best fit for the [Patriots'] system" and others in the front office and among the coaches agreed.
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"But we were looking for the mental makeup...Belichick did a lot of homework on him, along with our staff, on his mental makeup. Watching the tape, he was the guy that would go in and lead them back to victory."
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5 minutes ago, matter2003 said:
you are delusional if you think someone drafts a QB in the 6th round and thinks they have drafted the QB GOAT
Where did i say that? I have said the complete opposite, so thanks for furthering some of my points.
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3 minutes ago, matter2003 said:
He is actually a pretty bad GM overall. His last Pro Bowl player he drafted was Jamie Collins in 2013.
Picking up free agents is part of being a GM too. Glimore anyone......(whole list of others)
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5 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:
I think coaching is in his blood.
As a GM he has done a good job of jettisoning players before they decline. As a GM his drafts have been so so but no better or worse than any other.
Thread. He is not given up his duties nor is he going to retire anytime soon. He has stated that in the past.
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42 minutes ago, Doc said:
Yeah, even by the Cheaters 6 times. Hell he wasn't even their first 6th round pick that draft. That's the definition of lucking into him.
first sentence sour grapes...boooo hooo i am going to call them "cheaters" your second sentence is you just unwilling to give any credit so i will let you sit on your hill.
38 minutes ago, matter2003 said:Belichick almost chose Tim Rattay over Brady...they literally were having a debate and only chose Brady because their QB coach Dick Rehbein loved Brady and was presented the choice of Brady or Rattay and he said Brady...ironically he passed away that summer at age 45 before Brady even played a single game.
Plans can change awfully quick at that age due to health concerns, etc...
whether it was BB first choice or last..what does that matter...he was drafted and developed under BB...
and if and when plans change..come find me to tell me "you told me so..."
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Oh and another thing. He plans on coaching for at least another 5 years he has said that already. I do not know why that is so hard to understand. Nothing happening right now is changing that. He wants to show he can do it without Brady so he is not "quitting" anytime soon. And again this is year one...not 5 years Into a patriots rebuilded.
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50 minutes ago, Doc said:
The point is that even a genius coach like BB still needs the players, namely the QB. He lucked-into Brady and the real question is whether he's going to want to go through a total rebuild at his age, when the most important part, the QB, isn't anywhere close to being found.
I think I acknowledge the first sentence that every great coach has great players. So you need to direct that to your follow poster. Who also said he is just an average coach. Which he is far from that.
Next he didnt "luck" into Brady. Brady was a 6 round pick who everyone in the NFL past up on. He was not a projected first rounder who "fell" into BB lap. He was past on by everyone.
BB drafted him and helped developed him big part of this debate that gets glossed over. BB help Brady grow into a great QB. As you know history shows you great QBs are not late round picks....alot went into Brady's development and BB was apart of that. Adding to BB legend and complete asinine to think It was all Brady.
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On 11/11/2020 at 2:57 AM, steven50 said:
BB is 21- 25 in New England without Brady. You can keep posting whatever you want but that number wont get any better this season as a matter of fact I bet it gets worse. He has a losing record without Brady in New England and in Cleveland.
We have had a ton of coaches that had sub .500 records without Jim Kelly, a lot of them had a couple of great games. That doesn't make them a genius.
Because 1. They weren't good
2. The name he earned it from his peers ...you wanna go tell actual NFL heads he is just an average coach?
If BB was to become a free agent coach right now...in fact put every coach back in a pot and or lottery and let's see who get picked first..
Take Brady and Bruce Adrians off the bucs now. Switch them w Cam and BB and let me know what team would do better, sinse we are going to be irresponsible and debate Brady/BB after barely one season.
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14 minutes ago, steven50 said:
If by someone you mean me I just did.
BB is 51-65 as a head coach without Tom Brady which includes a 21-25 New England record without Brady. So far he is a sub .500 coach without Brady with a record comparable to Norv Turner, Jack Del Rio, or Lou Saban.
Yes I am referring to you because If you did, you would know. Every great coach has great player(s).
Don Shula w Marino
Walsh w Montana
Etc.
And BB is not the same coach he was in Cleveland. I know his detractors can't understand that cause after all. The Browns had all those great coaches after he left..
BB had his defensive game plan w the giants in the SB elected into the HOF
Won his first SB against the rams with Tom Brady not being Tom Brady yet..won his last SB so far without Tom Brady not doing anything...
BB with his JV squad could easily of been 6-2 this year all things considering...there is quite a few things you can see of his resume that would show he is a great coach..
The numerous times he has confused the hell out of Manning for one...
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7 minutes ago, steven50 said:
Bill Parcells was already the coach of the team when Kraft bought it and as is oft noted but frequently ignored, Bellicheck has a losing record as a coach when he doesn't have Brady.
Pete Carrol lasted three years in New England. Finishing 1st once and 4th twice.
Bill Parcells coached 4 years in New England finishing 1st once, 2nd once, and 4th twice.
Kraft fired them both.
Bellicheck is not a coaching evil genius. He is just a good coach that guy lucky with one of the top 5 qb's in history.
Kraft is not some great coach magnet he got lucky with a guy that was already there when he showed up. Then he did go out and get someone regarded as a great but fired him over personal differences. Then he got Bellicheck who was not highly regarded at the time and who got lucky with a late draft pick that no one else thought much of at the time named Brady. Brady only got to play because of an injury to the starter. No one at the time including Kraft or BB expected him to turn into what he did.
We have to stop suffering from battered wives syndrome when it comes to the patriots.
ha ha at just a good coach..
someone needs to look at his resume a little deeper...and who the hell every called Kraft a coach magnet...do you realize how owning a team works. If BB left tomorrow and for the sake of the discussion Kraft called up Jim harbaugh and offer him full control of the team. He would sign right?
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at this point...makes not sense for the Pats to try to make the playoffs. I wanna think BB knows that..
I mean they could of easily have been 6-2-with last sec loses to seattle and buffalo...but I am all for regrouping for next season.
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51 minutes ago, P Riv said:
Sounds good, but seems apples to oranges to me. Before Belichick was Pete Carrol and Bill Parcells. As long as the Kraft family owns that team they aren't going to look like the 2000's Bills. We had an owner who was looking to run a business, not win a championship.
They have a ton of cap room for next year, opt outs coming back and they're developing young players for depth this year. Not sure what our cap and FA situation is, but they'll likely endure this year and be back in the mix next year. They need a QB, which means they'll trade down in the draft and get DT and O-line... lol Probably draft a QB in round 6.
Sums it all up right here.
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How he figured it out..1/2 the pats defense is either injured or opted out .
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On 10/25/2020 at 7:29 PM, ColoradoBills said:
I wonder if @Ghost_002! will be on the board for Pats* week?
He's all over the BB better than TB thing.
Yup he was..6 or 7 games not years does not determine 20 plus years of work.
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Dan is a fool...this whole philosophy people have makes no sense to me. They have lost the division before. If this was year four and all this was happening (losing record and all) cool would make sense...but this is just year one where except for the 9ers game they have been in every one of their games and could of easily won yesterdays game, chiefs game and seahawks game....Year one and some teams have barely escape them like people need to chill. (radio here has been insufferable)
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26 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:
I think you missed the point. You wrote "pist of," seemingly meaning "pissed off."
No no..thk you. I mean were would the world be without you guys coming out to correct posts.
Thk u!
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6 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:
Prove MY elite?
Your team...
*you're*
But go ahead this could be your moment to bring out the "typo" police.
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3 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:
Yep...that ONLY applies to the Chiefs. Not the 4-1 Bills lol. We lost to a very good Titans team (same team that bounced you guys and made Brady leave the Pats with a pick-6 as his last ever pass as a Pats QB).
Bills have every reason to be "pist of" too
Win first. Prove your elite. Not affected by last year after 20 years..
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4 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:
"pist of chiefs team"? Ok...will do.
Yea..good teams when they don't play up to their potential the game before usually come back next game and make a statement...
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5 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:
Oh, it definitely means something. It means your team is in 3rd place in the AFC East. Hilarious and delicious all at the same time.
Keep that same energy tomorrow when the bills gotta play a pist of chiefs team
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2 minutes ago, Warcodered said:
The Dolphins are currently leading 21-0 so I'll use my psychic powers to make that prediction.
And only..only if the season was to end today that would mean so much....
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5 minutes ago, Warcodered said:
and are well on their way to being 3rd in the AFC East.
Ahh we got that crystal ball out I see.
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1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said:
The last time they started at 2-3 was in 2001.
Those days are over.
They play in the AFC east. And Its week 6.
Bill Belichick the GM
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I am not arguing the grade of that draft or any of the pats draft....
You do not "luck" into a 6 round pick..ha ha not at pick 199..nobody including the pats knew he was going to be great...he worked at it...his coaches helped him...my point.