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Football is about schemes. Always has been. People need to stop looking at what is on paper and drawing conclusions. He still one of the best coaches n the nfl...and has won many different ways. If he has to play with run first offense then he will...they won 7 seven last year with a horrible roster. Their roster has improved, he still one of the greater game planners in the league.. The dude has made a name for his self. Stopping high profile QBs w his defense. Be worried about that than whose behind center.

Newton is just god awful. i dont wanna spend a whole year watching his hurky/jerky throwing motion, oh god no! But you are right, i think that will be the case. More than likely BB is going to "red shirt" Jones for a year and play Newton. Unless Jones really shows signs of being ready now plus injuries like you said. Yea i can say that is a fair assessment for both team. Yea, NE defense from last year will not be the same in anyway this season. That was the COVID-team so to speak. BB didnt intent to play some of the players he had to player. at times he was using Safeties as LBs because they were so thin. This year i expect them to be totally different, very solid and deep on the defensive side of the ball. They should make the playoffs/wild card should be able to compete for the division....keyword: should be...but we will see.

I am from Boston. It was reported the coaching staff does not like the fact he doesn't have that take charge attitude. Over the summer when he should of came into camp with the intend to beat out whoever was there, he was back home attending a wedding. Then he got hurt in camp and again never really acted like he wanted it bad enough. yea that organization man...just something about them i feel whoever goes there will always suck no matter what. Watch Darnold become most improved player next year.

that's not completely true...stidham in very very limited appearances (garbage time) had completed 50% percent of his passes with 2 TDs and 3 INTs. He doesn't see the field because the coaching staff does not believe he has what it takes to be a leader.(take charge kind of person) Really nobody knows what he is. That's not saying he is a hidden gem or could be a hidden gem. Just he didnt do enough in the off season/training camp for the coaching staff to think he wanted the job.

Nothing offensively will ever help Cam Newton at this point, he is done in my opinion, but their TEs are now the best in division. Their RB maybe even 3rd down back is the best in their division, and their Oline is will be pretty good. Wide outs are an upgrade, anything is better from last year and the won seven games considering. BB could win with serviceable wide outs, don't need top tier wide outs win.

How if they upgraded at TE and Wide out? Their offensive talent last year was dirt poor bad, just what they did alone in free agency was an improvement to their offense.

To add..most Franchises do not follow up with the second coming to their Franchise QB. Saint didn't Pittsburgh doesn't have one Colts had to tank to get luck which he became injured Denver didn't w Elway..and waited awhile to get Manning The fins didn't after Marino..there are a host of other teams. BB does deserve some criticism for drafting but you guys are not doing your homework Cause he drafts decent defensive players..he sucks on the offensive end of the ball but again most Franchises do not draft their second coming.. Who knows if Love can play after Rodgers leaves...

This is not true. He missed a would be touchdown yes, but he was not the reason why SF lost. Shannahan being Shanahan was the reason. He had the Chiefs on the ropes and spent too much time over thinking the situation after being up. Same thing he did as a offensive coordinator for the falcons when they were in the SB. This can be said about every rookie QB though. Alabama is no slouch on defense which he faced in practice and Ohio State defense did beat the crap out of Trevor Lawrence before facing Alabama and Jones for the championship. He's tested enough. Whether that will pan out in the NFL..i have no clue.....I still wanted Fields.

for a QB.....their 40 time is the least thing scouts are looking at. (that's not me being pro Jones..) Just that doesn't matter as much. Yea but you never know. P.Manning threw 28 ints as a rookie being thrown to the wolves as well. As they say "Pressure bust pipes..."

Yea I don't even know how much stake you should even put in what these QBs did, or played with in college. Aaron Rodgers was drafted No. 24 and played for Cal. How that work out?

I wanted Fields as well but the Pats like all the things Jones is capable of (accurate and intelligent) those aren't bad attributes., so we will see.

Don't need a 40 time when you can walk on water. 😉

Yea something tells me no matter who the Pats drafted plenty of Blils fans will down play it. Even if it was Jesus himself.

No problem man. Again thank you for welcoming me, thank you for having a discussion with me. This country needs to do more of this. Sorry to hear your daughter was in that situation but glad she is ok. That is one of the things that scares me about getting ready to send my step-daughter out into the world as she is getting ready for college. I think that is partially one of the reasons I am back in the gym, so I can dropkick anyone who harms her (god forbid that never happens) May you and your family continue to be safe and blessed. Like you in an effort not to detrail the thread any further. The Zimmer person approach Travyon after the dispatcher told him not to, they tussled with him losing the tussle. It wasn't him getting his butt whooped, he more lost the wrestling match they were having, maybe received one punch...and the snow shoveling incident that I am talking about, I do not think many seen it. I can't remember where, but it was a police man shoving snow in the face of a black man, appearing to suffocate him as he was trying to make an arrest. The man was already in handcuffs and on his knees. I agree with you about the teen that was shot in Ohio, the whole situation sucks all around.

Totally agree!

I do not understand what you mean or what are you trying to say? Where did I go wrong in responding to you about athletes kneeling? I don't even understand where I swung and missed the first time (shrug shoulders). I never said athletes were a special case. I said they were people like you an d I, where they work at is different than the average joe's 9 to 5. The major sport that they play in is govern different than again the average joe's 9 to 5. You are cool to have your feelings or opinion, still doesn't mean I can't or anyone can't have a debate with you. Also we do not have to agree either. I said that. Who is CK? You might have to give me more details about that situation? Where did i say, i agreed with Kaep wearing "cops are pigs" socks? I know i spoke about kneeling, never mention anything about socks!? And again, going right back to what i said before "i do not think i have ever said you or anyone opposite of my opinion on athletes kneeling do not have the right to your opinion or you do not have the right to dislike it" so in this post here police, ANYONE can have an issue with it. They also do not have to watch the sport, Again doesn't mean there can't be a debate or it doesn't mean someone's point or points on the matter can't be challenged. I am not quite sure what is your issue. Do you have a problem with anyone debating your posts? and for the 3rd time asking for equality is not political. What is DJT? Trump was not passionate about the flag for those who are, i can understand that and respect that. And others have passion for not wanting to see black people judge by the color of their skin. I want to be able to wear a hoodie and not have someone feel they are the law even as a neighborhood watchman and get into a confrontation with me and all I had was a bag of skittles in my hand or in my pocket. ( trayvon martin) Or not have a knee on my neck, or snow shoved in my face by the men and women who are suppose to serve and protect. (i am not saying all cops have done this) Again that is the reason for protesting, that was the reason for Keap kneeling....he wanted to bring to light a ongoing issues that some black people face. He found a peaceful way to do it but instead of it bringing positive dialogue it was met with distain and people not willing to understand the purpose, People trying to make it out to be something it NEVER WAS. About the military

I didn't lump you or anyone into a group. So please do not do the same to me. I am someone with his own thoughts and his own views and perceptive. I ask and this goes to DOC too. Because the main story is a teen lost her live, but your commentary to me, turned into trying to take a shot at the left and the media more than what should matter...to me you would be no different than the people, political party or posters you oppose. It's divisive in my opinion. Now yes I am new here so i don't know the whole story between you and whoever oppose your thoughts but both sides (republicans and democrats) do the same thing....stand there and point fingers at each other and talk about how each other are doing the same exact thing. I could be speaking out of turn, but in general that is why i asked a question and didn't "assume" anything.

I am curious about something. Do you care in this story you posted that a teen has lost her life or you more concern with it fitting what seems to be your agenda. "The left" bad and "the Media" bad too?

I agree what this bill is doing, and as I said the whole thing is "fishy" but we gotta be careful how we are wording it because for the sake of the discussion there are definitely plenty of white people in Georgia that did and want to vote blue. Again i do not know all the language so i could be wrong but my mother lives in Atlanta and just had knee surgery so can never stand up for a long period of time again. And my understanding voting in Georgia takes hours...hours to do so if the bill is eliminating or limiting "mail-in" ballots that leaves her at a disadvantage and that is b.s.

I honestly think, with these emotions starting from when kaep kneeling peacefully and getting the backlash from it, police brutality, trump fanning certain fires, the electionon, the "Karens" of the world... all of it has cause a great divide with a lot of black people thinking we are the hunted in every way. It's unfortunate but that is the cricks of the matter and why I said to a follow poster as a country if we speak to one another, have a discussions more...we do not have to agree but being able to listen and also talk things out. A lot of crap could be better viewed. of course the media does not help, from both sides though. Not just from the left, from the right too. I remember when all the rioting started I had a back n forth with a poster on another forum. I said if we want change as people we need to handle all of this responsibly. I understood the rioting immediately after Floyd was killed, but it needed to stop there after because it was going to take away from the overall message and that message is " equality". We as black people want to be looked and judge just like everyone else. Continuing to riot is doing a disservice for the true cause. Case and point. The decision has been made with the Floyd case but instead of us as a people looking to solve the issue between police and black people we have talking heads, and people in general talking about rioters and looters and how it affected the case. Like we took a step forward to move two step back. And of course a lot of this rioting is not for any of the right causes....

Gotta disagree with the bill being called "racist" and I am a black person. Although i can say I do not know all the "language" and understanding of the bill. I think how and why the bill is coming to pass is f'd up, suspicious and think it's a bunch of b.s., but It's not racist. It's not singling out a particular race. A political party I would say yea, but not a race, because in my opinion I think it's singling out voters who want to vote democratically but obviously not all democrats are black and/or brown.....Chinese, Japanese, etc.

Unfortunately there is a great portion of our society that just do not trust the police. From past events to present events it's just what it is. It's unfortunate but I think all of us, would understand or can understand...if you have a bad experiences or had a closet friend or love one who had a bad experience you too will be skeptical. And that is with anything not just police. It's a natural human reaction. For many, all they know from policeman are firing hoes on black people in the 60s, falsely accusing a black person of a crime that they didn't commit and the abuse of their power. Now I didn't say that is what all police do. I am stating how a large portion of the country sees it that way and its not because of cnn or fox news, tweets or any other media outlet. It's been that way for decades. Now the rest of your post I agree 100%. this is what I would like everyone, us as a people, politicians/law makers to focus on. Educating the public AND POLICE on how to deal with each other better.

Thank you for welcoming me and also willing to have a debate with me. Greatly appreciate it. So first, I do not think I have ever said you or anyone opposite of my opinion on athletes kneeling do not have the right to your opinion or you do not have the right to dislike it. We need "to go further than that" because it's what this country needs. "A discussion/communications/debates/talk" it's healthy, it helps everything become more understandable. You and I may never agree on this subject, but at least we had a discussion on it. and these quotes from you " If everyone is entitled to an opinion and thoughts on the subject, why do we need to go further than that? " "I’m not looking to players for any great life lessons" so everyone is entitled to their opinion, but athletes are not allowed to theirs? You are on here expressing your opinion. So does that mean it's only ok, if someone agrees with you but not ok if someone doesn't agree with you? And although I agree some owners my not like their protest they are certainly "allowing" the athletes to express their opinions. Again the protesting by athletes is done before a game that is for like 2mins, and if anything is brought up it's like in passing, or made mentioned for probably another 1 mins or so during the game. I mean i don't see where it hinders viewership. If you don't wanna watch to begin with then you were never interested. Some do talk about it after , but in my opinion who honestly sticks around to hear an athlete speak post game anyways in general. and again asking for equality is not political. What turned it into this political talking point was the ex president who seen it as a way to get voters, to increase his like ability, so he of course put two and two together and created a even bigger fire storm which that seems to be what his presidency toward the end was about.

Been reading this side of the forum and found it interesting. Never really had any intention to reply but this made me speak. First mistake is although football, soccer, bball is entertainment...its being played or performed by "people" just like you and I are So whether you agree with their opinion or not they have the right to exercise that however they see fit. Just like you and i. We need to stop viewing major sports as we do an average Joe's 9 to 5. It's not the same and it's not governed the same. So when they are in "uniform" they have the right to do whatever they like. I don't remember any athlete kneeling during a game, I remembered it being done before the game even starts so what is the problem? Men and women fought for our right to stand or not stand for the anthem so if it bothers anyone so much just change the channI. ..the national anthem is what....on for 2 mins before a game starts..I mean if we were to really look into what Americans are doing during the national anthem i am sure we will see plenty doing things other than standing and honoring the flag. And I will never understand how is asking for equality political... To me kneeling peacefully is a lot better than rioting n looting in my opinion.

Do your research....it's not hard to click on my name and see when and what I have posted here.