Ghost_002!

First off, if your coaching staff puts you QB in the right situation why couldn't they succeed? Their TEs are better and WRs are better. Line is better..I guess Josh McDaniels won't know how to scheme the offense to play to their strengths. And he said a late run which could mean something as little of winning 10 games, a playoff spot.. he was being fai, but you're acting like he was talking about a SB or something

So rookie QBs can't string together some games now? He said a late run, I don't think he was talking about a SB or AFC champion.

My original post or statement was true. It had nothing to do w commenting on training camps in general Then when asked, i said i just don't start jumping to conclusions off of news here in june. I like to wait knowing there is a process for teams n players to get ready.

Yea see the things is. I am gonna post whenever I feel like. So tough if u don't like what I have to say.

Yea my example of Josh Allen was just how everyone outside of buffalo viewed him and it was on a show and prove bases. I understand of course from a fans stand point you would be more invested to looking closer at Josh Allen. But that was how Allen was viewed until he could prove otherwise. so back to my point he didnt start off playing like how he played last season. So I dont get bothered by what is reported either bad or good by any team during mini camps.

Well that is the difference i guess on how we view things. Everything is NEVER how It's reported and nothing is ever what it's indicated to be once the actual season starts for a number a reasons. Case and point. Josh Allen for his first season and a half was looked at as a glorified running back with no accuracy. Fast-forward to now, he seems to be much more than that. So what should i had believed, him looking like crap for the beginning his career or we shouldn't start jumping to conclusion at every given moment. I don't "drink the water" so to speak and I have enough data to believe what i believe about the coaching staff they have proven it. If they were able to drum up 7 wins last year with that horrible squad, I am sure they will figure what will work for them for the up and coming season.

Too earlier to know what the weaknesses could be or will be this season, again we are in June And what do you mean by "Billeive syndrome"?

for me again it's June, not thinking Newton will do better than what is already seen. I think he is toasted, but I am not concern because i have no idea what is going to happened. I still believe in the coaching staff and the head coach has proven to squeeze blood from a rock on many occasions. More than others have, and their roster is better. What is not being talked about is their defense is going to be solid. Something that wasn't last year. I think that will factor in a lot for them.

What in my statements are not true. Is it not Jun, are there not 3 Pats threads up? So you guys can comment but I can't? U guys are having "fun" but if i turn around and contribute to the thread i am being "sensitive or defensive"? I don't want Cam as a QB i have said that before and i wanted fields over Jones also said that, but here in Jun I am not going to stress over what is happening at a mini camp while players are just in helmets and shorts. That's called overreacting, and I 'm not wired that way.

I have been here for maybe over a year, and i have also been in the political forums discussing current events as well. And talking Pats isn't talking football?

Got it!

I get what you are saying but u don't get what I am saying...

I am not being sensitive I am commenting, it seems a few don't like that I have commented? So are they being sensitive too?

Yes here in June tells us all how the season is going to go.

That's last year, we are in June this year. Are u telling me I must of missed those fins n jets threads that were up last week?

I actually participate in other threads on this forum and I am welcomed. Soooo what does that have to do with what I said exactly?

Yes!! 3rd patriots related thread on here-here in June.... Yea, some of you hyper focus still with what NE does..

Given what the thread had turned into the premise also answers the thread as well. Players hold out all the time for more money and also do not always attend OTAs. Just as well as coaches and teams don't honor contracts. Reg NFL business.

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Ha ha... Brady actually asked for Sanu believe or not.....I still can't believe they gave up a 2nd for him.....oh my stomach 🤮

You are dead on correct! In fact during the Harry draft. BB was told by his scouts that the wide outs already named in a pervious post were the ones to take not Harry, but BB ignored his scouts and took Harry because he knew Harry's college coach or is good friends with him.

Accuse you? You aren't on trial here so I don't know if "accuse" is the right word you should be using in this context. It's not that serious . And as you wrote in your very very long dictation. It's not hard for anyone to assume something and then look for any clarification. And yes you should want to face anyone. Since you are just a fan, you aren't out there game planning or playing anyone. I am sure the bills don't see facing the pats as a cake walk, but some fans here seem to act like after just one season its now the bills who will be dominating for 20 plus years... That last sentence I probably shouldn't of said. I don't want to "accuse" you of anything.

Off your first question to me alone. I am not gonna dignified it with an answer. We have had many back n forths. Again this is something you should know.

How exactly do you come to this conclusion after a short period of time no less. Nothing that happened last year indicates BB was along for the ride. Did BB screw up the personal in NE and sec guess if Brady could still be effective, yes. But nothing after 1 year tells a 20 plus year reign. It's still a team sport. QBs don't play defense and the bucs roster was light years ahead of the pats roster. Like I said if Brady had taken the lions to a SB and won it. I would understand this narrative TB>>>BB. But too short of a time table to gather any conclusion. How about given it a couple more seasons.

It's pretty simple. But since you need it spelled out. Great coaches have great players. And vice versa If you understand football. You know, It wasn't just Brady who got the patriots all those wins.. Again if you understand football.