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The QBs i named still play right? Unless i misunderstood you. You made mentioned to Jones not being mobile enough to succeed like his counterparts. Are his counterparts collecting hardware left and right? I have acknowledged that the league has evolved, i myself wanted Fields over Jones for that very reason, but to sit here and claim he Jones is not gonna be able to win a playoff game, put a team on his back or win a championship because he doesn't have the capabilities of his counterparts is ridiculous. Because 1. he is only a rookie, you don't have a clue what he is going to do or be capable of, and there is much more to the game then having a athletic QB. That's exactly where i'm coming from. You also mentioned being able to slide in the pocket, roll out, etc... Have you watched a Mac Jones game? He exactly does that...he has slide up, slide back in the pocket. They have had design rollouts for him, and he has escaped the pockets to get a few gains and slide down....so he can do enough to avoid the sack (without being mobile), which the term "pocket presence" is a trait a QB needs to have in order to be able to succeed in this league. yea why would you listen to an actual NFL pro baller who is playing in the league right now....(sarcasm) Yea, so i guess all the bills fans who have said something positive about Jones must be a patriots fan to..ha ha....you are making so much sense. i swear (Sarcasm)

Right, the QB position has evolved. But out of all those QBs you named, how many SBs have they won, how many have they even gone to..excluding Brady? I can name them. collectively taken Brady out the mix. 3. Mahomes has one, Rodgers one, and Wilson one. that's it. in fact-look at Mahomes with that ability he has...and he only won 1 SB and got his a** kicked last SB. And might not go back to another one this year. This game is so much more than just the players ability. Reason why BB is so successful. and of top of it..it's still not a good idea to have your QB running. As their positions has evolved, so has the defensive players. They are bigger and faster. QBs still getting trucked by these guys can still end a career.

He is not a gun slinger and was not adveristied as such. He doesn't have to be. For the QB position, it's important to have the mind over just having the ability. Yes being mobile makes a difference but that definitely doesn't matter if you game plan and scheme to counter what the defense gives you. Look at Brady and look at Rodgers. Rodgers has way more ability than Brady, but Brady is the more successful one out of the two.

You know this doesn't make sense right, no what they are is 6-4. there is no such thing as a "little winning streak" in NFL football when you only play games once a week. And i wouldn't start discrediting their wins because as it's been said in here already by fellow bills posters. The bills schedule has been pretty easy to date as well. In fact i heard on sport radio yesterday that to date the bills schedule has been a little easier than the patriots.. Teams have won superbowls on "little winning streaks" Look at the 07 Giants, and the Bucs from last year...they went on "little winning streaks and won the whole thing....not comparing them to those teams..just making my point about "winning streaks" He is a rookie, he is not asked to do this as of yet. This is year one. They are purposely bring him along slowly. They would have this same approach if it was Trevor Lawrence. It has nothing to do with ability, it has more to do with putting their QB in the best situation and accuracy and a great mind for the game are great traits to haveI? You need that more then your ability to sling the football or else you are Jamies Winston.

Cleveland played zone last week. How many times they did i do not know, but they played it. And he was able to find the soft spot in that zone and completed the pass to his wide outs (check his 3rd down conversions last week especially). Plus, his coach has been coaching since the 70s..i am sure he has coached him up to approach certain defenses a certain way. (that is not to say he wouldn't struggle against a solid defense)

ahhh you seem to be missing a couple games off that record there....

He is not being asked to do too much, that approach has pretty much been recognized. And Brown's "not being on top of their game.." doesn't discredit his experience against them....he been facing heavy pass rushes. yea he sure has Tyrann Mathieu fooled (sarcasm)

He's already played 3 top 10 NFL defenses this year. Including top pass rushers Jadeveon Clowney and Myles Garrett

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What exactly did i have backwards? He actually touched on my point about if you let the "reputation" control your thoughts you lose. I never said that's what every player or coach thinks. I said "IF" they do. He never once brought up the equipment issue (which is what you brought up and is what i asked you about specifically). The co-host wanted talk about the b.s. that follows the pats but didn't (see the sour grapes in his face). I do not get too caught up in referees and calls because 1. every teams' fan complains and think their teams is always being wrong by the refs, and every player complains about the refs and superstars and great teams do get favorable calls thats in every sports not something that just happens in New England solely. but at the end of the day...when the bills play the patriots you guys have won fair and square and you have lost fair and square. Point blank! Nothing "b.s." wise has taken any victory from the Bills, my point. Never said you didn't think they are a good team or don't have a great coach, what i challenged you on was the equipment issue that really isn't an issue. Also you never heard me deny spygate or the other crap with the footballs..but for sure you can't say the bills had any issue with any equipment and as i pointed out other teams have complained about equipment issue in their own games that had nothing to do with the patriots.

cool...that part was talking in general about teams and coaches, the very thought that teams have to think the patriots are cheating is already an edge to them even though there isn't anything there. (the ole devil trick)....my thought about the fans can be the same as well....but overall nothing has happened, so what is there to worry about? 20 plus years and NOTHING. I get what you are saying, but still; Nothing.

well....and if any coach or player spends anytime thinking more "what could be" than the actually game plan you already lost. If nothing has happened what is there to worry about..i mean overall teams are suppose to keep things away from other teams right...playbooks, game plans, signal calls...etc.

I always laugh at this stuff. From Sanchez Jets team... looks like a jets coach tripping an opposing player running with the ball....emmm

So that's why Mark Sanchez was never a great QB or barely ever beat the pats. Because his headset went out "allegedly"? The ole "greatest trick the devil ever pulled..." and fans and teams eat it up. I mean nothing ever came out it but it's the patriots so it must be true, right?..Joe Judge was just complaining about his headsets not working when the Giants played the chiefs....buuuuuuut it's only in foxboro, "allegedly" If so, then a Bills fan shouldn't have any issue since there is no case of anything happening to your team. So when you play them, you are playing them on fair terms and equal grounds...

Point out when was the last time the bills played in foxboro there was an issue? An actually legitimate issue?

With all due respect....i wish people will stop with this "hype" stuff. 1. its what talking heads do, and 2. you guys seem to not have a problem with it when GMFB doesn't for your whole entire team? I mean after all this board has been dogging him since the patriots drafted him..so it kind of evens out. And because you guys may not see much patriots games...their online is not ridiculous good. They are a "path work" line in which he has been getting hit a ton. It's been a topic here locally all season long. The line has played better these past week, but this is not a great line that he has benefitted from.

This is something they hold onto and their last ditch effort. He is a rookie they are not asking him to do too much..has nothing to do with his ability has everything to do with how they wanna bring him along. It would of been the same thing if T.Lawrence was here. And Jones has now played 3 top 10 defenses in the league already...unless i missed it... did the bills who are very good on both sides of the ball, but did their defense turned into the 85 bears...or even the 01 Pats? He will continue to be tested of course, but they will prepare him to face his next test as they been doing all season long.

You wanna go through the roster again....snippets Cam is not here, their wide outs were Damiere Bryd, N'Keal Harry, TEs Devin Asiasi, Ryan Izzo, DE; Derek Rivers, John Simon..i can go on... Basically there are players who started for this team last year or were in the bills games who are no longer here or are now backups this year. Makes a big difference, and 20 years is a much larger sample than one year(one year is not enough...) so i don't know what that is suppose to mean for this year or these coming years. and cool do not sweat it...you aren't the players so like the talking heads your feeling for the up and coming games don't really matter. The players gotta play the game, and coaches gotta coach it.

Oh....ha ha when you can log on and read a post from a "stank_nasty" who is followed right up by a "filthyBeast" lol!! Oh I love it, good sh*t!

I honestly have them losing that game for some reason....i think Pitts eat them up.

Yea...sure, you guys can sure up the Oline...and so can the pats...which BB believes in building inside out..so he his self is about the Oline/Dline and special teams.And he (BB) is no rush "to give" Mac Jones the team yet..... Right every team looks to improve and the ones who understand what to do, do it. for sure. But my main point is....you have them nipping at your heels now. They will be better and more of "a threat" than "an upstart" of a team next year. (maybe a contender.....maybe.) Another way of saying it....the road maybe tougher than it was this season or even last year for their rivals.

And what is more likely to happen?

ok and? You lost to a no name QB then...doesn't make it any better does it?

what does last season has to do with this season? On top of the fact they are totally two different teams. With two totally different rosters.

who is beat hard? what time are you talking about?