Ghost_002!

Yes...you get rid of your franchise winning QB you are starting over. In fact it's even sweeter because those two reasons is why everyone thought they were going to suck for longer, but it's starting not to be the case.

But the point. They are not out matched facing a Miami team whose 4-7.

Patriots are tied for first in year 2 of their rebuild. Pats fans shouldn't worry.

wait this is your reason they could lose to Miami, in Miami? Really?

Well said, I wanted to reply to the first poster you replied to, but honestly couldn't form an opinion as well put together as you did.

What you read was me telling you "strategically" how the patriots play or will like to play. Completely different than talking about effort or playing with emotion. And come on man...you now telling me because "you're" saying they won't score 6 points again, that means they won't? You for real? I heard a few fans on this board say the pats can't score more then 15 or 17 a game at the beginning of the season....well looks like that is completely wrong. My point, you can't predict for sure the outcome of these games.

See again....the patriots offense option isn't Mac. It's the running game. Beside you guys, the Pats played Brown and Panthers, two top defenses and like you said the Browns D-line is better. Look at the pats run stats-against the Browns and Panthers. Against the panthers they rushed for 151 yards. Using 3 backs. Stevenson had 62/Bolden had 54 and harris had 30 against the browns they ran for 184 yards. Stevenson had 100/Bourne had 43 and bolden had 32. Harris did not play he was injured and he is their top back. It's Harris/Stevenson then bolden.... They are going old school this year. Run and defense. The pass is complimentary like a jab to a boxer. The pass is not how they are trying to beat you if they can help it. What makes you think they wouldn't? You have no idea how they are going to play. Or as I said, if the were schemed into playing that way. You do not know.

^^^ Ok more WWE banter....got it, enjoy the reason of the season!

Huh? do you honestly follow what you say..do you even understand what you say...you said the only thing you talked about was Mac Jones..i pulled up something you talked about and was negative about other than Mac Jones...and you post this? Like are you ok?

You realized he played the number 2 ranked defense(i may have their ranking a little high) in the Browns right. You are hyping White up like he(Jones) didn't just face Myles Garrett and Jadeveon Clowney

oh my buddy is back....ok see the underlined. ^^^ seems here you are saying something other than talking about Mac Jones.. and honestly at this point when you post..your replies sound like a script from WWE when the heel is talking to the crowd.

What does that have to do with strength of schedule between the two teams? And seeing who you played, given your roster you should be on top if not then there should of been a thread about the Bills being all hype. ha ha you like wanna crap on the pats for not playing anyone, but celebrate the bills who have also not really played anybody..ha ha. Man your posts be making me laugh.

Bills opp. to date: Steelers (L), Fins twice, Jets, Texans, Jags(L), titans (L), Football team & the Chiefs (W)....emm seems like Bills weren't playing a bunch of world beaters and defensive juggernauts either.

They shouldn't, they truly shouldn't but you know....that's why they play the games...because you never know. Plus it may not have been effort and more about scheming and that's why they lost they way they did to the jags...but i didn't see the game so you would know better than me. And i am sure McD will not have them "sleeping at the wheel" when they play the Pats twice....like you are saying.

The focus is too much on Mac Jones...the real issue is the patriots defense. What exactly will the bills do against BB defense. If the Bills come with the same effort they come against the Jags, then how exactly do you think the game will turn out?

ha ha just wow!

Have nothing but the ultimate respect for you! *cheers*

here's a hint....i am not bother by this thread, I am not bothered being here, I am not bothered by the likes of you or anyone else. You seem more bothered than i do..so I will carry on as a poster here. And you seem like you have it together talking about the silly thread going way, but post in the thread to keep it going....

???? i am just gonna speak for myself....where have you seen me screaming "oh the pats are back!, we are coming for the division..rah rah...we have Mac Jones...etc"???? You will never find that because i do not do that here. I have gone out of my way to praise the bills, their players and praise majority of this fan base....i have never brought up the pats success to rub it in anyone's face. If i have brought up their success. It was to make a point during a topical conversation/debate/thread/post. And again, it's YOUR fellow bills posters who make these threads up that you guys come into and anyone else can come into and talk about.

^^^^ Again i will ask...so there is not a section of buffalo fans that over hype their players...? ESPN doesn't hype other players and teams in other sports...or you just really really bothered because it's your division rival that has been so successful for 20 plus year and just when you thought it was all over...they maybe coming back after a very short time at the bottom. I think Allen has proven his self as an elite QB. Now he has to prove he can when a AFC championship....and SB. But Josh Allen is that dude the way i see it.

You don't have to care, nobody has to care..but i am sure, had we been talking about another bills player that people outside of buffalo doubted and another player happen to be praising him. I am sure his comments would show up in the topic...i mean it's a natural debate and discussion. Talking points, using visuals and other references to make your point. *shrug shoulders*

I know right..i mean after all it was a bills fan that made this Mac Jones thread to begin with that you keep coming into as well. I mean what am i thinking talking about a topic that someone else created for people to talk about...wow what a concept. Wait maybe i shouldn't use too much sarcasm. That may show signs of a disability issue. So i was told.

So how does Tyrann Mathieu have that old mentality? I never knew using "sarcasm" means you may have a disability. Seems you know a lot about this, do you wanna talk about it? The thought was mobile/athletic QBs are the future. A pocket passer is a thing of the past and will not be as affective. I beg to differ if you put a team around them. No team is winning if they are relying solely on their QB, cause he can throw and running, etc- Pigging backing off the tweet Tyrann Mathieu put out.

First off, yes "Paper Tigers" but you seem like you really want to point out my mistake, so i will be sure to punish myself for the mental error. I am sorry sir, please forgive me? 2nd..i was not addressing you or this whole board. I replied to one poster when i made the "prove me wrong statement" so I am not quite sure why you think you were addressed in that. And to the rest....you are making my point i was trying to make in general about what Jones is limited to compared to other QBs will not be a problem if he truly is a solid QB.. If he truly is a solid QB, as long as they build a good team around him, he can win, he can also win them some games. He doesn't need to have a big arm or be able to run like hell out the pocket. Especially with the way NE runs their system.

Oh so you are acknowledging there is much more than just having a mobile/athletic QB to win......Thank you. please come back and try to prove me wrong, you do sooo well at it, time and time again. And yea..as great as he is and as much as he has accomplished. If KC didn't have a defense he would not have won a ring. KC needed more than just him in the SB last season. Seeing he doesn't have a defense now again, and he was very lucky when they played the packers Rodgers was not there. Because he, the whole team have been playing very suspect so far. I mean this board had a thread doubt KC being "paper champions" sooo.