Ghost_002!

And please tell me what are the bills? See the pats weren't suppose to compete in the division this year with a rookie QB but here they are And oh I see..everytime the bills lost it meant the pats got lucky and won enough to catch up to the bills and move past them, got it!

Show me where I said this? Ok..you show me where I called out any team or any fan base. People here love to project what is being said alot huh?

Yes cause they did the samething to all those other teams they lost to right?

I explained what I meant and the purpose of that statement. Enjoy the rest of the thread. 👍

I didnt mention any other team or any fan base. Try again.

*face palm......* he plays for your rival team, the team you hate most...just like when brady was here!?

You too have no idea what that statement meant....that statement was not comparing him to tom brady...it was to say that rival fans will discredit everything about a team in their division before conceding anything in favor of that team. POINT: when Brady was here, i am sure plenty of rival fans rather had in front of a car before coming to the realizing he was good. edit: I am wrong to generalize. SOME rival fans. That's true...time sure flies......so at bars, telephones calls, living rooms and water bubblers meetings then.

Yup he is a helluva coach....if they are to go back to the basement, it's better to have at least tasted victory than to not know what it's like at all.

Please don't play this game with me. And it's clear you have no idea why i made the statement i made.

Yo..i can't with your evaluation of this guy, It's generally so off base. He is not as mobile as other QBs obviously, but there is plenty of film where he has either moved up in the pocket or ran out of the pocket, got rid of the ball, or made the following play after throwing an Int. or sacked good. Please stop with these non factual post about the guy. This has to be how it was when Brady first started out on forums such as this.

big time sour grapes... haha you truly cant believe this..standing at the record you are standing at, losing the games that you lost...you aren't playing the Jets you are fighting for the division. Horrible approach to use the excuse of the weather too..

That was never my point and i think that was never the posters original point or where ever you got this idea from. They did enough to score more than the Bills. Offense job is to score points, defense job is to stop the other teams from scoring points. That is what took place. You are arguing semantics just cause you do not want to concede the fact how the bills lost the game, or concede anyone's statement on how the bills lost the game if it's not pro-Bills.

At the bold, yes and also the offense because it was the offense that put up those points the bills were trying to overcome..(both sides did their job) And you just got done saying it's not about "what' ifs" now you are using "what ifs" !?!? Yes because BB is the coach that has gone through this many times and won championships and division titles in these same scenarios (offense driving to score) also that's why you play the whole 60 minutes of the game, case in point. last year in their first meeting. Cam Newton and the Pats were about score late in the 4th to win the game, but fumbled the ball back to buffalo. My point, you never know what could happen.

Respectfully this sounds insane. They scored more points than the Bills-so clearly the Pats offense did because the Bills couldn't tie or best the points that were already put up. You don't have to be impress by it. Cool. That doesn't matter and you're telling me the BIlls dont get surprised like that, that often. Then what was it when you lost to the Colts basically the same way? I am not implying that, but to say the pats just got lucky in that game is crazy to me.

ok..it was nothing special but yet they did wait that long to adjust. Ok i wasn't arguing how good the pats offense was...so this is a mute point, and truly doesn't matter because through out that whole game the Bills didnt do enough to win the game..i mean i dont know what else in that game you wanna discuss if it ultimately resulted in the bills losing...i mean you will just be playing the "what if game" at this point. And cool. the pats offense didnt do anything in the 2nd half, apparently didn't need to.

ha ha what???? The bills didnt win the game, good job you got down to the redzone BUT DIDN'T SCORE because of his defense...he wasn't in vegas betting on how many times the Bills will make it into the redzone. He played to beat the bills and did. I dont know how it's Belichicks fault" the bills lost is some how looked at as a negative toward BIll Belichick's game plan in that game.....wow Afraid of what? Who said you were? Yup they didnt score again, and guess what NEVER DID THE BILLS and lost. I mean do we honestly understand how the end of the score works and what took place in the game for the score to be what the score was?

Huh, then whose fault was it? What bullet? The Bills didnt score when you needed to...the last play of the game Allen had to rush the pass because he was going to be sacked allowing the Pats like 4th string corner to break off from Beasley and deflect the pass? The pats lead the whole way? The bills waiting to the 4th quarter to adj. to what the pats were doing to them on offense is pretty telling of how ill prepare they were coached up to be.

They won the game solely running the ball, they knew the weather was going to be a factor and the bills which were the home team never factored that into their game plan. That says a whole lot. You think some of those misses and drop passes the weather didnt have anything to do with it? Any way you slice it if you are to be objective, the weather had a lot to do with how both teams played. And as i said, seemed to me only one team prepared for it better than the other.

Definitely and as you should! 👍

Ouch!

All your opinion and you are welcomed to it. Reality is...no Pat fan is in fear over the bills QB being better in good or bad weather. Schemes and play can help neutralize all that stuff. It's been like that since the first pro football game was ever played. The best roster/player/ team doesn't always win.

Not moving the goal post..your premise...they way I took it was. NE fans need to fear Allen's big arm compared to Mac..which in general why do fans need to fear any QB when BB is the coach. So i replied..but you are talking about the weather. You have no idea how bad the weather is going to be and how it's going to affect either QB. Allen does throw pics no matter the weather. And You honestly have no idea how Mac can play n how he is going to play. I can see fans are going to be so locked in on the windy game in Buffalo and use it as a negative against Jones, again. "His noodle" arm, "I can't wait to see how he responds being down 14" Well in the indy game He threw for almost 300 yrds..2TDs and the last TD the ball was zipped right into Henry before the defender could get there. But hey...its much better to down size him..

So if BB slows Allen down or gets his defense to make Allen throws one of his usual picks you think that won't decide the game? Since it's looking more and more like Allen gotta do everything for the Bills.. And I know some here don't think much of Jones..but if Cam Newton moved the ball on you guys today. Mac won't be able to? He had almost 300 yards and 2 TDs after throwing two pics in the first 1/2 against the Colts in indy. So he can surely move the ball enough against the bills In NE..where the coach makes them practice outside in bad weather to be ready for it.

I don't see how they would worry given Josh has to play NE defense and not NE QB. Which having the better QB still doesn't mean anything.

Who cares what the media makes them out to be...you still have to go in there and beat them. And the Bills don't do what the Colts do. Not saying the Bills can't win.