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Just listened to the announcing crew's "analysis" of the game. Gonna be a long day.

How did he get into Harvard with a 1350? I sense a football recruitng scandal.

All good points. For my part, it is not that I think he does not deserve a chance - of course he does. My points are: - I doubt he has the skills, based on what I have seen at Florida and so far in the NFL. - He is a very devisive figure, whatever the reasons, and I would be shocked if that did not translate to issues in the locker room. - I really am tired of and confused about the arguement on a Bills message board. By that I mean, when it was a possibility he would be drafted by us, sure, but he does not play here. I do not get the fanatical "devotion" some people have to shouting out about Tebow at every opportunity, nor do I get the same bevaior on the negative side. (and this is not directed at anyone in particular, just a general observation) It is, you must admit, very different that any discussion on any other players in its longevity and persistance. I suspect Treg is right, the religious thing is polarizing, but I don't really know. - While he may well succeed, or he may well fail, since he is not a Bill, I really do not care, but I am glad he is not here. I would rather have Fitzpatrick. Yes, I did use the words "devotion", "convert" and "savior". Perhaps I was trying to be a little too cute, but honestly I do not know how else to describe this phenomenon. I certainly did not mean to insult anyone and I am sorry if you or anyone else took it that way.

I was really hoping this would all go away when the Bills did not draft Tebow, but yet it continues on. What is the zen like devotion some people feel for this guy all about? I just do not get it. I much more readily see, on the other hand, the flaws in his game that do not translate to the success in the NFL, and the fact that he inspires devotion and scorn in equally committed amounts. Whether he can play QB in the NFL or not, we will eventually find out. More importantly, Denver will find out of they can actually win with a guy so thorughly devisive. My guess on both counts is no, which is why I am glad he is not here. Unfortunately though, it looks like the Buffalo Chapter of the Tebow fan club is alive and well and intent on converting the rest of us. Personally, I could not care less since he is Denver's problem (or savior) and not ours.

Actually reminds me of the Flutie/Johnson days in Buffalo when Johnson would get booed constantly. I was at a Miami game in Buffalo when much of the crowd actually cheered when Johnson got hurt. Flutie could do no wrong to his devoted followers. Careful throwing those stones at Denver fans - they have no exclusive on being boorish. I expect if Tebow was here, we would have the same problem.

Brian Billick, the coaching genius who called the Bills game, also wrote the power rankings. He is confused as to Nelson's position, but to be someewhat fair, the Bills do often put Nelson in what would be a normal tight end or H-Back position on the field. None the less, no excuse for Billick not to know this. I wish I could get paid for being incompetent.

Vick had a running head start of 20 yards as Shep was in pass coverage all alone in the middle of the field. Vick made him look a litle silly, but the fact there is not a LB in the league who is going to make that play. Not one.

Exactly. Moats will not see significant playing time until he can show himself to be more than a situational pass rusher. As that, I would much rather have him than Maybin, but heed needs to be effective against run and pass to see much playing time.

Brian Billick is still confused about David Nelson's position, as he was on Sunday.

Best QB in the history of the league? Wow - overstate much? You were the one making the point about how fabulous the Jets defense is and how bad the Bills suck. Yes, they "held" Brady to only 321 yards, but they gave up a ton rushing, supposedly their strength, and lost the game. By the way, the Bills beat the Pats in case you missed it, intercepting "the best QB ever to play the game" 4 times. They really suck compared to the Jets! Wow, I wish we were 2 and 3! As for your Kyle Williams campaign, you do not know what you are talking about.

The Jets gave up over 300 yes passing and 135 yards rushing to B-j-G-e yesterday. Awesome they are! You are on some sort of campaign here obviously.

Chad Kelly needs a spanking.

Also note that the Super Bowl teams were top defenses who also had very good offenses. You still need a top defense to win championships. Ask New England.

So what's new? 6 weeks ago it was the same, but with the opposite bent, i.e. "they suck", Andrew Luck sweepstakes"; "Lucky to win 2 games", "Nix and Gailey are idiots", etc. Anyone suggesting a reasonable chance of success was branded a homer and a moron.

I hope so. Beat Brady like the spoiled child he is.

Great post. This team was not going to go undefeated after all. This is a process. People should relax and enjoy the ride. A 9 or 10 win season and competing for the playoffs would be a fair expectation and well beyopnd what most fans and NFL observers expected.

Unfortunately I was traveling yesterday and have not yet seen the game - just highlights - but I am none the less still euphoric over this win this morning. What a great victory for this team. I have said this before but I absolutley love what Gailey is doing with this team. Not just the creative offense and brilliant play calling, but especially the attitude he has instilled in his players. What a great job of coaching. I love this team.

Unfortunately I was traveling yesterday and have not seen the game yet - just highlights. Despite that, I am still on a high this morning after this win. There is something special going on with this team. I have said this before, but I absolutely love what Gailey is doing with this team. Not just the creative offense and brilliant play calling, but more so the attitude he has created with this team. What a great job of coaching.

Not excusing their ignorance, but in fact he has been used much like a second tight end. He lines up on the line sometimes, in the backfield sometimes, and split out sometimes. Because of his height and mismatch potential whether you call him a 4th WR or a second tight end, the net effect is the same. Roscoe is a big loss in this respect, because now Nelson will likley move to the slot and they lose some flexibility. Hopefully, Roosevelt can step up to the slot position sooner than later because I love the way they have been using Nelson.

No, I am not worried about it as that game is over. We won. The end.

Agreed. A couple of points: 1. while the deep ball was not a big part of the game against Oakland they did take some shots down the field against KC and were successful. It is a myth that the Bills cannot go deep without Evans. 2. A look at the winning touchdown against Oakland, or any number of other plays during the game, would tell you why Evans was not valued. the versatility in the offense is predicated upon the wide receivers being capable of playing a number of roles based on the situation. It was plainly obvious last year Evan did not fit this scheme. I hope he does well in Baltimore - I always liked Evans - but he was a non- factor in this offense and would continue to be.

+1. Always look forward to Bill's post, and win or lose, it is the best post game thread.

Excellent points as usual, Bill. I thought the O Line played well all day, especially on the run, but Fitz had time when he needed it as well. Dareus is a stud. Did you ntoice that after getting burned on screens earlier in the game, he actually came off his block and came across the formation to make the tackle on screen to the other side in the 4th quarter? I totally agree on Nelson. I was very impressed with Spiller in the way he read blocks and exploded to the hole. He is definitely not a pile driver, but his speed and quickness are unquestionable. Definitely getting there. Merriman had a tougher day today, and the lack of rush is troubling, but he has defintiely made a difference on this defense and I think he will continue to improve - he has essentially been out for over two years. McKelvin had a tough day. I thought he played that deep ball really well but it was certainly disappointing he could not outfight the WR for it. The DBs are going to have to play better as a group, especially next week. The best thing about this game is the way they came out after a poor first half and took control of the game. No quit in this team - love it. Fitz is a great leader and they absolutely believe in him. Gailey gets a lot of criticism around here, but he has this team believing in themselves and playing hard for one another which is great to see and a night and day difference in attitude from the lost years of Jauron, Mularky, and Williams. I love his play calling - they are fun to watch. Tighten up the D next week, and I see no reason they can not hang in there against New England. I was really scared over this call - it could have gone the other way. I am sure Searcy will receive some "personal instruction" on this point today. Rookie mistake that he got away with thankfully. How depressing would that have been?

She's kind of cute - must be an NFL expert.

What you suggest would not actually be the smart move. They have plenty of data on Fitz with which to make a decision now. Waiting until the end of the year only gives the player all the leverage. If he has a great year, he will be a hot commodity and would be stupid not to listen to offers, drastically reducing the Bills opportunity to keep him.. The attraction for him to sign now is to reduce his risk. This places somne risk on the Bills but also gives them negotiating leverage. The smart move is to lock him up now if you are convinced he is the guy you want for the next few years at least. Is there risk in this? Sure, but otherwise they need to be prepared to move on without him next year, which they do not seem to be. They need to lock up as many core players as they can this year - that is what the cap room if for.