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Unimpressed. Struck me as a typical NFL guy, not someone unique in any way. Thin-skinned and close-lipped.
Joe B on GR was quite to sum up his presser as "evasive".
Don't think he'll be likeable, but neither is Belichick. .
I could not care less if he is likeable as long as he wins. I guess he was evasive as he did not answer any of the questions regarding personnel plans, coordinator hiring plans, etc. Then again, why should he? I liked that he stated he thinks the players should hear his plans from him and not the media, and that he does not believe in discussing players publically. Good for him, although this will hardly make him a media darling. Not sure what people expected in an introductory PC. Let's see how the staff building goes.
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Cant say I am a deft evaluator of college talent or anything, but the QB I saw in that posted video did not look good. Poor pocket awareness, little accuracy downfiled, and poor decisions. Maybe a bad day, but the footwork is bothersome. Perhaps he can be taught and is a diamond in the rough. I could not really say.
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ummm, word of caution: this isn't a college team. these aren't college players. it's one thing to take a my way/highway approach in college. another to do so in the NFL when guaranteed contracts and practice limitations (days, hours and contact) are in place.
and before someone suggests that it's a new coach's perogative to rid team of chaff, well then that was my concern going into a coaching change in the first place: how many Bills fans sign up for more rebuilding?
just a few thoughts.
jw
Good thoughts they are. I would certainly hope that having been in the NFL and through one attitude rebuilding project at New Orleans in addition to the SU gig, that Marrone would understand this and be able to adjust his style accordingly.
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Please stop posting the same thing over and over. I think you've made you points on this hire very clear.
+1. Thank you.
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WE HAVE WATCHED HIM.
This isnt some unknown. Many of us are SU season ticket holders. We are very familiar.
As an SU season ticket holder, I would be interested in any actual analysis you may have other than "he sucks". Any actual reasoning based on his performance you can add?
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Interesting news to wake up to this morning. This clearly has a lot of fans on their heels as I think most of us wrote this off as a possibility. On the surface, I like it. I was very uncomfortable with the retread route represented by Whiz and Lovie. This is a bold move and Marrone has an impressive resume. He was clearly in demad- definitely not another off the radar move by the Bills. No denying he led a great turnaround at Syracuse. I cannot wait to hear the PC to earn a little more about his thinking, and of course, who he can attract as key assistants will be critical. Reason for optimism IMO.
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oh well.. !@#$ him.. time to close this thread and move on.
The most intelligent post of this thread so far.
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Horton's a pimp. But I did not know until this very day, it was Whisenhunt all along.
Well done!
The BuffaloBills.com hype machine is getting us ready for Whisenhunt...
It would certainly seem so.
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For those fans that say if a play fails it is the wrong call, at what point are the players responsible for a failed play?
I think the point was more about fan reaction rather than relative fault of the play call or the players. That was my take anyway.
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I think there's some truth to this. But if you want to see ineffective passing, go back to the Jauron era. Gailey's passing game was ten times more effective than Jauron's--his offense in general was.
The downfall of Gailey's tenure at Buffalo was not the way he handled the offense. It was the complete inability of the defense to function effectively with any consistency. A middle-of-the-pack defense would have had the Bills in the playoffs two of his three years here.
I absolutely agree with this - the offense was much better than the defense, and with even adequate defensive performance, they would have won more games. Still on the offensive side, there were simply too many misfires in critical siutations, not to mention fumbles and interceptions by the QB, to make the offensive design of Gailey work as efficiently as it should have. This also cost them games. What many would argue is that understanding that, Gailey should have adjusted his design to run more often, but I do not think that would have worked. When they tried to run the ball down people's throats they were rarely effective. You need balance, and more often than not it is effective passing, or at least the threat of it, that opens up the ability to run. Most teams are more pass than run oriented in today's game.
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And when it's a consistent thing, I think it's fair to complain about it.
True enough. Perhaps thats why the Coach was fired.
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The charge that the Bills were "pass happy" is a bit overstated. In 2012 the Bills ranked 13th in rushing attempts at 27.6/game, 6th in rushing yards. They ranked 23rd in passing attempts, with 31.9/game, and 25th in passing yards. This is not pass happy by any stretch, and more balanced than many teams. As another poster pointed out, it is perhaps a valid criticism that Gailey passed in some situations he should have run. I think the bigger problem these stats inidcate is that the Bils passing game was not nearly effective enough, not that they passed too much.
Any play that doesn't work is the wrong call.
PTR
Exactly.
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I'm afraid to open the link as there might be an image of Rex with his shirt off and I don't think I can recover from that.
There is, and it is frightening, but the laugh is worth it. Be brave.
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Now this is an entertaining and informative post. Can never get enough of laughing at Sexy Rexy. As an aside, it looks like he could use a little upper body work.
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Kelly is intriguing, and it certainly is nice to see the Bills at least in the running for the current hot commodity, but I would have a great deal of concern about this hire. The obvious one is who plays QB in this system? Not currently on the Bills roster, thats for sure. The biggest concern is what kind of staff he could bring, particulalry on defense. It seems to me the big issue with transitioning from college to the NFL with no NFL experience or pedigree is the ability to attract proven NFL coaches that bring knowledge and experience of the pro game and can help fill in the gaps of the HC. Very risky hire in my opinion. Exciting, but risky
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I'll believe the $400m lease break penalty keeps the team from moving to L.A. when i see it.
No one is taking this job and relocating their family, etc etc etc (and anyone who's done it knows how disruptive that is) when other comparable jobs are available. Why? Because as soon as ownership changes (which could be this year, for all we know), you get fired and replaced by the new regime (see Cleveland for the latest example of that -- I'll bet Pat Shurmer is glad he took THAT gig). If the Bills are the only HC job left on the board, fine, you take it if its offered, but not until the well of stable offers is dry. This is just human nature. Bills will watch the stable franchises pick off the best guys and we will get another GaileyWanny combo. Watch it happen. There is no other way it can go.
First, you assume the candidate we would want to hire will get offered all those others job, while ignoring the many positives people have pointed out.. Pretty naive assumption. Second, if RW dies tomorrow, the team cannot be sold and new ownership take over until his estate passes probate, a competiton for the team is held and a group selected, and the NFL approves. Best case this all takes at least two years. You are completely ignoring two very important facts in your assessment that the Bills are an "unstable" franchise. The lease deal esnure there will be no franchise movement for at least 7 years and Mr. Wison has turned over operational control of the franchise to Brandon. Among the many signiifcant changes this portends, that many people are choosing to ignore, is that in the event of Wilson's continuing decline in health and eventual death, there will be stable decision making and operation of the team through the lengthy process of determining the next ownership. I believe this actually one of the prime motivators for Mr. Wilson and his advisors. Finally, any coach coming here would know, as certainly Brandon and Whaley know, that success means not having to worry about change. New ownership does not automatically mean new management. Brandon has been very successful in running the business side. If football results match that success over the next 3 years, everybody keeps their jobs. If not, they don't. Any coach worthy anything would not shrink from that challenge, if they believe the elements are in place or could be soon to succeed.
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Wow, Horton gave a great interview today after meeting with the Cardinals:
http://www.azcentral...zona-cardinals/
My favorite points:
Q. Do you worry about being pigeon-holed as a defensive coach?
A. “I don’t. I think I’m a coach of men. I talk about a plan to build a team. I don’t talk about ‘hey, I can build this offense or this defense and good luck with the rest of the team.’ Whether you’re an offensive coach, you’ve got to have a defensive guy who can do something on that side. It all blends together. I think that’s a zero issue.”
Q. When they ask you about staff structure, do you say I’m still going to run the defense?
A. “Nope. I delegate. I think a guy that controls everything, controls nothing. I would be there to assist and help if needed. But I trust the coaches I hire to be experts at their positions. Now am I going to get 11, 15, 22 experts who are going to be experts at every position? Probably not. But the two coordinators are going to be experts. Really, in my power structure, that’s how it works. Your head coach and two coordinators have to be expert at their position. It’s a trickle-down effect of getting this guy to do this and hey, coach this this way and do that. There’s a hierarchy of critical positions. The quality control is not the most critical position on the staff.”
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Horton just moved up a notch on my list.
I agree. Fantastic interview. This guy certainly gives every impression of being ready.
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At first I was excited to hear the Ralph ceded power to a younger professional who is eager to make his mark on the Bills as well as the rest of the NFL.
Then I realized that, wait a minute, Ralph is 94 and by all accounts a new owner will be in place who most likely will bring in his own people to run the show. So what is the point of Ralph stepping down and propping Russ Brandon up as the new caesar? Unless he is leaving the Bills to Brandon in his will, this doesn't really make sense.
Ralph should have just sold the team if he didn't want the burden and responsibility of being "the guy". I like Ralph and appreciate everything he's done for the Bills and Buffalo area, but does he think he is going to live forever? Or maybe this was a plot designed by the new owners (perhaps a Jim Kelly led group) to soften the perception of the Bills and create a new image that is more coach friendly.
With all due respect to Ralph, when he passes,which could be any day at his age, Russ's vision and leadership of the Bills most likely ends.
It just seems odd to me. Thoughts?
First, even if Mr. Wilson passed tomorrow, there will be a very lengthy process to probate his will and distribute his assets, including the Bills. Second, there will likely be a rather lengthy competition on the purchase. On top of that, the NFL has a process for approving ownership changes, etc. This all could take at least 1 year but more like two years. At that point, new ownership could take over and clean house with their own executive team I suppose. However, by that time, if the organization is performing well, there would be no need or rush to dump an experienced executive, especially if his record of success on the business side is matched by team performance over the next two to three years.
Transferring an $800 million plus asset takes a great deal of time and planning which will be greatly complicated by the transfer being after his death., Brandon will be around for quite some time.
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How many other teams looking for a head coach had this issue? All of a sudden this lease puts us ahead of other teams that didn't have this problem to begin with?
How does that make sense?
No one said it puts us ahead. It takes away one potential negative, which makes it more attactive.
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I don't see how the new lease makes us more attractive.
It provides stability.
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Did this really require a new thread on top of the 45 pages already pinned on this subject?
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Of course there is a chance. In reality, the latest renovation is just putting lipstick on a pig. Long term survival of the team in Buffalo will require a new stadium at some point. By the time the new lease expires, the Ralph will be almost 50 years old. New ownership will almost certainly demand a new stadium. Whether the money can be found, and whether the disfunctional political environment in WNY and NYS can be overcome, will determine the long term survival of the Bills in Buffalo, no matter who the owner is at that time.
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This assertion is flat-out incorrect. The roster is NOT much better than it was 3 years ago.
- As you pointed out, he failed to draft a developmental QB.
- The pass rush has not improved significantly in spite of the vast sums of money spent in that area.
- The Bills' defense completed one of the worst defensive seasons in franchise history despite a bevy of draft picks dedicated to the unit.
- The linebacking corps is abysmal, in large part due to a dependence on past-his-prime Shawne Merriman and Nick Barnett. Sheppard has not developed into a starting caliber MLB.
- The cornerbacks have regressed. Gillmore was a good selection with great potential but Aaron WO
illiams was ranked as the one of the worst corners in the league.
- Failed to find a solid outside receiver to compliment Stevie Johnson and instead collected a bevy of slot receivers like TJ Graham and David Nelson
- Failed to bring in an athletic, pass-catching tight end and Chandler hardly qualifies. Had Rob Gronkowski staring him in the face during the draft and chose to pick Torrell Troup instead. Troup has been an outright bust.
As I said in my post, clearly some disagree. Your analysis however ignores coaching all together,overstates in some areas, and relies on the perfection of 20/20 hindsight on past drafts. A matter of opinion at this point, not facts. We will see if a coaching change can bring more out out of these players.
^ Another objective fan who gets it.
Of course. Those who agree with you are objective. Got it.
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With all due respect, Scott, you're wrong. The personnel department remains the same and will continue to remain the same, as stated by Russ Brandon.
There is certainly disagreement about how well Nix has done in his job of building the roster and rebuilding the personnel side of the business. The failure to have a developmental QB on the roster by now is the biggest failure in my opinion. However, I do not buy into the logic of some posters here that Nix has been a failure. The roster is much better today than 3 years ago.
The importance of today's announcement in terms of attracting a top coach cannot be overstated in my opinion. I suspect that knowledgeable football people around the league have a much different opinion of the Nix and the job he has done than many posters here. There has been valid concern that I have seen expressed about the Bills in terms of commitment, continuity, and the role of Mr. wilson in the decision making of the organization. I think this has been addressed. By addressing these negatives the Bills will be a more attractive situation. Continuity along with more streamlined decision making is the point of today and an important one in my view.
Bills hire Mike Pettine of the Jets as DC???
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I would love this hire. Would bring a much more creative and agressive approach which would obvioulsy be a welcome change. Great choice if Marrone can pull it off.