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I am used to seeing nonsense posted on days after losses, but this has to be in the absolute top ten. Congrats to the OP!
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In all sincerity, you could very well be correct given two knee injuries in such a short span of time. However, I must say that the second injury was entirely preventable and I hope moving forward that EJ will mitigate the risk by getting OOB in such situations.
Yes it was. Not only that, the DB went full force into his knee. Nobody walks away from that hit. It does not make him injury prone. The suggestion is non-sensical. Jim from A is on a crusade.
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Chiefs will be undefeated heading into the Denver game.
NFW
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Bills only touchdown comes on either a kick/punt return or a pick 6. They win turnover and field position battle and short fields lead to 4 field goals. 19-17 Bills, despite only 250 yards in offense.
Those who are going - loud and proud. Make Alex Smith wet himself. Go Bills!
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Several posters were making the comment when EJ first hurt his knee that we probably wouldn't see that big of a drop off by going with Thad, because EJ was a rookie playing like a rookie and Thad was essentiallythe same. As it turns out, I think they were right. Thad has filled in and given similar production as EJ likely would have (a little better or worse - its up for debate).
Well, now with Thad hurt and "possibly" not starting, I think its fair to say that Thad, Flynn, Tuel.. is there that big of a difference in their skill levels at this point? Maybe, but probably not much. Thad should know the offense better. But, Flynn might know the speed of NFL defenses better, Tuel is largely unknown and as such should be the least likely to step in.
So I guess in the end, does it really matter who starts? Either way the defense and RBs are going to have to win this more thatn the QB.
Manuel and Lewis are not even close to the same in their performances this season. Clearly not in talent level. Many of those blitz formations and secondary reads that Lewis has routinely missed Manuel was picking up. His command of the offense and pocket presence were clearly better. he needs to be back ASAP if the Bills are going to salvage anything out of the season. Sunday may be very ugly no matter who starts of the backups. I do agree with that.
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Tuel and Flynn taking first team reps, per Chris Brown...
He is pretty sore at the very least. May just be an extra day of rest for his ribs. As inconsistent as he has been, I hate the thought of starting Jeff Tuel against the Chiefs.
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As for the 2nd rounders, they are flat out studs. Woods is struggling because Lewis is struggling to get to his 2nd read. But instead of being happy about this, can we please talk more about Troupe over Gronk? I love bad Bills news!


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It's tough to make plays when you're playing a QB who can put the ball wherever he wants whenever he wants. That slant TD to Lance Moore on Robey couldn't have been covered any better. Thad fumbled twice to give the Saints two short fields and our defense held strong which led to two missed field goals. I see absolutely nothing wrong with the way we're playing defense (besides the DEF breakdown where Hughes was covering Stills, I really wish the broadcast would've looked into that play more in depth). Everybody out there are professionals, not everyone is gonna be perfect on every single play. Some of you guys have these expectations that we are gonna go and light the world on fire with a 4th string PS QB, rookies all over the field, a banged up secondary, and a banged up backfield. Not to mention one of the toughest away venues in the league. I want to see them win too, but realistically our back was against the wall from the start. We have a bright future with a great rookie draft class. Let's keep playing hard, building confidence, and see where it takes us.
In my opinion, turnovers and penalties are what lost us this game...as it seems to be a recurring theme every week. Saints produced three first downs due to penalities. Against Drew Brees and that offense you cannot allow them second opportunities, they'll take advantage and that's exactly what they did.
This is exactly right. The Bills D played well enough to keep this close throughout. They were dominant to start the game. Turnovers and penalties and general ineffectiveness of the offense lost the game. The Saint are a better team, but with an offensive performance to match the defense, the Bills win. This will come.
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It's looks like Rapoport has shed quite a bit of light on #1 today...And it has been rumored around here for months now...Byrd want to be the highest paid S in the NFL...
As for #2, the rumors were the Bills wanted to make Byrd more like the 4th or 5th highest paid Safety in the NFL...
We may not know exactly what the numbers are, but I'm pretty sure the basics are out there, and have been for some time now...
And while I really like Byrd and I hope they can work something out, if you really want to know why the Bills don't want to make him the top paid Safety in the NFL all you had to do was watch that Seattle game tonight...Byrd is good, but there's no way he's the best Safety in the NFL...No way...Top 5 probably...But #1? No way...

This has always what it has been about. With any other agent involved, the fact that the Bills had the Tag available and used it, would have prompted a negotiation leading to fair contract somewhere in the middle. There were any number of ways that Byrd could save face in that situation - Higher guarantees, more years, etc. When a player and his agent are committed to a take it or leave it posture, and willing to take on the potentially negative consequences of that, then no negotiation is possible. Hence the hold out from camp, and hence the half hearted effort to get on the field and make a difference. The worst thing the Bills could have done was buckle under to this tactic. Very bad for business long term. The net result of this is Byrd is proving himself to be a selfish, uncommitted player. Good luck on the highest paid safety thing next year. I would not trade him now unless the return were foolishly high, and that is not likely to happen.
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The reason I posted was to hopefully convince you and others from starting similar threads in the future.
Valient effort though likely in vain.
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I like how a lot of you have predicted bills wins and given some hope to such a lame gloom and doom thread.
Lame indeed. The Saints, like anyone, are beatable. The Bills secondary is getting healthy at the right time and it looks like Gilmore will be "club free". I think the Bills D can keep them in this. The Bills should be able to run on them. Thad will need to play well obviously - no turnovers - and the Bills will need to create some breaks. Tough matchup, but winnable, and no real reason to expect a blow out.
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Amen to that. Who can say what might be available in the 2014 draft? I am getting tired of this give him 3 years stuff.
So, 4 games is enough? This is non-sensical.
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The devotion that some fans have for EJ is weird. " I do not care if EJ loses every game." ??? Really?
You misunderstand. The future of the Bills depends on finding along term solution at quarterback. They need a full evaluation of Manuel's potential for that role. Thad Lewis is not the guy. Anyone who thinks so is dillusional. Manuel needs to play. If he is not the guy they need to back to the well.
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I am sure they were reluctant to expose Lewis with planned runs given he was injured in the last game. The guy was gutting it out as it was Gilmore is playing great given the situation. Dareus had a great game, as did Mario. They needed the defense to win this game and they did. Stats do to matter. The defense dominated when it counted
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It does not matter how many he wins. He is not the future of this team. I do not care if EJ loses every game. He needs to start. How else will you know? Thad Lewis has an upside of 2nd string but more likely third string. I can't believe people are seriously debating this
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You can be sure that, win or lose, the board will be filled with opinions that have no basis in any objective reality. Some people just like to whine and complain. Personally, I am thrilled they were able to win starting a scrub QB and with their top running backs both playing on one leg. Character win. Huge.
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A kick that goes out at the half yard line is a miss. You never want to aim that close. Moorman really showed why he was released when he put kicked the coverage to end the game.
Wow. That ball hit just inside the ten and there was a Bills player right there (Easley) who could have downed it any time. It was a perfect kick. On the last one, he had great hang time, and distance, and there were two Bills defenders right there who both failed to make the tackle. Oh, and two separate blocking infractions were not called.
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That was a terrible call - almost beyond belief. I have never seen that before. One of many bad calls and non-calls in the game.
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I agree 100%.
There is a very fine line between aggressive and stupid. And with the play called, along with the personnel in the game, they crossed the line in my opinion.
The real problem were the calls on second and third downs. Those were the times to be more agressive. At that point, they should have kicked the field goal, which ended up being the difference in the game. Mike Smith of the Falcons made the same boneheaded mistake against the Jets and it cost him that game. I have seen him do it repeatedly, so clearly he is incapable of learning. Hopefully, Marrone is not.
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Have respecf for you Bill, and as usual, this will probably be the last intelligent thread of the week, but you are way off base on Gilmore. I think just about anyone given the situation would not put much stock in today's performance. I also think you are being a bit short sighted on Marrone although I was very upset with that sequence at the goal line in the first half. Very mike smith like. I do
Not want to see that again.
The bottom line is that the defense let the the bills down today. I thought Lewis was great. Obviously, they should have won this game.
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You are right - have to disagree. We have no idea how Lewis will perform based on one meaningless end of season game and some preseason. Losing Manuel is a blow to the Bills however you look at it, especially in terms of continuing development. There is no comparison in skills sets, leadership, or big game experience. Hopefully Lewis can perform well enough to keep the Bills alive until the real QB gets back.
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I like the Bills chances in this game and am certainly not expecting a Bengals romp as the odds makers and talking heads have it. I think the Bills D, especially with the players they get back this week, can contain the Bengals O. Lewis is a wild card, but he is mobile, can throw on the run, and has enough experience that I am not worried about a choke job like Tuel pulled last week. If the Bills can grab a couple of turnovers and not give it away with turnovers and stupid penalties, this could actually be a big win. Bills 27 - Bengals 17.
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Marrone's Wednesday Press Conference: http://www.buffalobi...14-fdb0ce08059c
Great interview. I really want this guy to be successful.
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Why not put Tuel on the PS now and bring up Dixon. Is Coach Marrone really so afraid that someone is going to snatch up Tuel Time now? After Thursday? I don't understand the Tuel Love at OBD.
Because Dixon just got here, has been out of football since last season ended, and will certainly take some time to get up to speed.

EJ is ready to return: Set to Start at QB in Pittsburgh
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The difference being RG3 tried to play with it and Shanahan let him.