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Even after the struggles at LG, I do not believe letting Levitre walk at that ridiculous price was a mistake. The Bills did place to much faith in the players they had for that position, but it doe not mean letting Levitre was a mistake. Far from it. People need to move on from the late, "great" Levitre.
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well said.
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http://www.nfl.com/videos (The link is kind of messed up, after you click on the link, scroll down and click on the link that says "Haslam responds to "Three Stooges" question.)
"This team remains an embarrassment, not only to the NFL, but to the fans as well, we deserve better. Who really cares anymore, they have lost their fans trying to outsmart the rest of the league. Totally done with anything Browns, Haslam and his Stooges, Banner and Lombardi, can pack up and get out of Cleveland."
I wish this was directed at Russ Brandon because everything the fan/reporter said to Browns owner, Jimmy Haslam, should be said about the Bills.
I suspect you will get your wish once Ralph passes and the team is sold. Some of us do not share your opinion and wish to enjoy the ride while we can. You can always become of fan of the Patriots I suppose if you are that miserable.
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The Bills can't be in the top 3rd of the league at all positions. People overstate how bad Chandler is. He's not great but he's a decent TE and while I wouldn't mind an upgrade if a good prospect drops in the draft I also don't expect the Bills to make it a priority as they have too many other areas in more dire need of a fix.
They actually were in the top third on TE. Chandler was 13th in catches with 53 and 12 th in yards with 655. That is not bad production at all from the TE. The problem is he was the Bills leading receiver. Chandler has been a very good player for this team. That said, I would not be opposed to moving on given his age and lack of overall athleticism but it will be difficult to replace his production. Given other priorities for top draft picks, I would not be surprised if he was brought back if reasonably priced while they develop the younger more explosive guys on the roster.
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I think Norv is a lot like Wade Phillips. Horrible HC great coordinator. If Hackett gets axed I would certainly be open to Norv.
I would no call his efforts in Cleveland this year rest by any means. He is a dinosaur in the NFL. Time to put him out to pasture.
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Just for TG fans like yourself:
BN's own @ByTimGraham named NFL Team Writer of 2013 by @thebiglead http://thebiglead.co...H.uxfs …
What a joke.
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I like this thread. Did anyone read the Don Banks piece? It's worth reading in light of the topic of analysis here. I suspect Marrone gets three years, and if he turns it around next season he'll be here a while. But if the QB situation is bad and the Bills finish 4-12/5-11, I could see it ending quickly.
That's not being offensive to Marrone, btw - it's simply reflects what Don Banks says: if the QB position fails, you're out.
Also, as Badol points out, Chud lasted one year, but Schiano only lasted two. In both cases, the QB position failed.
I agree with you on the 2 year life theory if Marrone and staff cannot turn around the QB/Offense situation. I do not believe Russ will have patience for a third year after 2 years of losing if that is what happens. This would actually be an interesting discussion. I think the original post is ridiculous. JMO.
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Yolo's thoughts...
Coach of the Year: Donnie Henderson
Most Improved Player: Aaron Williams
MVP, Offense: Fred Jackson
MVP, Defense: Mario Williams (honorable mention to Kyle Williams)
MVP, Special Teams: Dan Carpenter
Rookie of the Year: Kiko Alonso
Most disappointing player: Stevie Johnson
Unsung hero: Cordy Glenn
Most exciting Game of the Year: Carolina, Week 2
Most disappointing Game of the Year: Atlanta, Week 12
Best overall Game of the Year: Jets, Week 10
Worst overall Game of the Year: Tampa, Week 13
Best play: EJ to Stevie for the game-winning TD vs. Carolina, Week 2
Honorable mention: Mario’s strip sack to secure the first win against Miami
Worst play: No-brainer. Jeff Tuel’s 99-yard pick-6 in the endzone vs. KC, Week 9
Honorable mention: Stevie’s fumble on the would-be game winning drive vs. Atlanta, week 12
Best moment: EJ kneeling down at The Ralph and crying at the end of the Carolina game
Worst moment: Matt Bryant’s FG sailing through the uprights to end the Atlanta game… symbolizing another year without playoffs (even though not technically, we all knew)
Defining moment of 2013 season: With the Bills at 2-2 and leading the Browns in the 1st half on the road on TNF, EJ runs for the first down, and instead of going out of bounds, tries to get extra yards and gets hit in the knee by TJ Ward. Misses the rest of the game (loss) plus the next 4 games (3 losses) with sprained LCL, and comes back rusty in Week 9 against the Steelers (loss).
Excellent job! Would not disagree with any of it.
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Yes, tis the season for the "rose colored glasses" vs. "hard bitten realist" nonsense to begin.
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Thanks for doing this Bill. One of the few posts worth reading on a weekly basis.
That said, I think you are off base on EJ vs. Thad. Lewis played descent enough yesterday, but clearly not good enough to win. As others have pointed out, I do not see his indecision in the pocket or occasional lapses in ball security getting much better. His arm is just OK. I think he has shown enough to be a decent backup option. To my eyes, he has done nothing Manuel has not been able to to do, and lacks Manuel's poise, arm strength, and presence. I am frankly not sure how anyone can watch Lewis's performance and think he is a better option, even now. The loss was clearly on the special teams and run defense, not the QB, but there were certainly a number of plays Lewis failed to make, especially in the first half.
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If you cannot see a vast difference in the Bills defense from the past several years you are simply either not paying attention or do not want to see the improvement. It has been a massive turnaround in one year. There have been significant improvements in the play of key players (Mario, Kyle, Dareus, McKelvin to name a few), outstanding secondary play when there key players have been he healthy, and some significant additions who have contributed greatly including Hughes and Lawson. By the way, all this with a rookie middle linebacker. Pettine and staff get credit for this. The run defense needs improvement clearly. Whether this is scheme, players, or a combination needs to be addressed but I am confident they will.
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You should make your avatar a homer simpson pic with a Bills jersey on.
Pointing out that players have something to do with it does not make one a homer any more than a knee jerk reaction makes you rational. I am sure the Bills will fully evaluate all aspects of the team, including special teams. What we see on the surface may not be the entire picture. Special Teams needs to get better without question. I would point out that multiple Bills had opportunities to tackle Blount on those big returns yesterday and failed to do so. This speaks to poor play not scheme. The reason for the poor play is the issue. Better players or better coaching?
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Yeah, realized this after I posted. Rotoworld had Dareus as a FA after the 2014 season. Maybe time to lock him up now? Especially with him being in contention for the pro bowl.
The Bills have an option to exercise for a fifth year which they need to decide on this spring. I would think it is highly unlikely they would not take the option.
I remember that he turned down the Bills first contract offer earlier in the year. It was right before he got hurt.
He did. Typical Parker BS. Carrington will likely regret that decision. I doubt the Bills will offer much, if anything, now that they have locked up that spot with Branch. Perhaps they make him an offer as depth but I suspect they will move on.
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Last night, during Sunday Night Football, I listened to Chris Collinsworth go on and on, ad nauseum, about what a genius Chip Kelly is and how prolific the Eagles offense is. Then, I thought about all of the posters on this board who are calling for Hackett's head. So, I thought I would take a general look at the two and their circumstances this year:
1) Kelly inherited an offensive team that finished 5th or better in 3 of the last four years. Hackett inherited a team that finished 15th or worse in 3 of the last four years.
2) Kelly's quarterbacks this year were Michael Vick (no matter what you think of him - he can still make plays) and Nick Foles - who is a third year player that started 7 games prior to this season. Hackett's quarterbacks were Manuel, Tuel, and Lewis - with a grand total of one start between them prior to this year.
3) In regard to defenses, Yards per Play (Yds/P) tends to be a pretty good guage of those defenses that are tough to move the ball against consistently. In regard to the Eagles, the Yds/P ranking of their opponents (from lowest to highest) were 4, 8, 8, 17, 18, 20, 23, 25, 26, 27, 28, 28, 30, 31, 32. The defensive Yds/P ranking of the Bills opponents were 3, 5, 7, 9, 9, 10, 11, 11, 12, 14, 16, 16, 17, 20, 22, 29.
4) 6 of the Eagles 15 opponents were top 20 or better (with only 3 in the top 15) while 13 of the Bills 15 opponents were top 20 or better (with 10 in the top 15). Looking at just the top ten defenses, the Eagles faced 3 and the Bills faced 6. Against teams with a top 10 Yds/P ranking, the Eagles averaged 297 ypg and 25 ppg, while the Bills averaged 349 ypg and 25.3 ppg against defenses with a top 10 Yds/P ranking.
I am not saying Hackett is better, the same, or worse than Kelly. Kelly may be the second coming of Don Coryell and Hackett may be out of the NFL in two years - or vice versa. My point? Actually, I have several:
1) Determining the success or failure of a coach requires more than a superficial look at their product.
2) There isn't anyone on this board that can say either coach would have been better or worse than the other if they switched circumstances
3) 15 games as a coach in the NFL is merely a snapshot. I need a greater body of work before I am willing to label someone a genius...or a failure
Thank you for the excellent rational analyis. Often lacking around here. In all of that, the biggest difference is the QB. Despite having a seasoned veteran in Vick to start the season, the offense did not really start to click until Foles came in and began to light it up. People need to remember that as you point out Foles is a veteran, with some starting experience. His starts prior to this year have been mediocre to promising, but his experience is the big difference to Buffalo's situation. We have not seen near what this offense is capable of. Had Manuel been able to stay on the field I firmly believe the Bills offense would be much better than what we are seeing so far, and it has been very decent at times. Patience is what is required here, not a new OC or QB.
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"People are dumb, panicky animals and you know it."
K to J, Men in Black
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I'd trade down to draft Austin Sefarian-Jenkins, if you stay or go up Mike Evans is what this team has needed for the longest time. Understand the people who wanna go OL in the draft but we just need a LG and some better depth. Looking at the FA list of offensive linemen there is a lot of quality ones available De La Puente, Albert, Boothe (depth) etc.
The Bills need a LG, but also need a quality right tackle. I would not be hurt by taking a RT number 1. Would love to have a big WR threat as well, but if Evans is gone, trade down may be best bet.
I can't for the life of me understand the obsession by some with a TE when it's pretty much obvious that the O line needs at least two new starters. Chandler is a perfectly fine, middle of the pack TE and Gragg I believe is going to be a good one. Sure, if the next Gronk or Gonzalez would be available, then okay. But the problem with the TE position AND with WR has more to do with the QB. Even on that slant reception by Gragg last Sunday -- about as easy a pass as Manuel could have hoped for -- he threw behind him. And ILB is now a top priority? More important than RT, RG, LG? Seriously?
Chandler will likely be gone after this year so the Bills will need to find a top quality tight end. Probably not number 1 though.
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Are you 10?
Probably not, but he was doing a fairly accurate representation of your lament. About the same level of reasoning anyway.
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For The Record:
The Jacksonville Jaguars threw the game because they knew they were already out of the playoffs and a Win today would have jeopardized their draft spot.
I hope you are kidding. I would hate to think the alternative.
Yeah, but it was Jacksonville.
If this offense couldn't beat Dwayne Gratz and bunch of guys cut from other teams, then it's panic time.
At least it's something, though.
It was a no win situation with people of your mindset obviously.
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I believe this happened earlier t his week. They rested him yesterday but Marrone said he expects him to play.
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if Peyton Manning was the QB of the Bills, we would be in the playoffs.
you are spinning your wheels (COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME) until you get a legit Franchise QB.......
Too bad Peyton Manning is not in the draft next year, nor anyone else even remotely his caliber. Who is the mythical "franchise QB" in next year's draft? All look like big questions to me.
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The Buffalo Bills got blown out today by a very, very good playoff team with a top QB!
I'm sure that by next week the eternal optimism will be flowing around this forum like Niagara falls. The Bills are the #4 team in the NFL in rushing, so the run game must be great! The QB is a rookie, as is the OC and HC. Its only one game.
I can only wonder if Russ Brandon ever thinks he made the wrong choice and should have hired the Bears ex HC who went 10-6 in his last year, Lovie Smith. Naa, would have cost to much, and you know who needed a few extra million.
Lovie Smith would cost too much? Really - is that why no team hired him? The old faithful "ralph is cheap" argument. Way to go.
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I saw that play. I am not sure if it was the same CB, but it was the same kind of hit that put EJ out. He dove right at his knee. I am not feeling sorry for the Pats, but while the NFL is supposedly worrying over player safety, they should address these kinds of cheap shots.
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Even if glennon is the better qb absolutely nothing about that looks smart
Agree. He is still a jerk.
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Choice was cut to make room for Moeaki. Nothing more to it.
No. There must be a conspiracy. It must be Ralph twirrling his mustach again.
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for the get another CB crowd here i have one question… where are we going to play this player? do you want to bench mclovin or gilmore? I'm all for investing a later round draft pick on one but investing free agent money or a high draft pick just doesn't make sense to me. there was some early injuries. mclovin is playing well and I highly doubt the bills are ready to give up on gilmore 1.5 seasons into his career that has been cut short due to injury.
i think guard -TE-ILB and even another RB are higher than another corner and yeah i said RB fred is gonna be 32 going on 33 next year.
Exactly. If the Bills bring in any CBs it will be to upgrade depth, which can always be better. Perhaps they draft a CB in RDs 3 - 5 as well. I would not expect a big FA signing at CB. OL/TE/LB are the primary needs.

Top flight qb...luck
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None of whom were pro bowlers if the did not play with Kelly.