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Even if glennon is the better qb absolutely nothing about that looks smart
Agree. He is still a jerk.
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Choice was cut to make room for Moeaki. Nothing more to it.
No. There must be a conspiracy. It must be Ralph twirrling his mustach again.
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for the get another CB crowd here i have one question… where are we going to play this player? do you want to bench mclovin or gilmore? I'm all for investing a later round draft pick on one but investing free agent money or a high draft pick just doesn't make sense to me. there was some early injuries. mclovin is playing well and I highly doubt the bills are ready to give up on gilmore 1.5 seasons into his career that has been cut short due to injury.
i think guard -TE-ILB and even another RB are higher than another corner and yeah i said RB fred is gonna be 32 going on 33 next year.
Exactly. If the Bills bring in any CBs it will be to upgrade depth, which can always be better. Perhaps they draft a CB in RDs 3 - 5 as well. I would not expect a big FA signing at CB. OL/TE/LB are the primary needs.
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I live in La. The raiders basically never left. Raider nation is strong in La. Your assumption is dead wrong. Just so you know.
If you're a talker like me, then you will know this. Oh and the hats and stuff give it away too.
I do not know about LA, but I live in Maryland and he is dead right about Baltimore. The day the Colts left is the day people in Baltimore stopped being fans of the team going forward. It was actually worse that they kept the name and pretended they could carry the Colts legacy to Indianapolis. It would be the same in Buffalo I believe.
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If (hopefully not when) the Bills leave Buffalo, for Toronto or any other city, whether they keep the name or not I am done. The Buffalo Bills are part and parcel of the culture of the area, and those who grew up there and grew up with the Bills being part of that fabric will probably feel as I do. Moving the team would rip the heart out of Buffalo. I am not an NFL fan - I am a Buffalo Bills fan, so I doubt I would spend much time, if any, watching the NFL. I simply would not care, and more than that, would be too pissed to do so.
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It always bewilders me that the "New" Soldier Field seats 61,500 at capacity while Buffalo has to sell 73K tickets. I realize the avg. ticket price in Chicago is more but it's a metro area of over 9 million people! Where's the fairness in blackout rules concerning this. I guess that's why the owners agreed to the 85% rule that Buffalo decided not to use. That's the only reason Tampa is getting all their games on local TV and probably a few others.
Perhaps not fair, but look at it this way. If you lived in Chicago, you would likely not be able to afford to see many or perhaps any games live, as there is high demand for very expensive seats. At least in Buffalo you can buy a ticket and go to the game. In Chicago (as in Washington, Baltimore, NE, Dallas, etc) the average fan is priced out of the stadium. Even with the smaller capacity, I would venture to guess that Chicago's average revenue per home game is significantly more than Buffalo's, even double or triple. Buffalo needs the ticket revenue associated with the larger capacity to survive.
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Teasers from Joe B:
The two key blocks on C.J. Spiller's 77-yd run? RG Kraig Urbik and WR Stevie Johnson. The latter sealed Samuel and it unleashed 28.
We should cut Stevie. He ate a taco.
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Implying that Poland could have avoided a war with Germany if they had allied with them is simply wrong. I suggest reading Ernest May's STRANGE VICTORY, Mark Mazower's HITLER'S EMPIRE, and Adam Tooze's WAGES OF DESTRUCTION. All along, Hitler firmly intended to swallow up Poland, and he was also intent on war. Poland and the east were the basis of lebensraum. Poland had no way out. The decision had been made years before.
You are correct. See also The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, William Shirer. I am still not sure what this has to do with a debate about EJ Manuel.
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It seems like that puts you in another good position to trade down and collect more picks while getting the guy you want at either of those positions, no? Vernon Davis was a top-10 pick, though, just to cite an outlier.
You don't know that you've chosen the right QB until he's been given time to learn the position in the NFL. A precious few guys are NFL ready off the bat. Some have great success to start based on certain natural gifts and a good surrounding cast -- then have a tougher time when they are game-planned for. Others sit for a year or two. By the way, Colin K seems to fall into both of the last two categories -- he has been up and down this season.
This is about where EJ fans start feeling like you're insulting Manuel. You can't possibly evaluate his ceiling at this point, can you? If so, how?
Or you could think of it as a waste of a draft pick unless a generational talent is there at your pick.
This team's needs are many, and while Manuel put his team in a position to win yesterday, the knives come out after every loss.
In reference to your other stat, that 30% chance has led to some of the best QBs we've ever seen, so I just am not sure of the meaning of the statistic. How good are the chances for top 5?
This is all true. It astounds that what we have seen from Manuel thus far would cause anyone to conclude that he is a failed pick, or said another way, will not be an outstanding QB in this league. There is simply no evidence to suggest either after 8 NFL starts. In fact, I have seen nothing so far that would suggest he is anything other than promised - a prospect with great physical tools who will need time to develop his skills at the NFL level. I think his leadership skills and his intelligence for the game are far better than the so called pundits predicted, though exactly what the Bills stated they liked about him.
As for drafting another QB, this is beyond silly. Without a total tank by Manuel the balance of the year, there is nothing to suggest they should not continue his development. Selecting yet another rookie, and pitting him against Manuel in training camp, will do nothing but hamper his development, and little to suggest the next guy will be better. Am I missing something or did Andrew Luck just become draft eligible again next year? I see no "generational talents" there. On the contrary, Manuel has given ample reason thus far to suggest his chances are considerable better than "30%".
You cannot develop two QB's simultaneously. So, unless they decide he cannot get better, the thing to do is stay the course. This is exactly what is going to happen, so people should get used to the idea.
By the way, if I were the Jets, I would be drafting again. There is a case where a QB is living up to exactly his billing, and there is little reason to suspect he is getting or will get better. Big difference. The next coaching staff and GM in NY will make that call, and that would be the time.
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Gilmore has been largely mediocre since coming back this season. People seem to forget how well he played last year. I am not sure what his problem is but it is a bit early to write him off.
The fumbles are inexcusable. Nothing else to say about that. I cannot even begin to understand how that can happen - twice.
Glen was good - Pears was awful. Serious upgrade at RT is needed. Upgrade at LG is obviously needed as well.
The penalties on Atlanta's last drive were simply extensions of a very poorly called game. How does the official standing right there looking at it miss the call on EJ's touchdown? Too many other examples to enumerate. Those last two calls though were killers.
The criticism of Manuel here this morning is curious. He had them in position to win. I think coaching is holding him back at this point. The play calling was ridiculous at times. He seems overly cautious, but when the game was on the line he made plays. Is that him or play calling/coaching? In any case, I guess I am not sure what people expected out of a raw rookie this year. He is doing fine and was not the problem yesterday - not even close.
TJ Graham is useless.
Kiko had a bad game - gonna happen sometimes. The inability stop the run was the downfall of the defense today. He has a big part in that, but was not alone obviously. I am concerned that Pettine cannot fix this with the group of players he has to work with.
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That's opinion based, just as me saying that if he was not impeded, forced to go the 2 feet to the right, he could have shaken off any attempted tackle with speed due to straight lining. He would have scored.
The TD award is a moot point. A coach of a team, any team, has the responsibility to be a role model for the young fans watching. Cheating, then lying about it is not a positive environment for teaching character building to the young, and regardless as to what many say, athletic programs such as the NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL have a responsibility to that end given their position to influence the youth.
Fine him $100,000 and remove him from the sideline for the remainder of the season. A strong message is what is needed, it will show the young watching that behavior such as this is not tolerated.
I agree. Totally unacceptable behavior by Tomlin. I do not think there is any way it can be argued as unintentional. What a classless tool. They should make an example of him, but my guess nothing much, if anything, will be done.
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So, go to the game! Bring your friends. Be loud. Be proud. Unless you just can't get accross the border, I don't understand why the "best fans in the NFL" don't show up and REPRESENT?! It is like a one hour drive, right?
I am sure there are many reasons why more Bills fans do not make the trek - distance, cost, environment, whatever. Clearly it cannot be argued at this point that the Toronto game feels like a home game to anyone. That will all change with success.
What I find really interesting this year is that, unlike past years, there are no Bills players publicly complaining about having to play in Toronto. People may recall that last year several players, including so called team leaders, came out publicly and complained bitterly about having to play a home game in Toronto. The Bills got blown out. Seattle was no doubt a better team, but the Bills did not even show up to play. The lack of any such whining and complaining is further evidence that this coaching staff has the players attention and respect. I do not expect to hear a peep out of anyone. All business - a very good sign for Sunday.
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This is one piece of misinformation that was continually spread on TSW last year. CJ is signed through the 2014 season and has an option year in 2015.
It is a player option, so 2014 is his last year in Buffalo without an extension, in all likelihood. Obviously anything can happen. Coming off a bad year, if I were Spiller, I would sit tight in 2014 and look to hit it big in 2015.
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So what happens between the AFC Championship and the Super Bowl that leaves us stuck at 12-7 for the season?
The total collapse of the Patriots leaves the Bills as Division Champs so they do not have to play the wild card game.
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It's a mistake to drink K-9's Kool Aid. Both in general, and in this instance.
I'll grant that thus far, Nassib does not look like a guy who should have been taken in the first few rounds. There's a very good chance he'll never be a long-term starter; or at best will be a failed starter.
Where K-9 takes his big, big leap is to attempt to write off all the credibility of a highly respected draft analyst based on one seemingly bad prediction. He hasn't bothered to wait until, say, year two or three of Nassib's career to see how he will really do. Nor is there any indication he's looked into how far along in the QB evaluation process Cosell may have been before making his pro-Nassib statements. A lot of draft analysts change their opinions as they get deeper into breaking down film.
In the end, let's say that Nassib has the kind of career many expect him to have. And let's say that Cosell hadn't changed his pro-Nassib opinion after having broken down more film. If both those things prove true; then Cosell will have messed up. Just as Bill Walsh messed up when he recommended Trent Edwards.
I don't think you can write off a draft analyst's credibility based on one bad prediction. You have to look at the pattern: is he right more often than he is wrong? K-9 has not taken the time to do that with Cosell; and therefore is not in a position to make definitive statements about his credibility.
I think he hurts his credibility by making ridiculous statements like the one that started this thread.
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http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=1&statisticPositionCategory=QUARTERBACK
YTD stats at the link above. I think to say that Glennon has looked the best and "its not even close" is a bit of an overstatement to say the least. The stats are very close. EJ has a higher Yds/attempt, Glennon has many more throws, thus more yards, more TDs; slightly higher completion %; same interceptions and sacks. The ratings are comparable at least. EJ is 3 and 3 in games he started and finished; Glennon is 2 and 5. Glennon has started 7 games in a row, while EJ had a break in his season and had to restart. I would say any reasonable person would say the jury is still out on the question.
That said, Glennon has looked better than I expected. In the limited amount I saw of him in college I thought he looked stiff and un-athletic, and bad when flushed out of the pocket. Bledsoe-esque is the term that comes to mind. I am surprised at how good he has looked, but that is hardly cause for declaring him the best rookie in the class. People were ready to bestow that on Geno Smith after the first Bills game if I recall. It seems Cosel is gushing to defend his own pre-draft evaluations.
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I'd take Rex Ryan as a headcoach any day!
I am really not sure why. His record is mediocre and his teams are a train wreck of controversy and inconsistency year after year. He may have lost weight but his ego is still 300 pounds. Many personnel moves have been iffy at best. Would I have taken him over Chan, or Jauron - probably. I like where we are at now much better than the sexy Rexy show.
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I think you undersell Nelson a bit, but maybe I am one of the Nelson homers.
If you put Nelson with Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, he catches like 10 balls a game. He's a very solid possession receiver.
I am not so sure about that, but we can agree to disagree. I was a fan when when he was here.
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Am I the only one who found Marrone's comments odd? I've never heard a coach say something like that.
Odd, yes, in the sense I have not heard that before either. Oddly refreshing though. I suspect had it not been such a resounding win, he would not have made an off the cuff jovial remark like that to the press.
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Nelson was always overrated by the fans in Buffalo. He is a great guy, very good hands, but he was never better than a 4th or 5th wideout and fared much better when they could play him as a 4th wideout/extra tight end, getting mismatches with LBs and dime backs.. I am glad he has a job and is contributing, but I would not bet on him making the Jets roster next year. He was a stop gap due to injury problems and the fact that the Jets went into the year weak at the position to begin with. This is something they will likely address next year.
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Where's the quote about how fun Dave and Busters was though?
Another great quote from Colon:
“If it was motivation for them then it is, but if a team had done that to me it wouldn’t motivate me. If they feel that was motivation for them, fine, but we beat ourselves today, they didn’t beat us.’’
I have not heard anyone from the Bills say that was motivation. I guess it must have been someone else on the interior of the Jets line getting their butt handed to him all day long by Williams and Dareus.
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While the O line still can't run block very well, they certainly pass blocked well against a very good Jets D line.
The fact that the Bills are still 4th in the league in rushing would indicate they can run block fairly well. The Jets were leading the league in rushing defense, and focused heavily on it yesterday believing Manuel could not beat them with the pass. They were wrong.
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From the article: The subject of the Bills scheduling disadvantage came up over the summer, but the team didn't formally contact the league about it until this week. Bills president Russ Brandon called the schedule 'disappointing.'
So why did the Bills wait to bring this up until now?
It would have been too late then anyway. Now is the time, for next year.
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First try fielding a legitimate team in over a decade and than we can decide if the blackouts are a penalty or a blessing. It's time to wake up Ralph or maybe reboot the Bills el presidente, Russ Castro.
Not sure what the point of this particular rant is. Something about a joke ..?
Gronkowski out for the year with ACL and MCL injuries
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I saw that play. I am not sure if it was the same CB, but it was the same kind of hit that put EJ out. He dove right at his knee. I am not feeling sorry for the Pats, but while the NFL is supposedly worrying over player safety, they should address these kinds of cheap shots.